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Old May 26th, 2010, 07:16 PM   #341
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seems a bit short sighted to not make stations future proof
a critical component of the infrastructure you're referring to was --uhmm-- drafted about 190 years ago



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especialy when its a simple case of building the ceiling a few centimetres higher.
for a simpleton? maybe; others? not...
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Old May 26th, 2010, 07:43 PM   #342
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for a simpleton? maybe; others? not...
No need for insults mate, i have never claimed to be an expert in railway engineering or to know much at all about this project.

I simply made an observation about the photograph that i had seen and wondered why that design was chosen.
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Old May 26th, 2010, 08:20 PM   #343
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for a simpleton? maybe; others? not...
Errr yes agreed, no need to be unpleasant
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Old May 26th, 2010, 09:44 PM   #344
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who knows what might happen in 10/20 years time. overhead electrification is generaly regarded as a better system than third rail.
seems a bit short sighted to not make stations future proof, especialy when its a simple case of building the ceiling a few centimetres higher.
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No need for insults mate, i have never claimed to be an expert in railway engineering or to know much at all about this project.
I'd be a lot more careful to make any accusations if I knew so little of the subject as you do. Now you can't complain when it all hits you back.
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Old May 26th, 2010, 09:55 PM   #345
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I'd be a lot more careful to make any accusations if I knew so little of the subject as you do. Now you can't complain when it all hits you back.
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a critical component of the infrastructure you're referring to was --uhmm-- drafted about 190 years ago




for a simpleton? maybe; others? not...
Sorry for offending you mr omniscient. I am sure most of the people who read this (or any) thread on this website have little knowledge about the topics up for discussion. That is the main raison d'etre of this website, to share information. If you can't deal with people like me who may not be as 'highly knowledgeable' as yourself without being discourteous, then that says a lot about yourself doesn't it?

I never expected such rude replies about something so trivial.

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Old May 26th, 2010, 10:23 PM   #346
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Sorry for offending you mr omniscient. I am sure most of the people who read this (or any) thread on this website have little knowledge about the topics up for discussion. That is the main raison d'etre of this website, to share information. If you can't deal with people like me who may not be as 'highly knowledgeable' as yourself without being discourteous, then that says a lot about yourself doesn't it?

I never expected such rude replies about something so trivial.
In defense of future.architect, I thought his question was reasonable and deserved a reasonable response, not insults.
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Old May 26th, 2010, 10:40 PM   #347
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for a simpleton? maybe; others? not...
It's about time you think before you post again. It's not the first time you've been looking for trouble around, and it better be the last.
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Old May 27th, 2010, 01:47 AM   #348
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Don't be dispirited by the transport nazis future, there's quite a few people on ssc who get far too up their own arses when it comes to discussing transport and love having arguments about it. The UK Transport section is just as bad.
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Old May 27th, 2010, 10:23 PM   #349
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My! what a heatwave...

My remarks were in response to engineering, little to do with transport, plus I have no penchant for architects.

Brasilia's architect essentially created a nightmare for its capital.

Some (prestigious) Canadian college's architect created a nightmare by insisting the window frames be of cedar instead of something solid to mitigate burglaries, etc., which the college kept experiencing.

Just like the Gulf of Mexico catastrophe: You hear plenty from the scientists yet nought from the engineers, who are ultimately the ones who save the day.

Same for film directors: They get all the attention when it's screenwriters who cause the bulk of the fame of some renowned film.

But then again, what do I know? Silliness, over which I reckon folks really ought to refrain from becoming so emotional: That's where I've been known to be coming from...
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Old May 28th, 2010, 08:57 PM   #350
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Shadwell Station - East London Line









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Old May 28th, 2010, 10:29 PM   #351
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Per your last photo there, I see the device on the trackbed between the (running) rails at the left-hand side of the picture. It's making me wonder if it`s for automatic (computerised) operation. Is the line now automatic or might the device just be for signalling purposes?
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Per your last photo there, I see the device on the trackbed between the (running) rails at the left-hand side of the picture. It's making me wonder if it`s for automatic (computerised) operation. Is the line now automatic or might the device just be for signalling purposes?
It's pretty standard Network Rail kit... you see it everywhere... I think it's the warning system in the cab for yellow / red signals (bells and hooters), but that being said I can't believe that the ELLX doesn't have ATP... Otherwise it would have become less safe than it was under LU.
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Old May 29th, 2010, 04:52 AM   #353
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Shadwell draws are really nice
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Old May 29th, 2010, 10:26 AM   #354
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It's pretty standard Network Rail kit... you see it everywhere... I think it's the warning system in the cab for yellow / red signals (bells and hooters), but that being said I can't believe that the ELLX doesn't have ATP... Otherwise it would have become less safe than it was under LU.
What I was trying to say, is it's an AWS inductor



I guess the ELLX also has TPWS installed, which is a half-arsed ATP
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Old May 29th, 2010, 05:52 PM   #355
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Does anyone know if the renos at Shadwell station are finished? There seems to be a lot of exposed wiring, pipes etc above the main pannelling at platform level, plus an odd gap at the base of those panels that makes them look temporary.
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Old May 29th, 2010, 07:10 PM   #356
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Definitely looks unfinished to me... At least I hope it is!
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Old June 3rd, 2010, 07:09 PM   #357
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Old June 3rd, 2010, 07:18 PM   #358
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Yes, the reopening of a refurbished East London Line is a vast improvement, they kept the old buildings for most and even managed to build some brand new stations.
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Old June 4th, 2010, 12:19 AM   #360
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The North London re-opened between Gospel Oak and Stratford this Monday after a 4 months closure to change the track layout for the extension of the ELL to Highbury & Islington, extend the platforms for 4 car trains, re-signalling, reconfiguring some tunnels for freight trains, etc.

Info regarding it is here and pictures of the refurbished stations are here and here.
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