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Old February 24th, 2010, 05:24 PM   #41
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Interesting series. But way too much photoshopped for my taste.
Why are you doing this to your photos, Jock?
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Old February 24th, 2010, 09:25 PM   #42
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The buildings are quite charming. The only disgusting and depressing thing in the photos was Goodison Park ... raze it to the ground if they want to start the revitalization process.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 09:51 PM   #43
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Having worked and lived in both cities I don't think Liverpool looks like Baltimore at all. Liverpool is ten times worse.
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Architecturally many of those buildings are quite nice, they just need to be refurbished.
That's what i think as well mate
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Interesting series. But way too much photoshopped for my taste.
Why are you doing this to your photos, Jock?
Normally i wouldn't do it , but i just wanted to give the photos an over the top look.
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The buildings are quite charming. The only disgusting and depressing thing in the photos was Goodison Park ... raze it to the ground if they want to start the revitalization process.
I couldn't possible comment
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Old February 25th, 2010, 11:32 AM   #44
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Having worked and lived in both cities I don't think Liverpool looks like Baltimore at all. Liverpool is ten times worse.
when did you work in Liverpool? The city centre has had billions pumped into it in the last few years and it has changed massively.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 02:35 PM   #45
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When it comes to architecture Liverpool probably blows most American cities out of the water.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 05:50 PM   #46
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^ one thing's for sure... there are a lot of misconceptions about US architecture. It's far more interesting and distinguished than the credit it's usually given.

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In any case, these are very interesting pictures. The sense of emptiness is palpable, as if a neutron bomb went off.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 05:53 PM   #47
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Interesting architecture is very relative anyways, it's not like there are universal standards.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 06:23 PM   #48
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^ That's plain wrong, as there are universal conceptions of beauty (i.e. proportions, golden ratio, level of details/ornamentation) - and so there's architecture appealing to anyone, with different grades of enthusiasm. Think about the Chrysler Building, Eiffel Tower, St. Peter in Vaticane or the Pyramids.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 06:52 PM   #49
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Looks very depressing.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 12:24 AM   #50
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Fantastic pictures, i like to see the gritty sides of a town.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 12:37 AM   #51
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^ That's plain wrong, as there are universal conceptions of beauty (i.e. proportions, golden ratio, level of details/ornamentation) - and so there's architecture appealing to anyone, with different grades of enthusiasm. Think about the Chrysler Building, Eiffel Tower, St. Peter in Vaticane or the Pyramids.
How were these "universal conceptions of beauty" born?
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Old February 26th, 2010, 12:47 AM   #52
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How were these "universal conceptions of beauty" born?
By our natural sense of aesthetics. Our eyes naturally tarry over details, ornamentation, focal points. We're able to sense the golden ratio in a building. The genius loci, the structure within its urban context, the ensemble effect - it's subliminally recognizable for everyone, even children. Add elaborate colour compositions, unique structural aspects and harmonious proportions - and you get a building no one would ever dare to dislike.

No one would ever tell you Prague or Rome are ugly cities, as they correspond with our universal human conception of beauty. While that's debatable for modernist cities like Brasilia, Le Havre or Canberra - those can also be appealing, but by far not everyone would agree those are beautiful.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 01:28 PM   #53
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Re: Eiffel Tower

I've never understood the appeal of it myself.

The Chrysler building is pretty 'meh' to me.

I don't think such universal concepts exist.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 03:13 PM   #54
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They do. I've chosen well-known landmarks as I'm short in time, there are unknown buildings that make the points more clear, like many castles, operas or churches. The aesthetical essence remains the same. But that'd lead too far for this thread.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 03:31 PM   #55
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Wow, I'm a bit stunned. I didn't know they had these kind of neighbourhoods in the UK. I mean, this is real Detroit-like. Too bad you gave the shots that over the top look. Thanks for sharing though.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 10:52 PM   #56
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I really do love this city from what ive seen. Rowhouse cities will always attract me

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When it comes to architecture Liverpool probably blows most American cities out of the water.
I don't understand why you would randomly pull the US into this - obviously from the title, its an American city in which is being compared, one which shares many architectural similarities to Liverpool. Did you just randomly take the opportunity to say American architecture pales in comparison to the UKs? Just wondering

Though I don't buy into universal beauty

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Wow, I'm a bit stunned. I didn't know they had these kind of neighbourhoods in the UK. I mean, this is real Detroit-like. Too bad you gave the shots that over the top look. Thanks for sharing though.
Detroit is more into the demolishing thing than just putting up boards, and of course Detroit was never a rowhouse city. It's very Baltimore-like and Philadelphia-like as opposed to Detroit-like i think
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Old February 27th, 2010, 06:07 AM   #57
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It indeed is, but Philly luckily isn't halfway that rundown.
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Old March 8th, 2010, 09:16 PM   #58
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Great photos! I used to visit a friend living in anfield quite regularly in the mid 90s, some of the neighbourhoods around there were just like this, quite spooky to walk round with derelict plots, boarded up houses, razor wire and broken glass on walls to deter criminals and 10 year old kids asking you to go into shops and buy cheap cider for them to drink.

These days I only really go to the city centre if I visit the pool which has had lots of money spent on it and is much better than it was back then.

Some of these streets and houses are actually nice and attractive, if they were in a prosperous area they would be quite desirable. The authorities should really try to retain and refurbish the best architecture when the areas are redeveloped but with the general population decline in Liverpool it might not be feasible to keep all the old houses.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 05:51 AM   #59
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Looks depressing... a very interesting perspective. Thanks!
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