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Old January 28th, 2014, 06:55 PM   #1221
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Look and feel of new Thameslink trains revealed
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A mock-up of two carriages of the new fleet of trains which will run on the Thameslink rail network through Blackfriars, London Bridge and Elephant & Castle has been unveiled.

The full-size mock-up is open to the public this Wednesday at the ExCel centre in east London.

The new fleet of 1,140 carriages is the final stage in the Thameslink programme which has included major rebuilding at Blackfriars, Borough Market and London Bridge Station

Platforms at many stations have been extended to allow 12-car trains to serve more destinations.

The German-built Siemens class 700 trains will be introduced into passenger service between 2016 and 2018, replacing the class 319 trains which date from 1988.

In 2018, when the new London Bridge Station is completed, there will be up to 24 trains an hour at peak times through Blackfriars to St Pancras International.

"We are transforming our railways through the biggest programme of rail investment ever," said rail minister Stephen Hammond.

"These exciting new trains, combined with the wider Thameslink Programme are a real boost to UK Plc, creating thousands of jobs in construction and across the supply chain, which is driving forward our economy.

"Once operational they will provide a huge benefit to the hundreds of thousands of passengers who travel into London every day. It will vastly improve train travel providing fast, reliable and more frequent services."

First Capital Connect operates the current Thameslink franchise and has worked closely with the government to develop the new trains. MD David Statham said: "This new fleet will give passengers more trains, more carriages and more capacity which our passengers desperately need.

"The Thameslink Programme will deliver more than double the number of carriages across the heart of London. At London Bridge alone the programme will deliver 60 per cent more carriages in the morning rush hour.

"There'll also be exciting new journey opportunities from places along the route from Cambridge and Peterborough across the Thames to Blackfriars and beyond."

The mock-up is open to the public on Wednesday 29 January from 2pm to 8pm at ExCel in the Royal Docks.

A model of the new trains will be exhibited between 3.30pm and 7pm at Blackfriar
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Old January 28th, 2014, 07:50 PM   #1222
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^ just about to post about that!
New Thameslink Class 700s Unveiled, some more images
http://www.siemens.co.uk/pool/news_p...irst-class.jpg
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/ima...54.187.240.jpg
http://www.siemens.co.uk/pool/news_p...rd-class-2.jpg
http://www.siemens.co.uk/pool/news_p...chair-area.jpg
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Old January 28th, 2014, 08:59 PM   #1223
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Old January 28th, 2014, 09:12 PM   #1224
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Interior in the TSGN livery just as the refurbished 365s are. Seats appear to be the same as those in the 377/6 & /7s and based on reports from people who've use them, they're not exactly comfortable. Moquette appears similar to that which appeared in the IC250 mock up!
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Old January 28th, 2014, 09:19 PM   #1225
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Interior in the TSGN livery just as the refurbished 365s are. Seats appear to be the same as those in the 377/6 & /7s and based on reports from people who've use them, they're not exactly comfortable. Moquette appears similar to that which appeared in the IC250 mock up!
And inside a car is not so spacious, or it should be?
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I don't know, looking at the picture of the isle it appears to be wider however this could just because everything is quite bright and neutral giving the illusion of space?
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Old January 28th, 2014, 09:51 PM   #1227
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I don't know, looking at the picture of the isle it appears to be wider however this could just because everything is quite bright and neutral giving the illusion of space?
I don't know too. It looks like Thameslink has its own gauge size
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Siemens material regarding the 700s states them as having 25% more capacity than a comparable desiro uk product. I'd imagine that comes from the fewer seats per carriage, in some areas 2+1 seating has been adopted for standard which increases capacity. Thameslink doesn't have its own gauge since services run out onto lines in Kent and the Brighton, Midland and East Coast Main Lines so would have to be compatible with all those gauges, I'd imagine therefore that combined with a thinner body shell, fewer thinner seats and the stark white it has created this illusion of more space
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Old January 28th, 2014, 10:21 PM   #1229
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Siemens material regarding the 700s states them as having 25% more capacity than a comparable desiro uk product. I'd imagine that comes from the fewer seats per carriage, in some areas 2+1 seating has been adopted for standard which increases capacity. Thameslink doesn't have its own gauge since services run out onto lines in Kent and the Brighton, Midland and East Coast Main Lines so would have to be compatible with all those gauges, I'd imagine therefore that combined with a thinner body shell, fewer thinner seats and the stark white it has created this illusion of more space
How really interesting! Manchester77, thanks! And as far I understood, this model has power both from third rail and from catenary? Why I am asking about this? Because I've heard from the media about incidents, involving people falling on third rail-electricified tracks and burning hands or legs. How much would be spend on conversion electification from third rail to overhead and what the most important obstacles for this?
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Yeah the changeover is at City Thameslink or Farringdon (the tunnel is dual voltage incase a pantograph won't go down a train can turn AC at City Thameslink)

