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Old September 24th, 2011, 08:01 AM   #461
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The Cercanias (commuter rail) line C-1 has opened to the airport, connecting to Atocha in 25 minutes.

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new Cercanias map:

source: http://ecomovilidad.net/madrid/el-ae...n-de-cercanias

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Old March 21st, 2012, 10:20 PM   #462
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ETCS Level 1 goes live in Madrid

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SPAIN: The Ministry of Development announced on March 1 that ETCS Level 1 signalling had been brought into use on RENFE suburban route C4 in Madrid, running from Parla in the south via Atocha, Sol and Chamartín to Colmenar Viejo north of the capital. According to the ministry, this is the first application of ETCS on a suburban network in Europe.

Work to equip 190 km of track, including the branch to Alcobendas-San Sebastián de los Reyes, has been undertaken by the ministry at a cost of over €30m. RENFE has spent €23m to install onboard equipment on 112 Civia EMUs.

The number of trains operating under ETCS on route C4 is to be increased gradually as staff training is completed. The adoption of Level 2 is also planned for the Madrid suburban network with the aim of increasing capacity.
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Old March 28th, 2012, 05:55 PM   #463
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Redbull organized a BMX competition last weekend in Chamartin station.

That station have free platforms (it was "recently" renovated and there are plans to expand some lines to there). I think it's a great idea for take advantage of unused infraestructures.

This was the result:

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Old October 15th, 2012, 12:39 AM   #464
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I've just come back from a very enjoyable week in Madrid and my wife and I travelled on the Metro in the central area - lines 1,2 and 5. I was really impressed by the extent, simplicity and cleanliness of the system and the new trains (the last time I travelled on the metro was back in 1986 when the trains on Line 1 had partially open windows).

I have some questions regarding the power supply. I noticed on Line 2 that the trains used overhead power from a fixed rail just under the tunnel roof and with a very low pantograph.

Is that system used throughout the metro and has it been in use since the system opened?

I'm asking because we have a third rail system on our local underground and might, in the future, need to convert it to overhead despite the very limited clearances.
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Old October 15th, 2012, 05:36 AM   #465
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Nice to hear that you enjoyed your trip as people is very unhappy these days with Metro because they are closing acceses in stations and lowering frequencies

I don't know since when is that system used but I know that it's a patent of the Madrid's Metro. Some years ago Metro used to have traditional catenary everywhere.

It is compatible with catenary trains (I think without modifications) in fact the "ceiling rail" or "rigid catenary" is used in tunnels and underground stations but traditional catenary is used otherwise.

AFAIK it's more cheap and effective than traditional catenary in every sense... there is an exception... it needs a lot of support points... that's not a problem underground where you can attach it to the ceiling but it's far more expensive outdoors.

P.D: Old system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ma...-_20060910.jpg / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ma...-_Estrella.JPG
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Old October 15th, 2012, 11:08 AM   #466
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...people is very unhappy these days with Metro because they are closing acceses in stations and lowering frequencies ...
Why is that? Because of bad economy in Spain?
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Old October 15th, 2012, 11:14 AM   #467
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Why is that? Because of bad economy in Spain?
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Old October 15th, 2012, 09:50 PM   #468
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Nice to hear that you enjoyed your trip as people is very unhappy these days with Metro because they are closing acceses in stations and lowering frequencies

I don't know since when is that system used but I know that it's a patent of the Madrid's Metro. Some years ago Metro used to have traditional catenary everywhere.

It is compatible with catenary trains (I think without modifications) in fact the "ceiling rail" or "rigid catenary" is used in tunnels and underground stations but traditional catenary is used otherwise.

AFAIK it's more cheap and effective than traditional catenary in every sense... there is an exception... it needs a lot of support points... that's not a problem underground where you can attach it to the ceiling but it's far more expensive outdoors.

P.D: Old system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ma...-_20060910.jpg / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ma...-_Estrella.JPG
New system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:L%...adrid_(13).jpg
Thanks for your reply OriK. I did notice that the trains seemed less frequent than you would expect for a metro but it didn't cause any real inconvenience for us.

I could see this sort of overhead line system becoming the successor to third rail in quite a few underground systems.
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Old October 15th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #469
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Why is that? Because of bad economy in Spain?
A mixture of situations:

There has been a drop of passengers due to unemployment (12% less passengers than in 2008) but the network was "recently" extended leading to higher costs not followed by higher revenue. They increased the fares in an attemp to compensate this but it only provoked even less passengers...

Recently they closed some accesses to stations which have multiple accesses (in order to save energy and maintenance costs) and retired 15% of services.


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Old October 16th, 2012, 10:54 PM   #470
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Why is the subway going on the left side?? What's the reason? I was so perplexed the first time I was there. It's so confusing.
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haha yes indeed. :P Most of my trips are in the suburban trains and it gets confusing... sometimes you don't know where your train is going to appear... but it isn't a big deal if you are not used to ride trains in other networks.

Metro de Madrid was founded in 1919, they chose to run the trains at the left side (maybe randomly or maybe because it was the offcial side by then ) because before 1930 there was no law in Spain indicating that the vehicles had to circulate at the right side... as the subway is an isolated network and it would be too expensive to change it they made an exception and allowed it to continue circulating at the left... and that exception is still valid nowadays.

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Madrid metro was built following the London Underground model, that's why trains run on the left side, I read somewhere that the company or the engineers that built it were actually British.
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I suppose being British it never occured to me that there was anything unusual about the trains being on the left hand side as all our trains and road vehicles travel on the left.

If you use the London Underground -certainly the deep level tube trains, you are not aware which side of the track you are on as most stations are single track tunnels.

Obviously, a lot of the Madrid system must have been constructed on the cut and cover system as all the stations that we used were double track and at quite shallow depth - some without escalators. That form of construction always works best in cities with wide, straight boulevards.
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That would explain why Madrid has a lot of English place names like Torre Windsor, same as London with Spanish places names such as Trafalgar Square.
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Trafalgar Square is named after the Battle of Trafalgar.
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Madrid metro was built following the London Underground model, that's why trains run on the left side, I read somewhere that the company or the engineers that built it were actually British.
That´s not true. At the begining of the century cars and horses were driven on the left side. When the metro was opened in 1919 it followed the same way as the trams and cars. But in the 20´s the city hall decided by law to change all the sides of transports in the surface, but not underground´s ones. That´s why, our Metro runs on the left side, and we drive our cars on our right side ;-)
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Old October 18th, 2012, 12:39 AM   #477
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I truly think Madrid metro is one of the best underground systems in the whole world!
I agree, it's definitely at the top. So easy to get around Madrid with it. My two other favorites are Guangzhou and Paris.
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That´s not true. At the begining of the century cars and horses were driven on the left side. When the metro was opened in 1919 it followed the same way as the trams and cars. But in the 20´s the city hall decided by law to change all the sides of transports in the surface, but not underground´s ones. That´s why, our Metro runs on the left side, and we drive our cars on our right side ;-)
Ups, maybe you're right, I remember that I read the London theory somewhere but it was a long time ago...
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Ups, maybe you're right, I remember that I read the London theory somewhere but it was a long time ago...
You must have been thinking of the Barcelona metro, from which the term "Spanish solution" for platform layout is derived, though the layout was used in several English-speaking cities, including London and Boston, before making its way to Catalonia.
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Trafalgar Square is named after the Battle of Trafalgar.
Which took place in front of the coast of Southern Spain, in Cape Trafalgar, between Gibraltar and Cadiz.
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