Japanese Death Penalty

[Lostboy]

Is there much opposition (and growing opposition) to Japan's use of State Sponsored Judicial Murder, I realise that the Japanese have a very different culture to Europe and the West but State Sponsored Judicial Murder is the sort of policy associated with banana republics and tinpot dictatorships, not with rich technologically advanced nations.

[lumpia]

Originally Posted by lostboy

Is there much opposition (and growing opposition) to Japan's use of State Sponsored Judicial Murder, I realise that the Japanese have a very different culture to Europe and the West but State Sponsored Judicial Murder is the sort of policy associated with banana republics and tinpot dictatorships, not with rich technologically advanced nations.

Oh just get off your "high-and-mighty" pedestool of moral self-righteousness and live in the real world, will u! ur personal view isnt the only "orthodox" way for other people.. Just let the Japanese public oppose/support their own laws. After all, it affects them and not you...

It seems that by your post, you view the Japanese culture as being somewhat "weird" or "immature" in comparison to the "all-so-perfect" European attitudes:

I realise that the Japanese have a very different culture to Europe and the West but State Sponsored Judicial Murder is the sort of policy associated with banana republics and tinpot dictatorships, not with rich technologically advanced nations.

So u don't think that the Japanese people are "mature" enough to "realize" YOUR so-called "ideal" view on judicary matters, rite? Stop this indirect racial slander! Do you think that you are teaching the Japanese a "lesson" in advancement of civilization? People in Asia are not children who need to be taught by the "good old caucasian" how to behave or conduct themselves; their civilizations have been in existance for much longer than in the UK or Europe, so i'm pretty sure that the Japanese are capable of weighing out the pros and cons in this minor matter for themselves!

btw, technological-advancement has NOTHING to do with social issues! look at a country such as China, which has the highest number of executions carried out every year, and Singapore which has the 3rd highest! What can you say toward China: fastest growing economy on earth, already declared an MEDC by the world bank; and Singapore, Technological Hub of Southeast Asia? Do you say that they are "banana republics" due to your own personal (quite selfish) view on how things have "got to be"??

Just let the Japanese people view the matter as they please; dont pressure them to adopt ur views by your impersonal slander... わかりますか？

[Lostboy]

I don't really care who I offend with regards to my opinion on the death penalty. Don't give me that crap about it being culturally different there or here. Thats a fine excuse, but the way I see it, not having state-sponsored judicial murder should be as standard among civilised countries, if a country has it, I immediately question if there civilised or not. This is not European Values, this is World Values, and if this upsets the Japanese or Southern Americans, I do not mind. Its the barrier between civilisation and barbarity, despite what your angry anti-European, xenophobic post may imply.

[lumpia]

xenophobic?? truthful is much more like it: i was born in the UK so i of all ppl know the dismissive attitude Brits (especially) take when they look at other countries! they believe that the British way is the "BEST" way for ALL the world to follow (no matter how varied it is).. World Values?? for goodness sake that means Brits are no better mentally than Bin Laden, who wants every country on earth to be sum sorta Iranian like state, he believes that his Extremist values are "World values" too! I bet he has LOAS of criticisms on other countries different from his own as well! I say, let other people get on with their customs, laws and society and you get on with your own.. if they have a clear problem with it then maybe (only MAYBE) your place to criticise.. but if the people have no problem with it, its their issue, and you certainly have no right insulting them for whatever choice of laws they have!

Think of this: If your mother, wife or son was killed brutally by a man who raped her and then burned her to death then i'm sure than u will be thinking v differently on whether capital punishment is "barbaric" or not... u are just being self-righteous again.. a problem which plagues the UK's general Worldview today.. remember i was BORN in London, so i of all people know this isnt sum allegation!.. its only intelligent Brits who come up with the ultimate truth of "tolerance is the way to civilization's advancement, not condemnation".. if it wasnt for Britain's tolerance in the first place, there would be no different ethnicities, religions and cultures in the UK today! that wouldve been bad for the UK's civilised advancement, dont u agree?? so leave each country to evolve in their own different hues and in their own different ways... (amen )

[Rapid]

I accept the death penalty 110% because it will cut out buuulllshhitt crimes, like stealing cars and other things, such as graffiti.

Your lucky I'm not a person with direct power to adjust the law, or else I'd make the death penalty for anything above stealing a car. Anything under will be life.

[MILIUX]

How interesting...

Death penalty abuses one of the fundalmental principle in United Nation's Declaration of Human Rights. Such abuse is an international issue, not national.

Did you know China sentances 11,000 people on death penalty? They even have a portable injection room tugged with trucks so they can quickly inject or gun down suspected criminals.

It shows how ignorant Japanese people really are in terms of human well being and justice.

[Big Rick McGee]

In the immortal words of American Comedian Chris Rock..." They MUSTA done somethin'!!!"

