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Old March 15th, 2010, 11:07 PM   #241
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I'm glad Rotherhithe and Wapping are being kept.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 01:08 AM   #242
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Pics of the new depot at New Cross for the ELL.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 03:14 PM   #243
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I noticed in the videos the 378s have provisions in the roof for pantographs to be installed at a later date if required.
All new mainlin electric multiple units in the UK have pantograph recesses, whether or not they are needed, since the end of the '90s
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Old March 17th, 2010, 10:20 PM   #244
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Map: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/passen...onnections.pdf
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Old March 18th, 2010, 08:43 PM   #245
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All new mainlin electric multiple units in the UK have pantograph recesses, whether or not they are needed, since the end of the '90s
Thats a pretty broad statement that isn't quite right. The reason the recesses are there is simply because the train shells are all standard designs. So if they are used only on 3rd rail systems they are left blank.
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Old March 19th, 2010, 01:00 AM   #246
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Pics of the brand new Hoxton, Haggerston, Dalston Junction and Shoreditch High Street stations, as well as the refurbished Shadwell. All for the soon to open East London line extension.
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Old March 19th, 2010, 03:36 AM   #247
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I'm surprised they didn't take a few of the renovations even further... but overall, looking quite promising.

Seeing so many spurs and line branches, what is the frequency of the trains?

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Old March 19th, 2010, 03:29 PM   #248
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I'm surprised they didn't take a few of the renovations even further... but overall, looking quite promising.

Seeing so many spurs and line branches, what is the frequency of the trains?
The rather odd thing is the map inside the train doesn't appear to show the East London line. Ie where these trains will be running.

Instead it shows the existing London Overground Network. Then at Shadwell there is the line map showing all the stations South of there, inlcuidng those planned. This of course makes sense, but you would hope before the line opens they will cover up the branches and stations that will open later.

But you are right, it does look very complex with all the branches (of the ELL), wonder what effect this will have in the future when it comes to reliability of the new network?
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Old March 20th, 2010, 01:18 AM   #249
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Dalston - Surrey Quays: 16tph (train every 3 3/4 minutes)
New Cross Gate - Sydenham: 8tph (train every 7 1/2 minutes)
Branches: 4tph (train every 15 minutes)
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Old March 21st, 2010, 05:15 AM   #250
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That's actually not too bad.
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Old March 21st, 2010, 12:04 PM   #251
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I'm surprised they didn't take a few of the renovations even further... but overall, looking quite promising.
I think they wanted to retain many historical features such as original brickwork as the East London line is very old. The system itself of course is very modern and looks fantastic. It's going to be a great addition to London's transport infrastructure.
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Old March 28th, 2010, 02:36 AM   #252
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Went on the 378s for the first time the other day. They definately feel very different from both tube trains and traditional NR trains. Does anybody know how many 313s are still to be replaced?
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I'm curious to know, has any actual tunnel boring started yet on Crossrail?
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Old March 29th, 2010, 03:40 AM   #254
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I'm curious to know, has any actual tunnel boring started yet on Crossrail?
I think some cut-and-cover sections have be dug but I don't think any bored sections have. Read this thread for better updates.
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Old March 31st, 2010, 11:24 PM   #255
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Went on the 378s for the first time the other day. They definately feel very different from both tube trains and traditional NR trains. Does anybody know how many 313s are still to be replaced?
I went on a 378 last year from Stratford to West Hampstead. I didn't like the fact that you can't look out the window, and the ride is quite firm. Still I look forward to the return of the service. Being able to get to Dalston without the long slow crawl from London Bridge on the 149 bus will be good.
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Old April 1st, 2010, 01:50 AM   #256
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I went on a 378 last year from Stratford to West Hampstead. I didn't like the fact that you can't look out the window, and the ride is quite firm. Still I look forward to the return of the service. Being able to get to Dalston without the long slow crawl from London Bridge on the 149 bus will be good.
The seats are too hard but I think the ride quality is good.
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Old April 7th, 2010, 04:17 PM   #257
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Overground enhancements

Related to that subject, I refer to the later link (The International Railway Journal, May 2010):

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/sb/irj0410/#/26
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Old April 8th, 2010, 02:54 AM   #258
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4-car 378s testing at New Cross Gate. New Cross Gate - Dalston services are set to allow passengers from the 15th of April. However it will not be full service.



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Old April 8th, 2010, 11:48 PM   #259
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More pics of new stations and infastructure on the ELL
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Old April 10th, 2010, 12:13 AM   #260
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AFAIK, The London Overground between Dalston and Surrey Quays a week after the opening will operate 16tph with 80m trains. The trains will therefore be a similar legnth to 5-car lines on the Paris Metro, albeit with lower frequency. Will this mean that the route will be a metro line or a light metro line or something else?
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