The 3rd Rail DC system is a legacy of the London & South Western railway who electrified their suburban routes out of Waterloo, when grouping occurred and southern came into existence the company was dominated by LSWR managers and so the 3rd rail system was chosen. To convert all the lines would require lots of money as the southern system stretches from Bournemouth and Weymouth to Kent - a trial is due to occur to Bournemouth in CP5 to see how conversion could be done. However if implemented it would take many years to arrive into the capital. Despite its initial complexity the way termini are arranged means that disruption would be localised to that service group, look at Waterloo with it neatly arranged Windsor Lines, SWML, fast etc format. Most stock can be made dual voltage and the stock which can't would be at life expires by the time wires reach those routes (455, 456, networkers(?)) I imagine that as we enter CP7 in the late 2020s there will a plan to gradually replace the 3rd rail network which will obviously require some bridges to be replaced however there are no major obstacles I can think of, by this I'm thinking of major roads, other railway lines.
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And what about the height of Blackfriars's station roof? Is this roof is height enough to bring catenary underneath? I worried about this, especially after recent accident with pantograph
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That was brought up on a different site and it was found out that OHLE can be fitted in I'd imagine that the pantograph will be very low though.
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Class 700 Press Disk:
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do the 700s use LED lighting in the interior? These would last longer and give a (probably slight) energy saving.
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do the 700s use LED lighting in the interior? These would last longer and give a (probably slight) energy saving.
Yes one visitor to the mock up said fully LED lit!
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Yes one visitor to the mock up said fully LED lit!
good, love LED lighting and the while it produces, hate yellow (or warm in marketing speak) "white" .
Isn't LED full spectrum?
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More photos about new Thameslink train from IanVisits blog:











































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Laing O'Rourke to remodel London Overground’s Willesden Junction depot
29 January 2014

Laing O'Rourke has received a £22m contract from the Transport for London (TfL) to remodel Willesden Junction that serves London Overground services.

The contract will run from March for a year, and will include civil engineering, track, overhead line and third rail electrification and signalling upgrades.

Laing O'Rourke will also provide additional sidings at Wembley to accommodate longer, five-car London Overground trains.

TfL said that the extension of the depot will be in a north east direction towards the station and at Wembley former freight sidings will be upgraded to stable passenger trains.
The contract is part of TfL's £320m capacity improvement programme to improve the capacity of London Overground. As part of the programme, TfL is planning to build new storage facilities, upgrade existing maintenance depots, and extend platforms at several stations across the network.

TfL further said that platform works will be carried out at 12 stations on the Highbury & Islington to New Cross, Crystal Palace, West Croydon and Clapham Junction routes and 17 stations on the Richmond to Stratford route.

TfL London Overground director Mike Stubbs said: "This is a key contract in the development of the network as we work to provide 25% more capacity as part of TfL's continued investment in London Overground.

"It will ensure we remain able to meet the growing demand for London Overground services which, at 89%, have one of the highest levels of passenger satisfaction in London and the South East."
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Those Thameslink look so awesome! Almost like a (less sinister) Cylon or something.
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CROSSRAIL COMPLETES UNPRECEDENTED FORTNIGHT OF TUNNELLING MILESTONES



Monday 3rd February 2014
By Hamish McDougall
  • Crossrail’s western tunnels completed as tunnel boring machine (TBM) Ada reaches her final destination at Farringdon
  • London’s newest Thames tunnel completed as TBM Sophia concludes her journey from Plumstead to North Woolwich while TBM Jessica finishes at Stepney Green cavern
  • 42km tunnelling marathon is now 70% complete with over 30km of new rail tunnel under London now constructed
  • Crossrail has delivered an unprecedented fortnight of construction progress ranging from completion of new train tunnels to three spectacular tunnel boring machine breakthroughs.

Crossrail’s western tunnels are now structurally complete with tunnelling machine (TBM) Ada reaching the end of her journey at Farringdon on 24 January, having set out from Royal Oak near Paddington in August 2012. This follows the arrival of her sister machine Phyllis at Farringdon in October 2013.

Over in southeast London, TBM Sophia has completed Crossrail’s first tunnel beneath the Thames, arriving at the North Woolwich Portal on 29 January, having started south of the river in Plumstead last August.

TBM Jessica has also completed her tunnelling journey from Pudding Mill Lane and broke through into one of Europe’s largest mined caverns beneath Stepney Green on 3 February.

In addition, tunnelling machine Elizabeth made a spectacular entrance into the new Crossrail station at Whitechapel on 20 January on her journey from Limmo Peninsula to Farringdon. Her sister machine Victoria also broke through into Stepney Green on 30 January.

Crossrail has also finished civil construction of the first of two new Bond Street station ticket halls. The western ticket hall on Davies Street is five storeys underground, with works starting earlier this month on a passenger tunnel to connect the Crossrail ticket hall to the existing underground station.

The milestones continue Crossrail’s impressive construction progress, which recently passed the halfway mark on time and within budget. In 2014 the project will transition from major civil engineering work to station and tunnel fit-out. 30km out of 42km of bored tunnels are now complete.

Andrew Wolstenholme OBE, Crossrail Chief Executive said: “The tunnelling teams deserve tremendous credit for their safe and efficient progress in constructing this major new railway under London. The end is now in sight for Crossrail tunnelling with over 70 per cent of the new rail tunnels now constructed. The next major element of the Crossrail programme will now begin with the fit-out of our tunnels and stations.”

The 150 metre long, 1,000 tonne machines create 6.2m diameter tunnels by installing precast concrete segments in rings to line the tunnel. They are pushed forward by hydraulic rams and positioned using lasers and Global Positioning Systems.

Ada’s 6.9 kilometre journey has been particularly challenging for engineers, successfully navigating a complex web of Tube lines, building foundation piles and infrastructure up to 30 metres beneath central London. This included passing less than a metre above the operational Northern line at Tottenham Court Road.

More than 72,000 pre-cast concrete segments have been used to line the western tunnels and about two million tonnes of earth has been excavated, destined for a new RSPB nature reserve at Wallasea Island, Essex.

Now that Sophia’s journey has finished, her sister Mary will shortly be launched from the Woolwich box to complete the final section of tunnelling on Crossrail’s southeast section. With the arrival of TBM Jessica at Stepney, an eighth tunnelling machine, Ellie, will commence her journey from Pudding Mill Lane to Stepney later this month.

TBM Jessica will be taken to Limmo Peninsula for reassembly where she will construct the new Crossrail tunnels between Limmo and Victoria Dock Portal
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