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Old December 18th, 2011, 10:13 PM   #281
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Old December 28th, 2011, 04:07 PM   #282
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I noticed mostly of train car in city operation like caltrain, metra, they use double decker car rather than a level car, and also the amtrak which operates for long distance are also bi level car, Also Base on my research the amtrak has also plan to replace all existing cars in the northeast corridor and it can be used in non electrified lines and the coaches can operate by push and pull operation just like in the existing metroliner cab, The manufacturer of this train coaches is the Nippon sharyo and the shop are located in illinois.
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Old December 30th, 2011, 11:29 AM   #283
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^For Amtrak they operate both single level and bilevel cars for long distance trains. Single level cars are only used on long distance trips in the East Coast, where bilevel cars cannot access the many tunnels they have and plus some of the catenaries where these trains must operate are too low I believe. Therefore all East coast trains going up and down the coast and from and to Chicago towards east coast are single leveled except Capitol Limited.
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Old December 30th, 2011, 08:14 PM   #284
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Which tunnels in NEC cannot be accessed by bi-level cars?

Boston and Providence is not a problem since MBTA sends bi-levels through them. Same for the North and East River tunnels (NJT/LIRR bi-levels, respectively). MARC runs bi-levels through tunnels near Baltimore Penn. Is the problem in New Haven/East Haven then? (Or is cat too low in Boston, since MBTA runs diesel bi-level)
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Old December 30th, 2011, 08:20 PM   #285
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Superliners are I think, bigger than ordinary bilevel commuter cars though.
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Old December 31st, 2011, 04:32 AM   #286
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Which tunnels in NEC cannot be accessed by bi-level cars?

Boston and Providence is not a problem since MBTA sends bi-levels through them. Same for the North and East River tunnels (NJT/LIRR bi-levels, respectively). MARC runs bi-levels through tunnels near Baltimore Penn. Is the problem in New Haven/East Haven then? (Or is cat too low in Boston, since MBTA runs diesel bi-level)
Superliners (the bi-level cars that Amtrak uses on their western long-distance trains and the Capitols) will not fit into Penn Station (NYC).

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Old January 2nd, 2012, 06:28 AM   #288
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It's kind of funny how antique that rolling stock looks in comparison with the station. Any plans for new trains?
Honestly I like the look of these old trains. I am sure their machinery is adequate, it is just the looks that make some wonder.
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 01:20 AM   #289
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My New Predictions for Ridership growth..

Lower Hudson Valley / Connecticut

Regional Rail

-New Haven line : 112,000 (2010) > 150,000 (2030)
-New Canaan Branch : 4,000 (2010) > 6,400 (2030)
-Danbury Branch : 1,400 (2010) > 11,500 (2030)
-Waterbury Branch : 800 (2010) > 4,700 (2030)

-Hudson line : 47,000 (2010) > 50,000 (2030)
-Harlem line : 45,000 (2010) > 80,000 (2030)
-Port Jervis line : 3,800 (2010) > 12,900 (2030)
-New Haven line Extension : 45,000 (2030)
-Hudson line Extension to Penn Station : 17,000 (2030)
-West Shore line : 50,000 (2030)
-Beacon line : 4,700 (2030)
-Maybrook line : 4,200 (2030)

-New Haven - Springfield - Brattleboro Corridor : 50,000 (2030)
-Bristol line : 5,700 (2030)


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-New Haven Network : 45,000 (2030)
-Stamford Network : 30,000 (2030)
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I don't know how they're going to have Danbury Branch ridership nearly double New Canaan without electrification and double-tracking. As for the Connecticut Company, that's not coming back.
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I don't know how they're going to have Danbury Branch ridership nearly double New Canaan without electrification and double-tracking. As for the Connecticut Company, that's not coming back.
There is Electrification planned , the key to the ridership doubling is the 2 restored infill stations at Georgetown and Wall Street (Norwalk). There are extra sidings planned also with an extension to New Milford.
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Ive been to kind to the Northeast , so were going to see my other Favorite Regional Railways in the US....to Metra Electric , yes the poles and tracks are be replaced with concrete ties and Constant Catenary Tension. The Stations are slowly being rebuilt also.

Metra Electric - 45,000 (2010) > 120,000 (2030)

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Interestingly, the entire METRA-Electric South Chicago line (the double-track line in the above images) is in the City of Chicago.

Also, METRA's 'North Central Service' diesel line into the north suburbs (uses CN's ex WC, nee SOO mainline) was only opened as a new service about 20 years ago. It is a very popular system for downtown Chicago commuters, as well as for daytrip visitors.

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Interestingly, the entire METRA-Electric South Chicago line (the double-track line in the above images) is in the City of Chicago.

Also, METRA's 'North Central Service' diesel line into the north suburbs (uses CN's ex WC, nee SOO mainline) was only opened as a new service about 20 years ago. It is a very popular system for downtown Chicago commuters, as well as for daytrip visitors.

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Well its not the only commuter line to serve inside the city to insie the city, LIRR Rockaway branch does as well, although it does go out to LI briefly before turning and coming back in to the city border.
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My predictions for 2030 ridership....,note that Regional Rail extensions to West Chester , Newtown , Reading and Allentown are factored into the 2030 ridership. TOD is a big factor in the other lines....

Southeastern PA / Northern Delaware Transit Ridership

Regional Rail

(New Hope) - Warminster line - 10,000 (2010) > 17,000 (2030)
West Trenton line - 12,000 (2010) > 15,000 (2030)
(Newtown) - Fox Chase line - 6,000 (2010) > 20,000 (2030)
(Reading) - Norristown line - 11,000 (2010) > 50,000 (2030)
Airport line - 7,000 (2010) > 11,000 (2030)
Chestnut Hill East line - 6,000 (2010) > 9,000 (2030)
Cynwyd line - 200 (2010) > 2,000 (2030)
Chestnut Hill West line - 6,000 (2010) > 10,000 (2030)
(Allentown) - Lansdale / Doylestown line - 19,000 (2010) > 50,000 (2030)
Trenton line - 11,000 (2010) > 25,000 (2030)
(West Chester) - Media / Elwyn line - 12,000 (2010) > 35,000 (2030)
(Parkersburg) - Paoli / Thorndale line - 23,000 (2010) > 45,000 (2030)
Wilmington / Newark line - 9,200 (2010) > 25,000 (2030)
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Well its not the only commuter line to serve inside the city to insie the city, LIRR Rockaway branch does as well, although it does go out to LI briefly before turning and coming back in to the city border.
and don't forget about the Fairmount Line in Boston and the Chestnut Hill East and Chestnut Hill West lines in Philadelphia.
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For the past few years, Amtrak's been displaying photos of their Keystone services being pulled by diesel/electro-diesel? Genesis engines in their literature. Should their pictures be updated, for I've just read that the line out to Harrisburg's now fully electrified?
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Opening and Construction Starts Planned for 2012

Good rundown of regional and local transit projects in the US & Canada for 2012.

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