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Old November 19th, 2010, 06:03 PM   #501
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I think they go into some surrounding counties.

Fantastic renders, very clean and appropriate lines. I'm very fond of the Whitechapel Station.
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Old November 19th, 2010, 06:19 PM   #502
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Crossrail, As It May Appear On The Tube Map

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Old November 19th, 2010, 06:26 PM   #503
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Simply great!

I can't wait
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Old November 19th, 2010, 07:01 PM   #504
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How far out do London's suburban trains go - to outer suburbs inside the M25, or to towns just outside the M25?
It really depends on the route, though it's not uncommon for suburban services to venture out well beyond the M25. Termini for suburban services include Shenfield, Bedford and Guildford.
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Old November 19th, 2010, 09:01 PM   #505
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Simply great!

I can't wait
It will the decade's project for London.
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Old November 19th, 2010, 11:10 PM   #506
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but when? date of first service?
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Old November 19th, 2010, 11:25 PM   #507
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If it goes according to plan, the whole network will be complete in 2017.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 02:26 AM   #508
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are you serious?

I was thinking it would be launched 2012-2013
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Old November 20th, 2010, 03:14 AM   #509
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Well I thought you had read some the information provided to you.

The project is already launched since it's already under construction and building tunnels under London is not exactly an easy task. But it will most certainly be worth the wait.

Meanwhile, loads of improvements have already been made in the Tube and London Overground and the investment will carry on for the 2012 Olympics.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 05:01 AM   #510
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It really depends on the route, though it's not uncommon for suburban services to venture out well beyond the M25. Termini for suburban services include Shenfield, Bedford and Guildford.
Those are the termination points of some inner suburban services. Regular commuting services go to Banbury, Newbury, Salisbury, Poole and Weymouth in the West. To all towns on the South Coast and the East coast to at least as far as Ipswich. Due to the High speed lines to the North Commuting goes further than Cambridge to Peterborough and Northampton. Though some people commute even further. Several thousand people pay for annual season tickets from York for example. 100 minutes seems to be the max for significant flows.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 06:35 AM   #511
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Is that map official? It certainly looks better than most other attempts.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 10:55 AM   #512
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Well it's hard to judge the exact boundary.

There are some extremely long distance super commuters in the UK and despite what a lot of people think there are a lot of long distance high speed services in the UK. Plus the fact that UK long distance trains are shorter yet more frequent in the UK than compared to Europe. Most major cities have half hourly or better express connection to the Capital. i.e. Leeds, York and most cities south on the East Coast Main line the Same for the South of Manchester east of Cardiff and East of Exeter.

Twelve carriage trains depart from Kings Lynn in the Peak and most of those passengers are not getting off at Cambridge.

The limit of peoples commute is time and money, with the trade off buying a larger property in a highly desirable market town. In the property sections of the quality papers, the cut off for serious interest in London money, for a country property, is said to be 100 minutes from the capital. Also their is the increase in people who own a small flat in the Capital and their main house in the country and these people may work 3 or four days in the Capital when needed for business and work from home when they can etc. so that has extended the commuting hinterland.

Low wage people catch the bus or tube in London, but the higher your wages, the further you can commute and the train companies earn most of their money from these people.

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Old November 20th, 2010, 02:53 PM   #513
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i think despite what lots of people says in Europe ie ...the train system in the UK is very nice and well handled...private companies offer a lot of possibilities to commute and simply travel to the UK and most of the times at a price less expensive than Belgian or France networks for example where the public is still the major net. back to London...
crossrail is gonna be the best improvement for London economy i think...Canary Wharf is gonna be so close to the city and vice versa...the development of Farrington area quite under evaluated now...is going to be a major Point in the future...and farrington is a lovely area...as working there for some times...
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Old November 20th, 2010, 04:03 PM   #514
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Minister Unveils New Crossrail Station Designs

Londoners were given a glimpse of the future as the Mayor of London Boris Johnson, and Rail Minister Theresa Villiers unveiled cutting edge designs of Crossrail stations to be built across central London and the Docklands.

An exhibition of the stunning designs, highlights the scale and extent of the new Crossrail stations at key London locations.

