Beautiful Abuja - Africa's purpose built and model city - Page 5

Mister79 · February 14th, 2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthias Offodile

Mister79,

Spain = a third World country in the 1980s? LOL

Spain was a very poor country 30 years ago. 40% was underfeed, the infrastructure was horrible, a lot of cities had no sewage, their were people who lived in caves on the rurale areas were their was not elektricity or water etc

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In 1957 1 percent of the population belonged to the upper class, 38.8 percent to the middle class, and 60.2 percent to the lower class.

By 1988 the figures were 4.8 percent, 59.4 percent, and 32.9 percent, respectively.

http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/economies/Europe/Spain-POVERTY-AND-WEALTH.html#ixzz0fXVoxLwQ[/url]

Alex Roney · February 14th, 2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister79

Spain was a very poor country 30 years ago. 40% was underfeed, the infrastructure was horrible, a lot of cities had no sewage, their were people who lived in caves on the rurale areas were their was not elektricity or water etc

Mind you the bulk of the people in the "lower class" weren't considered "poor" but working class. Their is a big difference between the two.

kenndo · February 14th, 2010, 10:35 PM

well that's true,lower class does not mean poor.lower class is broken up in two groups.

you have the poor or working poor and you have the working class.so you are right lower class does not mean poor only.i think spain gnp ppp was around 3,000 dollars in 1980,so i do not think it was poor but it the country was not built up more fully yet.

in the 1960's and and maybe most of the 70's it was poor i think.

but for spain do you know the bulk that was working class in 1957 or in the in 1960's ?

because if most of of the lower class was working class then most of the population was not poor,but if only 11% or less was working class in the lower class group than spain in 1957 was poor and more so if gnp ppp income was in the lower income group.

jules3c · February 15th, 2010, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kreed

Washington DC was designed and built by Black-Americans, both slave and Free from scratch. The white house, capital building, treasury and nearly every other Federal building in that town was built by Black-American slaves rented by the government from their owners, most of whom were Virginian, Maryland plantation owners.

Our nation's second president, John Adams, was the first president to move into the new capital as it was being built; Adams was a Massachusetts man, a northern state were slavery didn't exist, and as he made his way up the dirt road to his new home his happiness of arriving going to the new capital was soon turned to immense despair as for as far as the eye could see spread out across the land mass of the area... he could see thousands upon thousands of men, women and even child slaves toiling in the muddy, snow drift marsh and hilly land, shaping and molding the new city into being.

Present at the white house upon his arrival we over 100 slaves frantically working to complete the building, a scene in which his wife depicted as deplorable, and wondered "what good could come out of a place built upon an outright act of Evil".

The slaves worked on the massive house and city project during the entire remaining time Adams was in office, constantly in view and constantly reminding Adams of the fact of that his inexpendible role he played in obtaining the freedom of Americans from their British masters was null and void in obtaining the freedom of all Americans from terrorny; a scene in which helped influence his wife to decide to leave the capital and move back to the family's house in Massachusetts.

I think this is something Hollywood should put on the big screen. It would be great for history lessons.

bayviews · February 15th, 2010, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Xusein

I thought it was the other way around.

Yeah, Washington would be better if it was the reverse, but no, he had it the right way.

Washington may be not be as charmless as it was then.

But its no more efficient.

Once again, our capital city came to a standstill just because of a snowstorm that would have been routingly cleared up in your city!

Alex Roney · February 15th, 2010, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bayviews

Yeah, Washington would be better if it was the reverse, but no, he had it the right way.

Washington may be not be as charmless as it was then.

But its no more efficient.

Once again, our capital city came to a standstill just because of a snowstorm that would have been routingly cleared up in your city!

Oh come on your being a little harsh. Any type of snow storm would have that affect in most big cities. Especially since it was unprecedented. People bitch but the authorities do a damn good job in making things bearable for the population, it really isn't that easy. I mean the highways were pretty much cleared up a day after the big downpour of 19 inches (in Pennsylvania) within a day. Considering the circumstances they do a damn good job. In the U.K, they ran out of salt and it was a complete disaster, two inches of snow and London stops working.

