daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > World Forums > Architecture

Architecture news and discussions on all buildings types and urban spaces
» Classic Architecture | European Classic Architecture and Landscapes | Public Space | Shopping Architecture | Design & Lifestyle | Urban Renewal and Redevelopment



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


View Poll Results: VOTE
Love It 28 27.72%
Like It 30 29.70%
Meh 13 12.87%
Don't Really Like It 18 17.82%
Hate It 12 11.88%
Voters: 101. You may not vote on this poll

Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old August 17th, 2010, 12:29 PM   #41
Sky_Is_The_Limit
Registered User
 
Sky_Is_The_Limit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 13,297
Likes (Received): 5649

__________________
Crown Towers Wilkinson Eyre | One Sydney Harbour Renzo Piano| Quay Quarter 3XN |

SYDNEY

WandaVista Hotel Kengo Kuma & Crone | York & George John Wardle | Darling Exchange Kengo Kuma
Sky_Is_The_Limit no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old October 4th, 2010, 05:18 PM   #42
Sky_Is_The_Limit
Registered User
 
Sky_Is_The_Limit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 13,297
Likes (Received): 5649

Barangaroo has attracted some international attention...

Lend Lease to Create Sydney ‘Midtown’ With New Financial Center
October 04, 2010, 9:42 AM EDT
By Nichola Saminather

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...al-center.html

Oct. 5 (Bloomberg) -- Lend Lease Group aims to lure financial companies to a defunct shipyard on the fringe of Sydney’s business district, creating a rival banking center.

Australia’s largest developer is spending A$6 billion ($5.8 billion) on the Barangaroo site, the country’s biggest project, 1 kilometer (0.6 mile) northwest of the city center. It will boast offices with almost double the area per floor of Sydney’s existing towers, making them better suited to trading floors and modern open-plan work spaces.

Redevelopment of the last available land parcel in the city will transform the “Hungry Mile,” where harbor laborers in the 1930s went to find work, into an alternative financial center similar to London’s Canary Wharf or New York’s Midtown. To do so, it will have to draw firms away from the Martin Place to Circular Quay area which today houses companies including Goldman Sachs Group Inc., UBS AG and Macquarie Group Ltd.

“They’re creating a new world down there,” said James Patterson, Sydney-based senior managing director at CB Richard Ellis Group Inc., the world’s largest commercial property broker. “The city’s got buildings that are ageing, so the design with the big floors, the environmental standards, that’s the next stage of where Sydney’s going to go.”

Midtown Manhattan, home to Times Square and the Empire State Building, has attracted firms including JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Citigroup Inc. away from their traditional Wall Street home. London’s Canary Wharf, also built on former docklands, has won tenants such as Barclays Plc and HSBC Holdings Plc since the first tower was completed in the early 1990s.

Awaiting Approval

Still, Lend Lease’s redevelopment, which will take up about a third of the 22-hectare (54-acre) site, isn’t without detractors, with opponents raising concerns about design, contamination on the site, transport and the project’s environmental credentials.

Lend Lease, which expects to start construction on the publicly owned land by the end of the year, is awaiting state government approval on changes to the existing plan -- including a 60,000 square meter (645,840 square feet) increase in floor space -- that will allow its proposal to proceed, said David Hutton, group head of development at the Sydney-based company. No date has been set for a decision.

The plan for Barangaroo South -- by Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners, which designed Madrid’s Barajas Airport and the Pompidou Center in Paris -- shows a fan of about 14 buildings, including three commercial and three residential towers on six hectares overlooking Darling Harbour, flanked by a waterfront promenade. A 40-story hotel with oval-shaped floors will be built on a pier jutting into the water, designed to evoke the ships that sailed into Barangaroo in its former life.

Public Spaces

The rest of Barangaroo will be split between cultural and public uses in the middle, and a park in the north. Barangaroo is named after an Aboriginal woman who opposed conciliatory talks with British colonizers. She was the wife of Bennelong, after whom the site of the Opera House is named.

The project will add about 300,000 square meters of offices and about 1,500 homes, with half the total area remaining public space, Lend Lease’s plans and the Rogers Stirk website show. The commercial buildings will have floors as large as 2,000 square meters each, said Hutton.

“Sydney is Australia’s financial capital, but it doesn’t have many relevant buildings for the financial services sector,” said Kevin George, head of leasing at Jones Lang LaSalle Inc., one of the brokers responsible for finding tenants for Barangaroo. “A lot of bigger tenants in the financial services sector in Hong Kong, Singapore, London, New York are taking buildings with very big floor plates. Barangaroo is able to provide those types of buildings in Sydney.”