Over the last year some of the UK's best known architects have worked with world-class engineering firms to finalise the designs for eight of the new Crossrail stations. The results are stunning, sustainable and world-class designs of which London can be proud. The new stations will take inspiration from the past and from the local area but have a fresh modern twist. The work, at Bond Street, Canary Wharf, Custom House, Farringdon, Liverpool Street, Paddington, Tottenham Court Road and Whitechapel, will be on a scale not seen since the Jubilee Line Extension opened in 1999.

For passengers these new stations will deliver a vastly improved travelling experience, larger station entrances and ticket halls, more space and easy access to Crossrail and other transport services. Crossrail will boost London's rail capacity by ten per cent, delivering new journey opportunities, faster journey times and up to 24 trains per hour between Paddington and Whitechapel during the peak.

The Mayor of London, Boris Johnson, said: "As Crossrail moves from the drawing board to reality we can see the breathtaking benefits it will bring to our city and I'm thrilled Londoners can finally see designs of the world-class stations that we will construct. When complete they will run east to west in a solid backbone of quality infrastructure and style."

Rail Minister Theresa Villiers said: "These designs provide a glimpse of the impressive new buildings that will welcome passengers to the heart of our capital.

"Crossrail will enable passengers to arrive at their destinations in less time and more comfort. It will create thousands of jobs and potentially generate up to £50bn for the UK's GDP.

"We are working hard to make sure that the new railway offers the best possible value for money."

Rob Holden, Crossrail Chief Executive said: "The launch of detailed designs for eight Crossrail stations in central London and the Docklands is another milestone for Crossrail and a further demonstration of the project’s continued momentum. The station designs have a critical role to play in informing the public about what Crossrail will really deliver for London and for communities along the route."

A key element of all the new station designs is to help drive wider regeneration at a number of locations including Paddington, the West End, Farringdon and Whitechapel as well as improve public areas at street-level.

Architects have used the character and heritage of the local area to inspire the design of each station and to meet the needs of local communities across the capital. They are working with local authorities along the route to make sure the benefits of Crossrail do not stop at the station entrance but are fully integrated with wider development plans.

At Paddington, a major new station for passengers will be created providing easy interchange between Crossrail, National Rail and London Underground. The major redevelopment will also deliver an improved new pedestrian entrance from the canal towpath to both Paddington mainline station and a new Hammersmith & City line station.

Custom House will be a new station for passengers in the east, acting as a gateway for London and will be the only new Crossrail station where platforms are above ground. The station will welcome passengers from nearby London City Airport as well as regional and international visitors to London’s largest conference centre, ExCeL. The station will also become a new local transport interchange between Crossrail, Docklands Light Railway and London Buses.

Whitechapel Station has been designed to feature a spectacular step-free access walkway alongside the Crossrail concourse linking Whitechapel Road to the communities in the north of the area. This will provide a free pedestrian route from Durward Street to Whitechapel Road for local residents.

At Tottenham Court Road, the new station entrances at Centre Point will be a key design feature of a new public piazza and create a distinctive new landmark for the West End. Made of glass, these new step-free entrances will open up the station by allowing natural light into the levels below.

Designers have also been appointed to incorporate architectural components that will be used throughout the platform and tunnel environments in each station to create an integrated line-wide identity. This design work encompasses wall and floor finishes, lifts, escalators, lighting and signage suitable for use in all the new stations. This systematic approach will create a unified look, maximises value for money and yet allows each station to retain its individual identity.
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how long will it take between each station?
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Old November 20th, 2010, 05:31 PM   #516
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Is there a story to the big-ass size designed into the illuminated barrier indicators?
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Old November 21st, 2010, 12:14 PM   #517
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I'm not sure about the massive arrows, but I notice there's no ticket slot in those barriers - Oyster cards only.
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how long will it take between each station?
Can't really tell but I think the trains will be able to reach 100 km/h between stations.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 12:52 AM   #519
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If it goes according to plan, the whole network will be complete in 2017.
2018 now, cutting back on TBMs to save money
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It's a project for a decade anyway.
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