Mumbai Transportation Thread - (Surface/Water only)

[sumant]

koresh is probably right.They probably do represent the stop numbers Because I have noticed whenever i have purchased the ticket he usually asks which stop i got in the bus and which stop I am getting down and punches the corresponding number on the ticket.The tc then checks whether tickets are punched properly or not. dont know waht they do if there are more than 25 stops on the route.

[dreadathecontrols]

image shacks gone wiered so..
anyway New a/c buses very comfortable.
Mechanicaly rubbish.Cant go up hills at all , so useless on flyovers.everything passed us.


Sounded like a non turbo ashok leyand bus engine.Had to over rev alot so a tad noisy.









No one seemed to be bothere about the polythene









obviously had some leeks, now taped up....














Overall immpression?
Just do what bangalores done and use volvos.

[koresh]

The long routes are all limited buses. There are very few long routes with ordinary buses.The conductor punches the last number.

On a ordinary bus, you will see the fare chart fits on that ticket box lid hence there cant be too many stops. Also they have stages for the fare.

Unless someones wants to do Mumbai Darshan on a BEST bus , most mumbaikar's travel short distance or take limited buses.

[Abhishek901]

Originally Posted by sumant

koresh is probably right.They probably do represent the stop numbers Because I have noticed whenever i have purchased the ticket he usually asks which stop i got in the bus and which stop I am getting down and punches the corresponding number on the ticket.The tc then checks whether tickets are punched properly or not. dont know waht they do if there are more than 25 stops on the route.

Of course they won't ask you the group number as you are not expected to know that. If you tell that you want to go from stop A to B, then he will calculate (or probably remember) that you want to go from 16th stop to 43rd stop of the route, which should lie in 6th group and 15th group, so he will charge the price for (16-5) = 9 groups. Thats how ticketing works, otherwise it will be nightmare to calculate fares for every single stop (for example DTC's Outer Mudrika route has about 200 stops, all in Delhi). It's more like zone system but not precisely that.

[sumant]

The older kinglong buses are crap .The newer one are tad better as in less noisy but volvo buses are much better .if NMMT can purchase volvos .Why can't these idiots?

[ab041937]

NMMT is a government body. Has got enough public money in the bank to buy Volvos. BEST is a private org. If it can do away with a bullockcart instead of chopper it'll do it.

[Bombay Boy]

BEST is not private. its under the bmc

[sammyk]

Originally Posted by koresh

Once you tell the conductor, the destination. He refers to the route card on the lid of his ticket box, if he is not familiar with the route.

As far as I know, the driver and conductor usually work about 6 months on the route to prevent corruption.

Every stop is numbered, the conductor punches the number based on the stop number.

In the middle bottom of the ticket, the arrows refer to the to-destination on the left and from-destination on the right for the route.

The 9 digit ticket on the top is the lot number of the ticket, that is noted by the depot to check with sale of ticket and also for customer complain.The conductor notes the number at the end of the shift before handing his ticket box and fare sheet.

Ah yes, so I was pretty close.

Originally Posted by Abhishek901

I don't think these numbers represent bus stops as the numbers end at 25. What if there are more than 25 stops in a route ? These numbers should represent small groups of stops rather.

Actually the number ends at 26 but anyways, perhaps there are not more than 26 stops on a route? Either that or anything over 26 is a flat price.

[ab041937]

Originally Posted by Bombay Boy

BEST is not private. its under the bmc

Sorry about it. My mistake. But it is still an autonomous body with its own organizational structure.

[sumant]

MMRDA plans to build jetties
Ashley D’Mello | TNN

Mumbai: The Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) is pushing ahead with its plan to develop water transport on the east coast via the Public Private Partnership route by first developing jetties and then letting the operator run roll-on rolloff services.
Senior MMRDA officials said they will seek rapid development of transport from Ferry Wharf to Mandwa, which will shave off over an hour from the current time it takes vehicles to go from Mumbai to Mandwa.


http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Defau...Mode=HTML&GZ=T

[Abhishek901]

Originally Posted by sammyk

Actually the number ends at 26 but anyways, perhaps there are not more than 26 stops on a route? Either that or anything over 26 is a flat price.

Maybe these numbers correspond to bus stops but I am sure of this fact that ticket pricing is based on bunches of stops rather than individual stops in Delhi and I believe elsewhere. It is herculean task to devise and implement pricing mechanism based on individual bus stops.

[Indiadreams]

Originally Posted by sumant

The older kinglong buses are crap .The newer one are tad better as in less noisy but volvo buses are much better .if NMMT can purchase volvos .Why can't these idiots?

I guess it is because Volvo does not have CNG Version.

[sammyk]

Originally Posted by Abhishek901

Maybe these numbers correspond to bus stops but I am sure of this fact that ticket pricing is based on bunches of stops rather than individual stops in Delhi and I believe elsewhere. It is herculean task to devise and implement pricing mechanism based on individual bus stops.

That may be the case but it really doesn't matter as the ticket is simply showing where the passenger got on and is getting off. I figured the fare must be based on the number of stops in between, doesn't seem so "herculean".

[bharatiya]

I think in Mumbai the bus lines are more short routes, if you want to go farther you tak =e limited buses. So maybe there are never more than 26 stops? But that still seems unlikely. Go to www.bestundertaking.com they have info on all the lines there.

[niknak]

Originally Posted by sumant

MMRDA plans to build jetties
Ashley D’Mello | TNN

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Defau...Mode=HTML&GZ=T

This is GREAT news for Mumbai.

I'm really looking forward to the day where we can take a watertaxi to downtown Mumbai

[Abhishek901]

Originally Posted by sammyk

That may be the case but it really doesn't matter as the ticket is simply showing where the passenger got on and is getting off. I figured the fare must be based on the number of stops in between, doesn't seem so "herculean".

Herculean for the conductor. If there are 30 stops in a route, then every time conductor will have to calculate like this - 24th stop minus 6th stop = 18 stops and so on for calculating fare. And for that he has to remember all the stops with their serial numbers. But if the stops are divided in 10 groups, then his job becomes easier.

[KuwarOnline]

Abhi I really dont think.....this is very big task for them as far my own experience in BEST they dont even think much while punching the ticket.......I dont know how they work....how they remember.....but whenever see them doin it....it doesnt seem big task.....looks very easy...

[Abhishek901]

Practice makes a man perfect . It's an integral part of their job and they can't afford to lose time to start calculating when there are lots of people standing to purchase tickets. They have to remember and recall all that quickly.

[koresh]

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The conductor know the stops, its a daily route for them. He can punch twice, for example 20 and 10 is stop 30.

It very rare to have a route of so many stops in Mumbai and the patronage will be poor for such a route, BEST makes changes to such route frequently.

Example

363 Com. P. K. Kurne Chowk (worli) Mahul Village (Refinery)
was one such route, Starting at Worli, Prabadevi, Shardarshram School, Plaza cinema, Shivaji Park Matunga, Dharavi, Sion, Chunabatti, Kurla (East), Chembur Colony, RCF colony, Refinery.


There used to be very poor patronage on certain sections, they changed the route later. Don't know the exact route now.

[sumant]

Originally Posted by Abhishek901

Practice makes a man perfect . It's an integral part of their job and they can't afford to lose time to start calculating when there are lots of people standing to purchase tickets. They have to remember and recall all that quickly.

They have a fare list for that route with them attached to that dabba they carry .so i dont think they have to or are required to calculate anything.They may have to recall bustop names but they get used to it after some time.