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Old June 29th, 2009, 12:22 AM   #221
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Congrats Madrid on yet another major infrastructure project!!

Being an infrastructure fan in Madrid is like a chocolate lover working for Hershey!!

Big freeways, big airport, huge metro, nice commuter rail, and a high speed rail hub. Madrid has it all!!
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Old June 29th, 2009, 12:35 AM   #222
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Congrats Madrid on yet another major infrastructure project!!

Being an infrastructure fan in Madrid is like a chocolate lover working for Hershey!!

Big freeways, big airport, huge metro, nice commuter rail, and a high speed rail hub. Madrid has it all!!
hahaha...i love chocolate....
yeah...being an nfraestructure fan in madrid or barcelona or in the last years in spain has been very pleasant....i hope that with the economical crisis ost those big projects wont be put off.....
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Old June 29th, 2009, 09:07 AM   #223
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Yes, but what's this of biggest cavern in the world? Lol jk.

Spastik, major props for the rundown on the station. INCREDIBLE!

If only Puerto Rico would see the potential like you (la madre patria) have.
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Old June 29th, 2009, 11:02 PM   #224
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QUE BUENAS FOTOS Y QUE SORPRENDENTE SISTEMA EL DEL SUBURBANO SE ME HIZO MUY INTERESANTE YA QUE LOS TIEMPOS ESTAN SINCRONISADOS Y CREO QUE NO HAY DEMORAS

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Old June 29th, 2009, 11:49 PM   #225
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Here you have other map of the station, just under the center of Madrid!!
(Thanks to the blog "es por madrid" , in www.espormadrid.es )




Bigger:

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7355/mapasol.jpg
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Old June 30th, 2009, 12:47 AM   #226
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Transrapid in Madrid... LOL


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Old June 30th, 2009, 07:26 AM   #227
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The ballastless tracks in this new station were just like tram tracks on the ground.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 07:30 AM   #228
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Is there a performance difference between ballastless tracks and regular tracks?
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Old June 30th, 2009, 06:41 PM   #229
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Congrats Madrid on yet another major infrastructure project!!

Being an infrastructure fan in Madrid is like a chocolate lover working for Hershey!!

Big freeways, big airport, huge metro, nice commuter rail, and a high speed rail hub. Madrid has it all!!


We only need few skyscraper more (that with OPCH are comming) to be full pleased

Most of my friends from abroad got a quite good impresion specially about our subway and commuter rail system.
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Old June 30th, 2009, 11:45 PM   #230
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Finally done. The station looks good, and a redesign of the Sol hub really makes sense.

I'm not a fan of the new entrance, though. It seems to destroy the unique design of Placa del Sol.
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Old July 1st, 2009, 01:12 PM   #231
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very nice
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Old July 1st, 2009, 01:54 PM   #232
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The station looks great, but the entrance it´s not my cup of tea. It doesn´t fix with Puerta del Sol.
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Old July 1st, 2009, 02:02 PM   #233
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Is there a performance difference between ballastless tracks and regular tracks?
I don't think ballastless is a correct definition as there are ballasts under the concrete; probably this way of treating the tracks is to reduce vibrations and noise
Another reason could be to facilitate evacuation in tunnel: there is not a pedestrian emergency platform, but the train 'tracks' are easily viable in case of emergency

Anyway that's a great project

..erm, about the biggest cavern station in the world: in Milan in 1997 opened two bigger 'cavern' train stations (interely digged undergrond, not cut'n'cover), Repubblica and Porta Venezia on the Passante Ferroviario (underground bypass for S-lines)




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Old July 1st, 2009, 04:19 PM   #234
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Porta Venezia in Milan and Sol in Madrid seem quite similar, May be Sol looks more elegant and colorful.
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Old July 1st, 2009, 04:32 PM   #235
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Yep, in Sol they used a 'hanged' mezzanine as in Porta Venezia
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 06:27 PM   #236
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What are dimensions? I'm sure there tones of bigger 'caverns', especially with military facilities.
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 07:38 PM   #237
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Both Porta Venezia and Repubblica are 250m long and have a diameter of 30m

Here P.ta Venezia U/C (with the Cellular-Arch technique)





Anyway we are a bit OT (and it is my fault I'm afraid)
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 10:45 AM   #238
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What are dimensions? I'm sure there tones of bigger 'caverns', especially with military facilities.
Yes, of course. They say it's the biggest of it's kind dedicated to public services.
Anyway, about the size of the cavern, I found the following information: 207 meters long, 20 meters wide y 15 meters high (http://www.transport.cat/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9429). It has six leves and it goes down to a depth of 28 meters. The access hall has an area of 7500 square meters.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 11:01 AM   #239
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It is a spectacular infrastructure: I even like the way they're redesignin' the square

I have a question: what are they going to do with the old tunnel?
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 11:09 AM   #240
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Ok, stupid me! I didn't spend much attention to this



Old tunnel will continue to work: in new one there will be new Cercanias lines
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