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Old March 4th, 2010, 05:33 AM   #21
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we're trying to make logical routes, not circulating and bypassing unneccessarly
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Old March 4th, 2010, 05:38 AM   #22
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Old March 4th, 2010, 11:27 AM   #23
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PS: Actually there is an even longer route than the one I mentioned in my previous post, it's the route from the Belgian border near Lille to the city of Tours in the Loire Valley. It's 475 km long, fully 2x3 or 2x4.

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Nice

Also A4 in Italy (in the routes I showed above) has a 40 km section 4*4

edit: from your map above I see there is actually a hole in the route in Paris: so it's not continous. Please recalculate. The same is true for the route through Lion. if there are few km with 2 lanes than it's not a continous route

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Old March 4th, 2010, 11:28 AM   #24
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Plus it continues north as 3 lanes to Glasgow, albeit under the name M74 once over the border. But it's the same road.
it doesn't matter if it changes name...what is relevant is the actual length of the route (logical route thought)
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does somebody know about Spain? i think it should be AP7. as far as i know it currently begins at Vidreres in north and ends in Salou in south (about 180 km), but they are working on widening. does somebody know if they have widened some more sections on this stretch?

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Old March 4th, 2010, 11:47 AM   #26
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Spanish traffic volumes are very low outside the bigger cities, especially the motorways on the Meseta which barely carry over 30,000 AADT. There are even Autovías with less than 5,000 AADT.
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Old March 4th, 2010, 11:51 AM   #27
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According to what I've measured, the longest 2x3 motorway in Poland has 22 km and it's a part of A4 motorway in GOP. Looks like this:

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Old March 4th, 2010, 12:03 PM   #28
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Plus it continues north as 3 lanes to Glasgow, albeit under the name M74 once over the border. But it's the same road.
Actually there's a gap of 2x2 non-motorway at Carlisle.

If its general route not specific to a single motorway, then Folkestone to Carlisle would be the longest in the UK, M20, M25, M1, M6.

About 620km.

http://www.theaa.com/route-planner/i...40244%7C555995

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For Germany:
If you are strict (no short parts with less than 3 lanes in intersections) it is this route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...6,7.064209&z=7
407 km

And it will be this by the end of this year:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...2,7.064209&z=7
555 km

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Actually I found out there is a longer 3 lane route in Italy, A4+A1+A14 from Turin to Rimini. 457 km

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/552/adriatica.png
OK,so short parts with less than 3 lanes in intersections are allowed!? (here and here)

Then it is this route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...3,7.064209&z=7
748km

By the end of this year:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...,14.128418&z=6
1117 km

And in the near future:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...18&ie=UTF8&z=6
1458 km
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Old March 4th, 2010, 12:31 PM   #30
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For Germany:
If you are strict (no short parts with less than 3 lanes in intersections) it is this route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...6,7.064209&z=7
407 km

And it will be this by the end of this year:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...2,7.064209&z=7
555 km

OK,so short parts with less than 3 lanes in intersections are allowed!? (here and here)

Then it is this route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...3,7.064209&z=7
748km

By the end of this year:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...,14.128418&z=6
1117 km

And in the near future:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...18&ie=UTF8&z=6
1458 km
When I talk about short sections I mean actual "route" sections (from one exit to another for example). Interconnections between highways are rarely the same amount of lanes as the highway itself (for obvious reasons)

So yes, please do consider intersections as part of the route and exclude "highways sections" of any lenght from the calculations

Also let's try to keep the route "logical"...also the A4+A1+A14 in Italy is not completely logical...that's why the longest is probably still the original A4 route i posted

The ones you posted seem a little bit illogical to me
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Old March 4th, 2010, 12:55 PM   #31
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Plus it continues north as 3 lanes to Glasgow, albeit under the name M74 once over the border. But it's the same road.
Yes this is funny. One motorway but three names on it. M6 from Cathorp ner Ruby to Gretna, A74 (M) from Gretna to Abington and M74 from Abington to Glasgow. Same motorway but 3 names and no reason to have those name on it. And I heard that Scottish government doesn’t want to rename the Scottish part to M6 like the want to do in London. And what I heard the Scottish part of this motorway is never going to be renamed to M6. I think this is only for the Scottish identity so there is no motorway in Scotland with English number. I think this is very funny.

But I think M6/A74 (M)/M74 is a nice motorway.
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In the UK the longest continuous route is 715km from Dover to outside Glasgow via London and Birmingham. There is also a 661km route from Exeter to outside Glasgow via Bristol and Birmingham. Of course, you could drive round and round in circles given that most of our motorways are three lanes in each direction.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&so...3,9.832764&z=7
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Old March 4th, 2010, 07:59 PM   #33
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Pretty much all of Belgium's highways have 3 lanes, but we're too small as a country to meet the lengths mentioned in here

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Pretty much all of Belgium's highways have 3 lanes, but we're too small as a country to meet the lengths mentioned in here

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you're twice wrong. there are 2 main 3+3 axis in Belgium, one is shown on the map, the other one is A7-R0-A1-R1 from Saint Ghislain to Antwerpen. longest logical route would be A4-R0-A10 Trieu - Jabekke - 181km.
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Oostende - Verviers would be longer: about 220 km.
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Old March 4th, 2010, 10:33 PM   #36
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in slovenia there is no real 2x3 highway. there are some sections on ljubljana ring, but there is no hard shoulder.

my personal favourite is italian A4 Padova - Milano. I travelled on that road thousands of times, I still enjoy it.



jap, I pasted the only tunnel on the whole A4.
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nope you havent 'cause there is another one behind that
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you're twice wrong. there are 2 main 3+3 axis in Belgium, one is shown on the map, the other one is A7-R0-A1-R1 from Saint Ghislain to Antwerpen. longest logical route would be A4-R0-A10 Trieu - Jabekke - 181km.
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My bad, I should have said "half" instead of "most". Me living in the middle of the country where it turns out that most the 3+3 roads are located has apparently given me false impressions.

Still, I think it's peanuts compared to most other countries.

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neah, i was also wrong cause i forgot about A3
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in slovenia there is no real 2x3 highway. there are some sections on ljubljana ring, but there is no hard shoulder.

my personal favourite is italian A4 Padova - Milano. I travelled on that road thousands of times, I still enjoy it.



jap, I pasted the only tunnel on the whole A4.
fascinating this piece with 4 tunnels: 2 for the autostrada and 2 for the superstrada of Vicenza
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