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Old November 22nd, 2010, 01:48 PM   #521
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 05:57 PM   #522
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Boris pledges to take the cross out of Crossrail

Boris Johnson promised to take the pain out of Crossrail for Londoners as he unveiled the new designs for the projects key stations yesterday.

The Mayor pledged to make sure that Londoners will not be inconvenienced by extra roadworks as construction on the £15.9billion scheme gets into full swing.

He said: "We will take the cross out of Crossrail by making sure the roads are not being dug up by the utility companies and the 109 other bodies who can dig them up.

"Roadworks are a blight and a blot, causing 38 per cent of all traffic delays in London.

"We'll get regulatory reform through, and get these bodies talking to each other to minimise the disruption to our citizens."

Mr Johnson was speaking at the opening of the exhibition at the Building Centre,, where plans for the first stations to open on the link can be examined in detail. They include Canary Wharf, where building work is already well underway.

The 256-metre long station in West India Dock will enable passengers to travel to Heathrow in 43 minutes and central London in just 15 minutes, providing a much-needed alternative to the Jubilee line.

Canary Wharf station, being developed in conjunction with Canary Wharf Group, should be the first one completed, with the first trains scheduled to run on the route in 2018.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 09:29 PM   #523
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 11:08 PM   #524
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Crossrail will still be worth the wait. At least it'll be standard British loading gauge compared to deep-bore trains (Central Line). I love the more organic variant of the JLE station design that's going to be used, it's quite classy.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 10:04 PM   #525
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And it will provide regeneration of buildings located on top of the stations.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 10:40 PM   #526
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Though what's going to sit atop Tottenham Court Road Station will probably be a massive disappointment:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1260219
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Old November 25th, 2010, 06:21 PM   #527
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New roof puts King’s Cross on track to be ‘world class’


Spacious: how the new concourse at King’s Cross will look and...

The £400 million refurbishment of King's Cross station is taking shape as work progresses on its new roof.

An 800-strong team is aiming to complete the upgrade in time for the 2012 Olympics.

The project will see the western concourse treble in size to cope with passenger numbers. About 47 million people pass through the station each year. This is expected to rise by about 10 million in the next decade.

There will be new shops and restaurants and improved access to the Tube, Thameslink services and St Pancras International.


... the station's roof taking shape

Once this refurbishment is completed, a public space larger than Leicester Square will be built over the following year between the original Grade I-listed station building and Euston Road.

Network Rail programme director Ian Fry said “King's Cross is being transformed into a world-class transport hub.” The station's redevelopment forms the centrepiece of the King's Cross area which, at 67 acres, is one of the largest regeneration schemes in Europe.
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Old November 25th, 2010, 07:14 PM   #528
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i like that roof, it's fantastic
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Old November 26th, 2010, 12:43 AM   #529
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the roof is great and in the trend of mark class new london architecture! It honours the city
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Old November 26th, 2010, 01:20 PM   #530
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Dear Friends, we'd like to know how many diesel trains run on Thameslink lines every day in London.
In our city (Torino) we are experiencing great problems due the diesel engines exhaust in the new Porta Susa underground terminal; if someone can read italian, this is the link: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1237627&page=9
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Old November 26th, 2010, 02:15 PM   #531
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Dear Friends, we'd like to know how many diesel trains run on Thameslink lines every day in London.
In our city (Torino) we are experiencing great problems due the diesel engines exhaust in the new Porta Susa underground terminal; if someone can read italian, this is the link: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1237627&page=9
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None, all Thameslink services are electric: they run on overhead AC north of Farringdon and 3rd rail DC south of Farringdon (the trains are dual-voltage and raise / lower the pantographs at Farringdon).

Many diesel services, including loco-hauled, used to run into the now-abandoned Moorgate 'stub' of Thameslink until 1979, but as the tunnels were originally built for steam trains, there was ventilation in the form of gaps in the tunnel to exhaust diesel fumes. I'd expect it was still pretty stinky regardless though, especially within Moorgate station where diesel locos and DMUs would be stood idle while terminating. As Moorgate is totally rafted over, there can't have been much opportunity for fumes to exhaust.

The route was closed 1979-1983, and was electrified upon re-opening. In 1988 'Thameslink' proper commenced through the re-opened Snow Hill Tunnel.
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Old November 26th, 2010, 02:45 PM   #532
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Old November 26th, 2010, 10:04 PM   #533
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2018 now, cutting back on TBMs to save money
Imagine if the cuts failed to save money we'd have to make more. This is the worst case scenario:

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Austerity tube map (read the description please) by Trowbridge Estate, on Flickr

I personally do not want to see Crossrail closures after how much they have invested in.

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Old November 26th, 2010, 11:54 PM   #534
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A few interesting points from Modern Railways in regards to London Rail.

The Overground is doing well with the East London line up to 92,000 passengers a day, ahead of schedule. Shoreditch has taken a while to take off as a route into the city, but each tube strike has boosted commuter awareness by a large degree and is boosting use. After phase 2 to Clapham opens, the best options would be to extend the Crystal Palace service to Clapham junction via Balham. They would like to find a way to sort out the West London line as they feel there is a lot of suppressed demand.

Currently there is a bit of a stand off over South West Train route into Waterloo 10 car project. There is much juggling around of ex Southern stock to upgrade to cars. The main problem is the cost of rebuilding Waterloo. Cost estimates are £185 million rather than the £85 Network rail have set aside. To get costs down one of the suggestions was to close Waterloo from Platforms 1 to 14 for 20 days. SWT has hit the roof over this idea and would rather it split into three platform groups. To cope with the extra passengers it is proposed to build a new balcony/mezzanine along the Northern wall converting the offices there to shops and restaurants and clearing the remaining retail units from the concourse.
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Old November 29th, 2010, 11:12 AM   #535
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Old November 30th, 2010, 04:20 AM   #536
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AFAIK, nearly all LOROL trains are now 4 cars, compared to 3 cars like before.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 11:19 PM   #537
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I found a render of what the Crossrail (or is it Thameslink?) trains could look like.


http://www.transportbriefing.co.uk/c...in.php?id=1274
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Old December 1st, 2010, 02:28 AM   #538
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That's a pretty sweet looking train! I've liked many of the recent British train designs.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 03:53 AM   #539
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The front shouldn't be sloped. It cuts into passenger capacity and is pointless for a train that will be mostly at 100km/h.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 02:49 PM   #540
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^ Sometimes, I think art and beauty is its own merit.

And I'm guessing Crossrail as it says Paddington. But who knows.

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