But this is an American trait, I get the idea that Americans hold their government to a higher standard than most developed countries ( bar the French).

bayviews · February 15th, 2010, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Roney

Oh come on your being a little harsh.

Perhaps....But NYC, Chicago or Buffalo would have cleared the snow up a lot faster, this happens everytime there's another storm in DC.

Remember, DC's our capital city, when it comes to a standstill so does most of the Fed govt.

Even if snow isn't an everyday thing, its got to be prepared to work with a bit more efficiency than say...New Orleans.

I'll give DC credit for improvement. At least the streetlights are working, that wasn't always the case.

paddylo · February 15th, 2010, 06:06 AM

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***egypt69*** · February 15th, 2010, 06:12 AM

What's that mosque in Abuja called?? Its quite famous.

paddylo · February 15th, 2010, 07:09 AM

PEOPLE,FACES AND PLACES OF ABUJA
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unity fountain with all the Nigerian States listed
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Carver02 · February 15th, 2010, 07:38 AM

Thanks, Paddylo. I think this is my all-time favorite photo on SSC.

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Samuel107 · February 15th, 2010, 02:24 PM

Northern boys look really alike

Tbite · February 15th, 2010, 05:32 PM

paddylo · February 16th, 2010, 03:11 AM

MORE PEOPLE,FACES AND PLACES OF ABUJA

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I Love this church
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NIGERIAN SPACE RESEARCH CENTRE ABUJA

Pule · February 16th, 2010, 09:17 AM

Lovely City.

paddylo · March 14th, 2010, 12:09 AM

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BUTEMBO21 · March 14th, 2010, 12:17 AM

I would have loved if the Eagle square was double what it is. , its small for a big nation (IMO).

Carver02 · March 14th, 2010, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BUTEMBO21

I would have loved if the Eagle square was double what it is. , its small for a big nation (IMO).

It can easily be expanded towards the SW, if they choose to.

BUTEMBO21 · March 14th, 2010, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Carver02

It can easily be expanded towards the SW, if they choose to.

God that there is room for expansion.

I would love to see Legos build a big square. think about the beauty it will increase in the lagoon city.

uyomufok · March 14th, 2010, 08:05 AM

I normally refrain from posting comments in any thread due to a lot of misplaced arguments that characterizes the African forum. However depicting Abuja as not clean enough and a product of the ingenuity or expertise of foreigners only, a position held my Mathais Offodile, is tilting facts in a wrong direction. Abuja was built by Julius Berger (Nig)- a Nigerian Construction Company that is quoted in the stock exchange. The Parent Company is German but its Nigerian subsidiary is filled to the brim with Nigerian Engineers and Technicians. At this point in time, to think that Nigerian Engineers do not know how to design roads, bridges and buildings and even construct them is fraught with a lack of awareness that is often displayed here. So Abuja is a Nigerian effort with support from Julius Bergers' Parent Company in Germany.

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kenndo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,566 Likes (Received): 13	well that's true,lower class does not mean poor.lower class is broken up in two groups. you have the poor or working poor and you have the working class.so you are right lower class does not mean poor only.i think spain gnp ppp was around 3,000 dollars in 1980,so i do not think it was poor but it the country was not built up more fully yet. in the 1960's and and maybe most of the 70's it was poor i think. but for spain do you know the bulk that was working class in 1957 or in the in 1960's ? because if most of of the lower class was working class then most of the population was not poor,but if only 11% or less was working class in the lower class group than spain in 1957 was poor and more so if gnp ppp income was in the lower income group.

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uyomufok Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 703 Likes (Received): 14	I normally refrain from posting comments in any thread due to a lot of misplaced arguments that characterizes the African forum. However depicting Abuja as not clean enough and a product of the ingenuity or expertise of foreigners only, a position held my Mathais Offodile, is tilting facts in a wrong direction. Abuja was built by Julius Berger (Nig)- a Nigerian Construction Company that is quoted in the stock exchange. The Parent Company is German but its Nigerian subsidiary is filled to the brim with Nigerian Engineers and Technicians. At this point in time, to think that Nigerian Engineers do not know how to design roads, bridges and buildings and even construct them is fraught with a lack of awareness that is often displayed here. So Abuja is a Nigerian effort with support from Julius Bergers' Parent Company in Germany.

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