Tenants, Vacancies

Lend Lease has received “serious commercial interest” for more than half the site and will announce three tenant agreements by the year’s end, said spokesman Greg Flynn.

Sydney city office vacancies will fall to 2.8 percent in January 2014, when the first Barangaroo commercial tower is scheduled to be completed, from 8.5 percent in July, according to estimates from real-estate consultant Colliers International.

Barangaroo will meet 40 percent of expected office demand over the next 10 years, Lend Lease’s Hutton forecasts.
Rents will be similar to premium towers such as Aurora Place, the Sydney home of Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc, and Chifley Tower, where UBS is located, said John Hickey, international director for office leasing at real estate company DTZ, also involved in finding tenants.

Companies pay net rents of as much as A$1,100 a square meter in Sydney’s most expensive commercial buildings, said George of Jones Lang LaSalle, the second-largest publicly traded commercial property broker.

‘Major Trend’

Companies including KPMG, Westpac Banking Corp. and PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP already have their offices in the western part of the business district and Barangaroo will draw others, Hutton said.

“The western edge of the city has started to see a major trend,” Hutton said. “Barangaroo will be the major contributor to accommodating that growth.”

The residential, retail and commercial mix -- a first for a major development in Sydney -- will see some 30,000 people living and working in the area and contribute A$1.5 billion to the New South Wales state economy every year, the Barangaroo Delivery Authority, which is overseeing the project, estimates.

Barangaroo’s green credentials are a selling point for Lend Lease, which is targeting a carbon-neutral development. The buildings’ design and its own alternative energy generation will cut emissions by about 80 percent, Lend Lease said, with carbon offsets and outside facilities compensating for the rest.

A waste treatment plant, recycling and offsite rubbish processing will help meet Barangaroo’s zero waste target and export more water to surrounding areas than it uses, Lend Lease said in an e-mailed statement.

Opposition

“The key criteria on a tenant’s shopping list is the environment,” DTZ’s Hickey said. “Barangaroo ticks all the boxes in terms of the credentials that a lot of the big employers in town, that their staff, are demanding.”

Not everyone is convinced. Chris Harris, a Greens party member of the Sydney City Council, criticized the carbon offset purchase and outside waste treatment plans and said the project is unlikely to live up to its environmental claims.

“Barangaroo will be a lost opportunity to do something that sets new standards and seriously addresses the climate- change impact of a large urban development,” Harris said in a statement.

Community groups have raised concerns about the release into Sydney Harbour of buried contaminants when excavation begins at Barangaroo, which is in an area that was a gas plant in the 1800s, and are calling for shorter buildings and no hotel. They’ve also questioned the likelihood that a light-rail extension to service Barangaroo will be built.

Legal Action

Ian Campbell, chairman of the Barangaroo Action Group, an organization opposing the project, said the group will take legal action if Lend Lease’s requests to amend the existing area plan and to begin work are approved.

NSW state Premier Kristina Keneally last week took direct control of the project from the planning minister, saying some groups sought to “derail” it. Sydney Lord Mayor Clover Moore resigned from the Delivery Authority last month, citing concerns about its transparency and lack of public involvement.

Starting excavation would enable the removal of contaminants, funded by the company’s payments to the state, Hutton said. A court case wouldn’t hamper the start of construction, he said.

Alternative Design

Philip Thalis, founder of Hill Thalis Architecture + Urban Projects, whose design won a global competition in 2006 and was subsequently replaced by Lend Lease’s plan, argued against the concentration of buildings.

“Lend Lease is proposing seven of the tallest buildings in Sydney in one enclave,” Thalis said. “What attracts people in great cities is the public space and where it is.”

The opposition is “mystifying,” given the need for such a project and the efforts to reduce its environmental footprint, said Aaron Gadiel, chief executive officer of the Urban Taskforce, a developers’ group based in Sydney.

“The project is unprecedented,” he said. “It’s a great opportunity to have a fully masterplanned site, almost with a blank canvas. Sydney’s CBD has evolved gradually over 220 years and it’s never had this luxury before.”
__________________
Crown Towers Wilkinson Eyre | One Sydney Harbour Renzo Piano| Quay Quarter 3XN |

SYDNEY

WandaVista Hotel Kengo Kuma & Crone | York & George John Wardle | Darling Exchange Kengo Kuma
Sky_Is_The_Limit no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 12th, 2011, 03:21 PM   #43
Sky_Is_The_Limit
Registered User
 
Sky_Is_The_Limit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 13,297
Likes (Received): 5649

This is the first of 7 x 100m+ buildings to be individually proposed for Barangaroo.

