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Old February 12th, 2010, 06:57 PM   #1
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Lviv, Ukraine

After one day staying in Przemyśl, I went to Lviv. We (this was an organised trip) had to wait 2 hours on the border. When we came to Lviv, milicja (Ukrainian police) stopped us and they wanted to check everything in our coach. Of course, we didn't have time to that, so they... suggested us to give them some money. Fortunately they didn't want much =]
I have very good memories from Lviv. People was very friendly and everything was much cheaper, so I bought many things. The city needs a lot of renovation, but it has a big potential. First part of photos: Prospekt Swobody and Main Square:






























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Old February 12th, 2010, 07:09 PM   #2
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Second part of photos contains some other views on the city and pictures of Łyczakowski Cementery. It is a place, where many famous Poles have their graves.






























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Old February 12th, 2010, 08:50 PM   #3
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beautiful city, i like very much the green spaces
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Old February 13th, 2010, 01:27 AM   #4
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Painful to see these pics. Great architecture but if this was in Poland, a lot of it would be renovated already. It seems it did not sustain much damage in the war. Also, I saw that Adam Mickiewicz statue. I'm surprised the Ukrainians kept that up. I always thought they were not so friendly to Poles. Does anyone know why this city was given to Ukraine after WWII?
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Old February 13th, 2010, 01:35 AM   #5
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fantastic designs on those old buildings.
the old cemetery though seemingly derelict is beautiful.
BTW, is this the same city as Lvov?
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Old February 13th, 2010, 05:44 AM   #6
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Yes. Lwow is the Polish spelling. Lvov is the Ukrainian one. Poles built this city.
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Old February 13th, 2010, 10:19 AM   #7
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Old February 13th, 2010, 11:37 AM   #8
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Great set of pics. You can tell this was a Hapsburg city until 1918.
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Old February 13th, 2010, 12:00 PM   #9
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Lwow in Ukraine looks really very nice
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Old February 13th, 2010, 02:37 PM   #10
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"Lvov" is the russian spelling, ukrainian one is "Lviv"
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Old February 14th, 2010, 12:06 PM   #11
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One of the most beautiful imperial cities of Europe, without exaggeration.
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Old February 14th, 2010, 04:35 PM   #12
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Really beautiful city, even if it is rundown.


I have never seen anything like this building, very cool! I also noticed that there still are many Ladas left on the roads.
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Old February 14th, 2010, 05:40 PM   #13
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And the Germans built Danzig/Gdansk and Wroclaw. That's life, and there is nothing anybody can do about it. It is interesting to witness, how contrarily different, Poland is, to its neighboring countries. In terms of standard of living, Poland is right in the middle(just like its geographic location). German cities, are so much more well preserved, clean, and renovated then Poland's. On the other hand, when you compare, many places in Ukraine, Russia, Poland looks so much more healthy and revitalized.
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Old February 14th, 2010, 07:38 PM   #14
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Yes but Polish people rebuilt those cities with their own hands after WWII so you can't say that they are German cities anymore This is my mentality and I am sticking with it. Because of this very fact they can never be called German cities again. In terms of standard of living, Germans benefited from money and aid after WWII so this is why they are ahead. Poland's catching up and has made impressive progress. But you're right how the further east you go, the crappier it gets.
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Yes but Polish people rebuilt those cities with their own hands after WWII so you can't say that they are German cities anymore This is my mentality and I am sticking with it. Because of this very fact they can never be called German cities again. In terms of standard of living, Germans benefited from money and aid after WWII so this is why they are ahead. Poland's catching up and has made impressive progress. But you're right how the further east you go, the crappier it gets.

Yes, Gdansk/Wroclaw/Poznan etc... are Polish, but we can't be so blind and stubborn, as to think, that the Germans had absolutely no historical impact, on any of the aforementioned cities. Polish and German history will forever be intertwined.

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Old February 14th, 2010, 08:11 PM   #16
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Yes I agree. I was just trying to say that calling them "German" cities in 2010 is not fair. Since we're on this topic: what cities have always been Polish? I am assuming Warsaw, Lublin, Lodz, Przemysl, Bialystok, Krakow(??). Any other ones?
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Old February 14th, 2010, 08:16 PM   #17
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Well, in fact there are only two 100% Polish city - Gdynia and Stalowa Wola. But you can also add cities like Kielce, Radom - basically all the cities that were in Poland before II WW and are still in this country.
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Oh Lord, here we go again. Why do you people need to bring up this pointless discussion about where do certain cities belong to. Just enjoy the photos!

I was in Lviv few years ago and even though the city was pretty rusty and chaotic, I absolutely loved some of the buildings. Obviously, they need renovations, no doubt about it, but just imagine how glorious the city would be if people are already able to see its beauty at this very time!
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Old February 15th, 2010, 10:15 AM   #19
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this city is really on my to-go list! awesome.
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Old February 15th, 2010, 10:50 AM   #20
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Really beautiful city, even if it is rundown.


I have never seen anything like this building, very cool! I also noticed that there still are many Ladas left on the roads.
It's a "Black House" ("Czarna Kamienica" in Polish)

There are still many Ladas. In Poland there are not many wrecked and not many very rich cars. Most are medium. In Ukraine there aren't many medium cars. 75% are very old and 25% very new and rich. The contrast is really big.
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