The Big Space Exploration Thread

[mic of Orion]

Originally Posted by chuck_nbc

All these private companies are trying crap NASA did 50 years ago.

they are at least trying, and its a positive thing to try, if you don't try, you perish.

[VelesHomais]

Yeah I don't expect private companies to do anything significant in space exploration within the next 50 years. It will mostly be NASA and towards the end of the century maybe the Chinese.

[mic of Orion]

Originally Posted by VelesHomais

Yeah I don't expect private companies to do anything significant in space exploration within the next 50 years. It will mostly be NASA and towards the end of the century maybe the Chinese.

nonsense, pan.

private companies will be taking over sooner than you think, i tell you this by 2017 you gonna have a nice space hotel in leo, virgin galactic will become major player in space tourism which by 2017 will be worth over 500 million euros per year.

by 2027 space tourism will account for 1.5% of total earth's tourism or in the region of 5 billion euros.

mineral extraction and exploration will be next big step, and i predict
commercial exploitation of moon by 2028. by 2050 private companies will dominate space related programs with NASA/ESA taking a back seat and specializing in exploration of Jupiter and planets further out, primarily science missions.

[Trelawny]

Originally Posted by bob rulz

It would only seem like 80 years to the people on the shuttle because of time dilation. To outside observers it would still be a hundred thousand years.

I also doubt the "edge of the universe" thing, perhaps he said "edge of galaxy"?

True it must be only The Milky Way Galaxy, since it is 100 000 light years across.

Hey question for you guys, how do we know there are more Galaxy's if we haven't been out of our own??

[mic of Orion]

Originally Posted by Trelawny

True it must be only The Milky Way Galaxy, since it is 100 000 light years across.

Hey question for you guys, how do we know there are more Galaxy's if we haven't been out of our own??

you mean galaxies...

bc we can observe them.

[chuck_nbc]

Originally Posted by mic of Orion

nonsense, pan.

private companies will be taking over sooner than you think, i tell you this by 2017 you gonna have a nice space hotel in leo, virgin galactic will become major player in space tourism which by 2017 will be worth over 500 million euros per year.

by 2027 space tourism will account for 1.5% of total earth's tourism or in the region of 5 billion euros.

mineral extraction and exploration will be next big step, and i predict
commercial exploitation of moon by 2028. by 2050 private companies will dominate space related programs with NASA/ESA taking a back seat and specializing in exploration of Jupiter and planets further out, primarily science missions.

"Space tourism" is not space exploration. Just because we have billions of airlines doesn't meant we have designed hypersonic commute planes. No private company is going to moon in my life time. That's an adventure with unbelievable amount of risk.

[VelesHomais]

Originally Posted by mic of Orion

nonsense, pan.

private companies will be taking over sooner than you think, i tell you this by 2017 you gonna have a nice space hotel in leo, virgin galactic will become major player in space tourism which by 2017 will be worth over 500 million euros per year.

by 2027 space tourism will account for 1.5% of total earth's tourism or in the region of 5 billion euros.

mineral extraction and exploration will be next big step, and i predict
commercial exploitation of moon by 2028. by 2050 private companies will dominate space related programs with NASA/ESA taking a back seat and specializing in exploration of Jupiter and planets further out, primarily science missions.

When I say Space Exploration, I mean scientific research. Sending out tourists to the lower orbit and even around the Moon doesn't interest me much, it's not exploration of anything.

It will certainly be overall beneficial in many ways to future exploration and colonization, but real exploration of exciting moons such as Europa, Titan, Enceladus, Io and Mars will be left to NASA for another 60~ years

[mic of Orion]

Originally Posted by VelesHomais

When I say Space Exploration, I mean scientific research. Sending out tourists to the lower orbit and even around the Moon doesn't interest me much, it's not exploration of anything.

It will certainly be overall beneficial in many ways to future exploration and colonization, but real exploration of exciting moons such as Europa, Titan, Enceladus, Io and Mars will be left to NASA for another 60~ years

for another 100 years, as commercial sector won't see any benefits in spending billions ...

as to everything else, small steps pan, small steps...

we need to learn to walk before we can run

[VelesHomais]

In 60 years I'm hoping that there will be huge private companies that made billions off of space tourism that will start investing in some space exploration, it may be beneficial to their commercial activities in a number of ways. Imagine a trip to Titan (maybe a bit far fetched, but something along these lines). Hopefully NASA and private companies could work together where tourism and science are combined.

[mic of Orion]

well that is quite possible, but i see more in terms of asteroid mining operations, but again this is at least 100 years in future, i am talking mass scale. once fusion engines are developed and are cheap enough for corporations to afford them.

[VelesHomais]

I honestly haven't studied on prospects of asteroid mining to comment.

Ideally we will have a global space agency, or at least one combining all western space agencies, including ESA, NASA, Brazilian, Ukrainian and everything in between.

[Teslatron]

Originally Posted by VelesHomais

Yeah I don't expect private companies to do anything significant in space exploration within the next 50 years. It will mostly be NASA and towards the end of the century maybe the Chinese.

Private companies won't do anything in space exploration for another 400 years simply because there is no profit there... Leave the exploration for the governments. This is all about actual commercialization of space, which is the next step after exploration and one step closer to actual colonization.

[VelesHomais]

No... eventually space tourism will start pushing the boundaries of the explored. Besides, tourism is not the only commercial activity possible in space, there's also infinite real estate out there. Commercialization and exploration will begin merging in 50 years in terms of space exploration: one will occur along with the other.

[bob rulz]

Originally Posted by Teslatron

Private companies won't do anything in space exploration for another 400 years simply because there is no profit there... Leave the exploration for the governments. This is all about actual commercialization of space, which is the next step after exploration and one step closer to actual colonization.

400 years is an awfully long time, I can guarantee that unless we blow ourselves up before then we will see private space exploration.

The most cutting-edge exploration will likely always be done by governments, but private spaceflight is advancing rapidly. Just a decade ago, many of these companies didn't exist, now they're making sub-orbital space flights and building heavy lift rockets.

[VelesHomais]

In 400 years Solar System is going to be our backyard

[2co2co]

Originally Posted by chuck_nbc

All these private companies are trying crap NASA did 50 years ago.

The most most important information is missing. We are talking about business here. What's the price tag?

[Trelawny]

Originally Posted by VelesHomais

In 400 years Solar System is going to be our backyard

But will people be going into the solar system to improve Earth, like mining minerals. Or will they be building future populations throughout the solar system.

[bob rulz]

Originally Posted by Trelawny

But will people be going into the solar system to improve Earth, like mining minerals. Or will they be building future populations throughout the solar system.

Yes.

[Trelawny]

Originally Posted by bob rulz

Yes.

yes to which one?

[bob rulz]

Originally Posted by Trelawny

yes to which one?

Both of them.