If proper judicial balances can be put into effect (which I doubt has been done in China, and probably not in Singapore, either), I don't see anything wrong with the death penalty. After all, if you think about it, it's simply just the rest of society saying to its worst criminals... "If you commit the most the most heinous of crimes, we will take your life in exchange".

I don't think think that this exchange of ideas has not crossed the minds of even our most depraved killers.

My opinion is that perhaps the US applies it too liberally, and Japan, not enough...

Anyone agree?

[MILIUX]

The thing is what is "beyond reasonable doubt"?

How many juries out of 12 are needed to pass the verdict?

I think it is wrong to kill someone because their human rights have been taken.

Originally Posted by Matxvolta

It shows how ignorant Japanese people really are in terms of human well being and justice.

I do not think 'all' Japanese are 'ignorant'. We have quite a few human rights groups and activists. It is the government and its bodies that are not doing Japanese any favour with human rights issues.

Originally Posted by Lost Boy

Is there much opposition (and growing opposition) to Japan's use of State Sponsored Judicial Murder

Many Japanese are ignorant when it comes to politics. I don't think there is as much active political opposition compared to other Western democracies such as the US. For example, many Japanese prefer to learn about North Korea from comic books rather than read proper academic references.

Originally Posted by Lostboy

I realise that the Japanese have a very different culture to Europe and the West

Indeed.

Originally Posted by Lostboy

but State Sponsored Judicial Murder is the sort of policy associated with banana republics and tinpot dictatorships, not with rich technologically advanced nations.

I believe this is because of our culture. We do not put as much significance on individual rights. Japanese culture is more about 'group' identity. Unfortunately we have many corrupt politicians and corporate leaders who can make Japanese politics a miserable affair.

[dukkie69]

i agree with death penalty too. but in the fair way. if u murder someone with intention, then u have to pay for it with ur life, or at least lifetime jail. they deserve it, if they do that kind of stuffs to others, they should expect it to be done on themselves first. but if its unintentional, or more like self defense, like if some robber tries to attack u, and u accidentally kill him, then its fine. maybe jail for 1 year or 2. before thinkin about the criminal's human rights, think of the victim's human rights first.

[Blackraven]

Originally Posted by dukkie69

i agree with death penalty too. but in the fair way. if u murder someone with intention, then u have to pay for it with ur life, or at least lifetime jail. they deserve it, if they do that kind of stuffs to others, they should expect it to be done on themselves first. but if its unintentional, or more like self defense, like if some robber tries to attack u, and u accidentally kill him, then its fine. maybe jail for 1 year or 2. before thinkin about the criminal's human rights, think of the victim's human rights first.

I kinda see your point.

[LordMarshall]

i support the death penalty and calling the supports of death penalty vicious barbarians is an insult to us and the victims of barbaric crimes.

Why should a state pay for the housing of a criminal like Charles Manson. What about war criminals. What about those that took part in the Rwandan Genocide, or the Bosnian Genocide. You would let them sit in jail for a few years and then after good behavior let them out. What message would you send to future perpetrators? Go forth and kill and maim as many as you wish, we will give you 10 years in jail and then let you go. What about the victims of the Aum Shinrikyo attack in Tokyo you would let Shoko Asahara sit in jail and live off the state and tax payers. You call us barbarians but it is you who would in a barbaric fashion ignore the victims and their need for justice. Tell a child why the bad man lives and her father won't come home. Tell the husband the rapist/killer will go out in a few years but his wife is in the cold ground.

High goals for Paradise but live in the reality and see what man is capable to one another and then ask yourself if you will willingly tie your hand.

The Japanese are not uncivilized to still operate with death penalties they recognize reality and the fact that some criminals cannot be reformed.

[SkyDragon]

The death penalty is much different than the one in the US and other countries. I was reading accounts from those on death row, and they said there would be no warning as to when you were going to be executed. They would come, take someone out of their cell, and it would be the last anyone ever saw of that person. Then, families get called after the person is executed to come pick up the body.

I'm for the death penalty, but that's a bit ridiculous if you ask me.

[Manila-X]

As with capital punishment in Japan. Hanging is the prefered method.

Here is one of the execution chambers in Tokyo Detention Centre located in Katsushika-Ku.

Before you enter the execution chamber, you first enter a small waiting room. In the room is an small Buddha statue. What makes it interesting is the chamber itself looks like a corporate office.



Then the doors open



This is the execution chamber. The red square is where the convicted still stand up and be hanged.







Now, justice has been served!

Come to think of it, the execution chambers looks really nice but on the other hand, scary.

[Kimiwind1184]

The crime almost doesn't exist in Japan though. But, there is still some really crazy exceptions that grap the eyes of the folks and media. For example, just couple of days ago they found a head of a teenager in a vaccant lot in Hiratsuka.