The concept plan was approved by the State Government back in December so it is really only a matter of time before all building envelopes are approved and under construction!!

C4
Architect/s - Richard Rogers, Ivan Harbour, Ken Maher

All pics from http://majorprojects.planning.nsw.go...n%20Report.pdf



Elevations (from left) from west, north and south



From north-west



Pretty good, huh?



My favourite view, the glass will be drool worthy
__________________
Crown Towers Wilkinson Eyre | One Sydney Harbour Renzo Piano| Quay Quarter 3XN |

SYDNEY

WandaVista Hotel Kengo Kuma & Crone | York & George John Wardle | Darling Exchange Kengo Kuma
Sky_Is_The_Limit no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 12th, 2011, 03:21 PM   #44
Sky_Is_The_Limit
Registered User
 
Sky_Is_The_Limit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 13,297
Likes (Received): 5649

And here are some more (including 4 shots of the podium which looks like hosting multi level flagship stores)

Some more renders;




View from West



View from North



View from South



Podium Shots



Some more podium shots

And from a different source...



http://www.barangaroosouth.com.au/C4...g/default.aspx
__________________
Crown Towers Wilkinson Eyre | One Sydney Harbour Renzo Piano| Quay Quarter 3XN |

SYDNEY

WandaVista Hotel Kengo Kuma & Crone | York & George John Wardle | Darling Exchange Kengo Kuma
Sky_Is_The_Limit no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 12th, 2011, 03:24 PM   #45
Sky_Is_The_Limit
Registered User
 
Sky_Is_The_Limit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 13,297
Likes (Received): 5649

And here are two more pictures of the APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN



http://www.barangaroosouth.com.au/



http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/gol...-1226004003507
__________________
Crown Towers Wilkinson Eyre | One Sydney Harbour Renzo Piano| Quay Quarter 3XN |

SYDNEY

WandaVista Hotel Kengo Kuma & Crone | York & George John Wardle | Darling Exchange Kengo Kuma
Sky_Is_The_Limit no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2011, 03:59 AM   #46
Sky_Is_The_Limit
Registered User
 
Sky_Is_The_Limit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 13,297
Likes (Received): 5649

Hey guys, need your help on this one!!

Barangaroo development and hotel poll on the SMH website...

http://www.smh.com.au/polls/barangar...cff8.html#poll

Looks like all the negative press has so far swayed people's opinions from previous SMH polls
__________________
Crown Towers Wilkinson Eyre | One Sydney Harbour Renzo Piano| Quay Quarter 3XN |

SYDNEY

WandaVista Hotel Kengo Kuma & Crone | York & George John Wardle | Darling Exchange Kengo Kuma

Last edited by Sky_Is_The_Limit; March 30th, 2011 at 04:21 AM.
Sky_Is_The_Limit no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2011, 06:17 AM   #47
CULWULLA
Registered User
 
CULWULLA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 62,760
Likes (Received): 10143

it has to be rigged
__________________
Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Sydney- 2020.. https://www.buildsydney.com/forum
CULWULLA no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2011, 09:52 AM   #48
Solopop
Solopop
 
Solopop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,113
Likes (Received): 99

I voted terrible. Anything to stop Sydney moving foward.
Solopop no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2011, 10:25 AM   #49
Dimethyltryptamine
Registered User
 
Dimethyltryptamine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 12,880
Likes (Received): 6445

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solopop View Post
I voted terrible. Anything to stop Sydney moving foward.
u mad?
Dimethyltryptamine no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2011, 11:24 AM   #50
Sky_Is_The_Limit
Registered User
 
Sky_Is_The_Limit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 13,297
Likes (Received): 5649



Are you surprised?
__________________
Crown Towers Wilkinson Eyre | One Sydney Harbour Renzo Piano| Quay Quarter 3XN |

SYDNEY

WandaVista Hotel Kengo Kuma & Crone | York & George John Wardle | Darling Exchange Kengo Kuma
Sky_Is_The_Limit no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2011, 12:04 PM   #51
Dimethyltryptamine
Registered User
 
Dimethyltryptamine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 12,880
Likes (Received): 6445

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky_Is_The_Limit View Post


Are you surprised?
I'm never surprised with Solopop. By far one of the most predictable people on this entire forum. I knew the second I seen that he had posted in this thread that it was going to be either stupid (tick) and have some anti-Sydney crap in there (tick)
Dimethyltryptamine no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2011, 12:48 PM   #52
Solopop
Solopop
 
Solopop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,113
Likes (Received): 99

You're just jealous because we're one of the most liveable cities in the world.
Solopop no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2011, 01:05 PM   #53
cjb287
Registered User
 
cjb287's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,057
Likes (Received): 50



