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Old October 6th, 2007, 07:39 PM   #81
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Is it really necessary to have stations in Bond Street and Tottenham Court Road at the same time?
I would imagine that one sation in this area should be sufficient.
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Old October 6th, 2007, 08:32 PM   #82
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Is it really necessary to have stations in Bond Street and Tottenham Court Road at the same time?
I would imagine that one station in this area should be sufficient.
If there were not two station it would only increase the existing overcrowding of the middle part of the central line. This way as well as the central line it connects to two other North-South lines (Jubilee and Northern). This will improve access to Crossrail and distribution of people arriving ion it.
It would be nice to link to the Victoria line as well but I am guessing that since Oxford Circus is already overcrowded and it would it was ruled out
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Old October 6th, 2007, 09:03 PM   #83
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platform overcrowding was the problem at oxford circus, but to be honest, the streets above also can not take any more people around the juntction. Bond street and TCR seem to be a great solution. Interchange with Crossrail Two at TCR will make the victoria unimportant anyway.

Part of me thinks that they should rename bond street or tcr as "oxford street" as I am sure that a lot of the passengers at Ox circus are looking for the shops.
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Old October 6th, 2007, 09:28 PM   #84
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Will Crossrail be part of the London Overground network, when finished?
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Old October 6th, 2007, 09:40 PM   #85
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That's a little misleading... I count only 7 actually new stations (as in new platforms):

Paddington
Bond Street
Tottenham Court Road
Farringdon
Liverpool Street
Whitechapel
Isle of Dogs
The map only shows the central section of the Underground Network, so of course you can't see all of the stations on the map that was posted. A few of the stations near the termini are indicated on the map in the first post.
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Old October 6th, 2007, 10:14 PM   #86
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Will Crossrail be part of the London Overground network, when finished?
Nope, Crossrail goes through the centre, Overground goes round the outside... They're not related and are completely different systems.
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Old October 7th, 2007, 02:05 AM   #87
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Crossrail is not intended as an RER. It will be a service of stopping trains with relatively short distances between the stations. Someone travelling from Maidenhead to Canary Wharf will stop at 20 stations on route.

Effectively, Crossrail is a main line gauge tube line. It's great advantage will be its larger size and capacity.
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Old October 7th, 2007, 11:47 AM   #88
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That's a little misleading... I count only 7 actually new stations (as in new platforms):

Paddington
Bond Street
Tottenham Court Road
Farringdon
Liverpool Street
Whitechapel
Isle of Dogs
Well, yes. And of course a lot of the track isn't new either; it will be taking over the slow lines west of Paddington. Just to clarify.
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Old October 7th, 2007, 02:51 PM   #89
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Won't Woolwich be new, hence all the hoo hah about who has to pay for it?
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Old October 7th, 2007, 07:38 PM   #90
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And aren't some overground stations going to be extensively 'modernised'?
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Old October 8th, 2007, 01:36 AM   #91
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So is this going to be part of the Tube, National Rail, or its own special network???
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Old October 8th, 2007, 03:06 AM   #92
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National Rail I think.
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Old October 9th, 2007, 12:24 AM   #93
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The map only shows the central section of the Underground Network, so of course you can't see all of the stations on the map that was posted. A few of the stations near the termini are indicated on the map in the first post.
Read my post dear
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Old October 9th, 2007, 12:25 AM   #94
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Won't Woolwich be new, hence all the hoo hah about who has to pay for it?
The Woolwich station is unlikely I fear
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Old October 9th, 2007, 12:25 AM   #95
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So is this going to be part of the Tube, National Rail, or its own special network???
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Old October 9th, 2007, 11:26 AM   #96
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There was demand for a station, located in Woolwich, to be added to the bill, but the cost for this new station to be built would have been too great, and so, was rejected by the government initially. However, after talks between Greenwich council and Berkeley Homes on how to find the £162 million required, plans for a Crossrail station at Woolwich were resubmitted to the Secretary of State.[11] On the 22nd March 2007 the government announced that Woolwich would be reintroduced into the bill.[12]

The station is currently planned to be situated between two stations that are currently on the bill on the Abbey Wood branch: Custom House and Abbey Wood.
Although it is wikipedia, so pinches of salt are due.
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Old October 9th, 2007, 10:04 PM   #97
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Nope, Crossrail goes through the centre, Overground goes round the outside... They're not related and are completely different systems.
I guess I wasn't very clear, sorry...I meant will Crossrail be maintained by TfL and treated as part of the Overground network or has that not been figured out yet (It's still a long way off until completion).
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Old October 10th, 2007, 12:54 AM   #98
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I guess I wasn't very clear, sorry...I meant will Crossrail be maintained by TfL and treated as part of the Overground network or has that not been figured out yet (It's still a long way off until completion).
I wouldn't be surprised if TFL weigh in with a lot of influence over Crossrail operations, if not ultimate control. It will have to be a franchise in its own right, so it may well end up with TFL finding a partner to bid for it with (like MTR for Overground).
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Old October 10th, 2007, 01:45 AM   #99
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If the diggers moved in tomorrow I'd be positive about this, but the 'starting in 2010' thing doesn't reassure me one bit.
Me neither, especially when reading nothing more than some intention in the following excerpt from the posted article:
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Construction on Crossrail would start in 2010
Sorry, but "would" signifies no go-ahead. London needs these crossrail lines real bad........what's become of the proposed north-south line?
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Old October 10th, 2007, 03:33 AM   #100
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North-south line? We aren't in Singapore! It's called the "Chelney line" or "Chelsea-Hackney line" or maybe Crossrail 2

And nothing has become of it unfortunately.
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