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Old March 2nd, 2013, 11:48 PM   #1
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Artificial Intelligence

Artificial Intelligence is been experiencing gradual progression.

1997: Deep Blue defeats Garry Kasparov.

2007: As part of the DARPA Urban Challenge, for the first time autonomous vehicles have interacted with both manned and unmanned vehicle traffic in an urban environment.

2011, in a Jeopardy! quiz show IBM's Watson system defeated two greatest champions of the show.

2029: A computer will pass the Turing's Test according to Ray Kurzweil.

Many people are often confused by what intelligence is. It is not something that is acquired at any particular moment. There never was a moment in the history of human evolution when people became "self aware" - instead there are just different degrees to intelligence. In terms of General Intelligence, our best current AI's have just surpassed the intelligence of the most primitive insects, but in our life time we will see them surpass the intelligence of dogs, of chimpanzees and of humans.

Some of the most exciting developments in this field are, of course, the hiring of Ray Kurzweil by Google as the Director of Engineering, working on an AI personal assistant and the fact that driverless cars are slowly beginning to be introduced on public roads (Three U.S. states have already passed resolution to that effect)

Google talk on "How To Build A Mind" with Ray Kurzweil. This is five months old.
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So AIs will be able to take over the world...

But the personal assistant thing seems kind of nice having around.
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Is your mobile device taking over you or has it become the extension of yourself? The same applies to more advanced AIs.
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Is your mobile device taking over you or has it become the extension of yourself? The same applies to more advanced AIs.
Yes, they probably wont be able to really control anything or have a real purpose for it.
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Is your mobile device taking over you or has it become the extension of yourself? The same applies to more advanced AIs.
Mobile doesn't think and it is not aware of itself

Same goes for difference between a fly , a dog , a chimp, and finally a human
is a fly taking over you ? probably not but chimp might do that using force and they are quite aware of them self as dolphins are
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Mobile devices do think, so do flies, dogs, chimps and humans. AI will enhance our abilities to think, because we will be merged with them on an even more integrated level than we are merged with our mobile devices.
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Mobile devices do think, so do flies, dogs, chimps and humans. AI will enhance our abilities to think, because we will be merged with them on an even more integrated level than we are merged with our mobile devices.
So we will become like cyborgs?
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Mobile devices do think,.
no they don't they don't, they only execute what was programmed


so do fly's but we are talking about crossing the barrier of human conscience level with AI

and comparing it in any way to mobile is idiotic

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So we will become like cyborgs?
we are cyborgs already to" normally live" we need technology as well as food , shelter etc. we use technology to fulfil those basics needs

there is not going to be the point where you can say "now we are cyborgs"

as well as there is no point where you can say this being is intelligent and self aware
it is just a matter of point of view
so Artificial intelligence is false term
we can say it is Artificially created but what does this really mean ?
It is made from basic molecules so it nature

the only distinguishable point in history in my opinion will be passing the Turing test by computer

if it going to be intelligent it going to be intelligent same way we are
coz we define what intelligence is and what is not as we are are the only intelligent spices we know of

i hope i didn't fall to much in philosophy

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we are cyborgs already to" normally live" we need technology as well as food , shelter etc. we use technology to obtain those basics needs
Nothing is built into us, is it?

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A fictional or hypothetical person whose physical abilities become superhuman by mechanical elements built into the body.
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Nothing is built into us, is it?
how about
artificial heart
artificial eye
artificial leg
artificial arm
ear implant and many many more
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Nothing is built into us, is it?
and what does this really mean if it is going to be wireless connection with brain it's not cyborg but if there is a wire than it is ?
c'mon this term is very old defined by someone who could not have imagine what the future will be like
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So we will become like cyborgs?
To a greater extent than now, since I believe that we have already crossed that threshold now, as we rely on our artificial enhancers (mobile devices) to increase our scope of knowledge and processing power.
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no they don't they don't, they only execute what was programmed


so do fly's but we are talking about crossing the barrier of human conscience level with AI

and comparing it in any way to mobile is idiotic
To think is to process collected information and act upon it. That is what we do, that is what mobile devices and flies do. We are, of course, significantly more intelligent, but there is no such thing as consciousness, just different degrees of intelligence.
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we falling into semantic here
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To a greater extent than now, since I believe that we have already crossed that threshold now, as we rely on our artificial enhancers (mobile devices) to increase our scope of knowledge and processing power.
So the amount of intellect we hold depends on the amount and strength of the technologies around us? I still cant use any technologies on any tests I take, so I doubt that increases our human processing power.
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To think is to process collected information and act upon it. That is what we do, .
we process informations but we are self aware of it that what distinguish us from animals at this is what conscience is

denying it existence is silly

no other know being can do that except human

bringing back Neanderthals would be amazing
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For instance, I require constant access to great amounts of spreadsheets, which I couldn't possibly store in my natural memory. A mobile device allows me to supplement my natural memory with artificial memory to which I have constant access. Therefore, it is an enhancement of some of the functions of my brain. I'm sure that you have a similar personal example.
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we process informations but we are self aware of it that what distinguish us from animals at this is what conscience is

denying it existence is silly

no other know being can do that except human

bringing back Neanderthals would be amazing
If we were to break down self awareness to its most basic components, then it would become clear to everyone that every insect is self aware and so are, for instance, autonomous cars. When an insect avoids a fire, so it wouldn't die, it recognizes the physical boundaries of itself, which is what people refer to as self awareness. Consciousness is a very vague and ultimately useless term. An autonomous car avoids crashing into another car because it is programmed to avoid crashes, but that is what we do, when we plan our careers in a way that we will get the next promotion, at least that is our goal, and not Mr.Johnson in the next office, because our goal is to maximize our success, we have it programmed into our DNA. The fact that many animals don't recognize themselves in the mirror only implies that they have an inferior pattern recognition software and the capacity to process information than we do.
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If we were to break down self awareness to its most basic components,
you can't do that
the point of human self awareness is it's complexity

same for car a window and a wiper doesn't make it car

there are simple building blocks but you can make something totally different from them

only all parts organized in a certain way and working together make system





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Consciousness is a very vague and ultimately useless term.
llooooooooll that is the point of it, you can not contain in strict short science sentence
because human actions and humans brains are complicated
Abstract thinking is one of the main attribute of consciousness
there is no one single definition for all kind of human intelligence
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An autonomous car avoids crashing into another car because it is programmed to avoid crashes,
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will the car paint and sing
for it own amusement ?

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but that is what we do, when we plan our careers in a way that we will get the next promotion, at least that is our goal, and not Mr.Johnson in the next office, because our goal is to maximize our success, we have it programmed into our DNA.

if you have cave man mentality(low self awareness) and you let your DNA drive your life it will look like this


the more self aware ,conscience, intelligent(or whaeve term) you are the less likely it will look like this

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The fact that many animals don't recognize themselves in the mirror only implies that they have an inferior pattern recognitionsoftware .
dolphins, gorillas do
but yet they don't create art

and they don;t show higher abstract thinking

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