You're embarrassing yourself. seriously
cjb287 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th, 2011, 01:11 PM   #54
Solopop
Solopop
 
Solopop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,113
Likes (Received): 99

Oh lord, I've embaressed myself, we must alert the church elders!
Solopop no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 31st, 2011, 09:03 AM   #55
swifty78
Registered User
 
swifty78's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 1,466
Likes (Received): 549

Yet if it were in Melbourne it would be brilliance...
swifty78 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 5th, 2011, 04:25 PM   #56
indosky
Registered User
 
indosky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,088
Likes (Received): 579

Quote:
Originally Posted by nameless dude View Post
I wouldn't be complaining so much about this design. Remember what we were all going to get






This:


vs our current design

The red steel building jutting out in the water looks like a bigger mistake than the toaster. Rest of the buildings could be little more imaginative.
indosky no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 5th, 2011, 04:32 PM   #57
Sky_Is_The_Limit
Registered User
 
Sky_Is_The_Limit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 13,297
Likes (Received): 5649


That's not what it looks like now.
It looks like this...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky_Is_The_Limit View Post
And we have changes to the renders!!

Main points to note;
- Buildings appear to be taller and thinner (less bulky) 200m+ for some?
- Hotel's height has been INCREASED (at least 180m?)
- Hotel has been grounded/connected with the base with squarer bottom















All images from Barangaroo South website
http://barangaroosouth.com.au/The-Design/default.aspx

I think that these changes make the proposal look GREAT!! Hotel appears less 'chopped' and more of a landmark building again. The weird and complicated base has been tidied up and simplified. The buildings at Barangaroo South have been thinned down with increased heights.
But the C4 Office Tower (shown earlier on this page of the thread) has a bit of variance to the scheme that is shown in these pics
__________________
Crown Towers Wilkinson Eyre | One Sydney Harbour Renzo Piano| Quay Quarter 3XN |

SYDNEY

WandaVista Hotel Kengo Kuma & Crone | York & George John Wardle | Darling Exchange Kengo Kuma
Sky_Is_The_Limit no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 6th, 2011, 08:05 AM   #58
Urbanista1
Here and Now
 
Urbanista1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,426
Likes (Received): 5284

Olivia Newton John could use it to film Xanadu II. Looks like many other developments of this type in Hong Kong, Vancouver and Toronto - lots of towers and density. It's main redeeming feature besides a nice skyline potentially is that it might add greater urban vitality.
__________________
ten rząd wstrząsa podstawami naszej państwowości i funkcjonowania społeczeństwa. Natomiast większość społeczeństwa śpi, nie zwraca uwagi, co się dzieje i trzeba je z tego snu obudzić - Piotr S


Warsaw Post-War Reconstruction to Present
Urbanista1 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 27th, 2012, 09:35 AM   #59
Sky_Is_The_Limit
Registered User
 
Sky_Is_The_Limit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 13,297
Likes (Received): 5649

James Packer (Crown Casinos et al) has unofficially proposed a $A1 billion casino/hotel for Barangaroo Central.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CULWULLA View Post
i think its height,design /location is fabulous
lets hope it gets up. packer has a lot of pull $$$
todays teleG

__________________
Crown Towers Wilkinson Eyre | One Sydney Harbour Renzo Piano| Quay Quarter 3XN |

SYDNEY

WandaVista Hotel Kengo Kuma & Crone | York & George John Wardle | Darling Exchange Kengo Kuma
Sky_Is_The_Limit no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 1st, 2012, 09:22 AM   #60
Sky_Is_The_Limit
Registered User
 
Sky_Is_The_Limit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
Posts: 13,297
Likes (Received): 5649

Here's a few more renders of the casino

image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


Via the Sydney Morning Herald

Apologies for the small size, can't seem to make them any bigger

So the proposal for a $1 billion 2.8 hectare casino has had mixed reactions.

Those in favour
- The Federal Tourism Minister Martin Ferguson
- The State Premier Barry O'Farrell
- The State Treasure Mike Baird

Those against
- The Sydney Lord Mayor Clover Moore
- The majority of online newspaper readers
- The majority of social media respondents

Those that have reservations
- Former Prime Minister and precinct 'visionary' Paul Keating
__________________
Crown Towers Wilkinson Eyre | One Sydney Harbour Renzo Piano| Quay Quarter 3XN |

SYDNEY

WandaVista Hotel Kengo Kuma & Crone | York & George John Wardle | Darling Exchange Kengo Kuma
Sky_Is_The_Limit no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu