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Manchester Planner · March 15th, 2010, 10:07 PM

I'm glad Rotherhithe and Wapping are being kept.

iampuking · March 17th, 2010, 12:08 AM

Pics of the new depot at New Cross for the ELL.

makita09 · March 17th, 2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MelbourneCity

I noticed in the videos the 378s have provisions in the roof for pantographs to be installed at a later date if required.

All new mainlin electric multiple units in the UK have pantograph recesses, whether or not they are needed, since the end of the '90s

lucaf1 · March 17th, 2010, 09:20 PM

Map: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/passen...onnections.pdf

ajw373 · March 18th, 2010, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makita09

All new mainlin electric multiple units in the UK have pantograph recesses, whether or not they are needed, since the end of the '90s

Thats a pretty broad statement that isn't quite right. The reason the recesses are there is simply because the train shells are all standard designs. So if they are used only on 3rd rail systems they are left blank.

iampuking · March 19th, 2010, 12:00 AM

Pics of the brand new Hoxton, Haggerston, Dalston Junction and Shoreditch High Street stations, as well as the refurbished Shadwell. All for the soon to open East London line extension.

***deasine*** · March 19th, 2010, 02:36 AM

I'm surprised they didn't take a few of the renovations even further... but overall, looking quite promising.

Seeing so many spurs and line branches, what is the frequency of the trains?

ajw373 · March 19th, 2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by deasine

I'm surprised they didn't take a few of the renovations even further... but overall, looking quite promising.

Seeing so many spurs and line branches, what is the frequency of the trains?

The rather odd thing is the map inside the train doesn't appear to show the East London line. Ie where these trains will be running.

Instead it shows the existing London Overground Network. Then at Shadwell there is the line map showing all the stations South of there, inlcuidng those planned. This of course makes sense, but you would hope before the line opens they will cover up the branches and stations that will open later.

But you are right, it does look very complex with all the branches (of the ELL), wonder what effect this will have in the future when it comes to reliability of the new network?

iampuking · March 20th, 2010, 12:18 AM

Dalston - Surrey Quays: 16tph (train every 3 3/4 minutes)
New Cross Gate - Sydenham: 8tph (train every 7 1/2 minutes)
Branches: 4tph (train every 15 minutes)

***deasine*** · March 21st, 2010, 04:15 AM

That's actually not too bad.

CairnsTony · March 21st, 2010, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deasine

I'm surprised they didn't take a few of the renovations even further... but overall, looking quite promising.

I think they wanted to retain many historical features such as original brickwork as the East London line is very old. The system itself of course is very modern and looks fantastic. It's going to be a great addition to London's transport infrastructure.

iampuking · March 28th, 2010, 01:36 AM

Went on the 378s for the first time the other day. They definately feel very different from both tube trains and traditional NR trains. Does anybody know how many 313s are still to be replaced?

CairnsTony · March 28th, 2010, 11:38 AM

I'm curious to know, has any actual tunnel boring started yet on Crossrail?

iampuking · March 29th, 2010, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CairnsTony

I'm curious to know, has any actual tunnel boring started yet on Crossrail?

I think some cut-and-cover sections have be dug but I don't think any bored sections have. Read this thread for better updates.

ladyb · March 31st, 2010, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iampuking

Went on the 378s for the first time the other day. They definately feel very different from both tube trains and traditional NR trains. Does anybody know how many 313s are still to be replaced?

I went on a 378 last year from Stratford to West Hampstead. I didn't like the fact that you can't look out the window, and the ride is quite firm. Still I look forward to the return of the service. Being able to get to Dalston without the long slow crawl from London Bridge on the 149 bus will be good.

iampuking · April 1st, 2010, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladyb

I went on a 378 last year from Stratford to West Hampstead. I didn't like the fact that you can't look out the window, and the ride is quite firm. Still I look forward to the return of the service. Being able to get to Dalston without the long slow crawl from London Bridge on the 149 bus will be good.

The seats are too hard but I think the ride quality is good.

paris_nombril · April 7th, 2010, 03:17 PM

Related to that subject, I refer to the later link (The International Railway Journal, May 2010):

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/sb/irj0410/#/26

iampuking · April 8th, 2010, 01:54 AM

4-car 378s testing at New Cross Gate. New Cross Gate - Dalston services are set to allow passengers from the 15th of April. However it will not be full service.

iampuking · April 8th, 2010, 10:48 PM

More pics of new stations and infastructure on the ELL

iampuking · April 9th, 2010, 11:13 PM

AFAIK, The London Overground between Dalston and Surrey Quays a week after the opening will operate 16tph with 80m trains. The trains will therefore be a similar legnth to 5-car lines on the Paris Metro, albeit with lower frequency. Will this mean that the route will be a metro line or a light metro line or something else?

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*deasine* =) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,481 Likes (Received): 6	I'm surprised they didn't take a few of the renovations even further... but overall, looking quite promising. Seeing so many spurs and line branches, what is the frequency of the trains? Last edited by deasine; March 19th, 2010 at 05:23 AM.

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paris_nombril Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 47 Likes (Received): 0	Overground enhancements Related to that subject, I refer to the later link (The International Railway Journal, May 2010): http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/sb/irj0410/#/26

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March 15th, 2010, 10:07 PM	#121
Manchester Planner Chief Bureaucrat Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,848 Likes (Received): 1	I'm glad Rotherhithe and Wapping are being kept.

March 17th, 2010, 12:08 AM	#122
iampuking Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,767 Likes (Received): 1	Pics of the new depot at New Cross for the ELL.

March 17th, 2010, 09:20 PM	#124
lucaf1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,910 Likes (Received): 4	Map: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/passen...onnections.pdf

March 19th, 2010, 12:00 AM	#126
iampuking Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,767 Likes (Received): 1	Pics of the brand new Hoxton, Haggerston, Dalston Junction and Shoreditch High Street stations, as well as the refurbished Shadwell. All for the soon to open East London line extension.

March 20th, 2010, 12:18 AM	#129
iampuking Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,767 Likes (Received): 1	Dalston - Surrey Quays: 16tph (train every 3 3/4 minutes) New Cross Gate - Sydenham: 8tph (train every 7 1/2 minutes) Branches: 4tph (train every 15 minutes)

March 21st, 2010, 04:15 AM	#130
*deasine* =) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,481 Likes (Received): 6	That's actually not too bad.

March 28th, 2010, 01:36 AM	#132
iampuking Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,767 Likes (Received): 1	Went on the 378s for the first time the other day. They definately feel very different from both tube trains and traditional NR trains. Does anybody know how many 313s are still to be replaced?

March 28th, 2010, 11:38 AM	#133
CairnsTony Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Cairns, Qld. Posts: 213 Likes (Received): 1	I'm curious to know, has any actual tunnel boring started yet on Crossrail?

April 8th, 2010, 01:54 AM	#138
iampuking Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,767 Likes (Received): 1	4-car 378s testing at New Cross Gate. New Cross Gate - Dalston services are set to allow passengers from the 15th of April. However it will not be full service.

April 8th, 2010, 10:48 PM	#139
iampuking Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,767 Likes (Received): 1	More pics of new stations and infastructure on the ELL

April 9th, 2010, 11:13 PM	#140
iampuking Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,767 Likes (Received): 1	AFAIK, The London Overground between Dalston and Surrey Quays a week after the opening will operate 16tph with 80m trains. The trains will therefore be a similar legnth to 5-car lines on the Paris Metro, albeit with lower frequency. Will this mean that the route will be a metro line or a light metro line or something else?