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Old July 29th, 2011, 02:50 PM   #161
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Trenton line
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Levittown
Bristol
Croydon
Eddington
Cornwells Heights
Torresdale
Holmesburg Junction
Tacony
Bridesburg
North Philadelphia
30th Street Station
Suburban Station
Market East Station
Tempe University


West Trenton Line
West Trenton Transit Center
Yardley
Woodbourne
Langhorne
Neshaminy Falls
Trevose
Somerton
Forest Hills
Philmont
Bethayres
Meadowbrook
Rydal
Noble
Jenkintown-Wyncote
Elkins Park
Melrose Park
Fern Rock Transportation Center
Wayne Junction
Temple University
Market East Station
Suburban Station
30th Street Station
University City


Warminster Line
New Hope
Traymore
Ivyland

Warminster
Hatboro
Willow Grove
Crestmont
Roslyn
Ardsley
Glenside
Jenkintown-Wyncote
Elkins Park
Melrose Park
Fern Rock Transportation Center
Wayne Junction
Temple University
Market East Station
Suburban Station
30th Street Station
University City


Lansdale/Doylestown Line
Doylestown
Delaware Valley College
New Britain
Chalfont
Link Belt
Colmar
Fortuna
Lansdale
Pennbrook
North Wales
Gwynedd Valley
Penllyn
Ambler
Fort Washington
Oreland
North Hills
Glenside
Jenkintown-Wyncote
Elkins Park
Melrose Park
Fern Rock Transportation Center
Wayne Junction
Temple University
Market East Station
Suburban Station
30th Street Station


Newtown / Fox Chase line
Newtown
Holland
Southampton
Bryn Athyn

Fox Chase
Ryers
Cheltenham
Lawndale
Olney
Wayne Junction
Temple University
Market East Station
Suburban Station
30th Street Station


Norristown Line
Elm Street
Main Street
Norristown Transportation Center
Conshohocken
Spring Mill
Miquon
Ivy Ridge
Manayunk
Wissahickon
East Falls
Allegheny
North Board Station
Temple University
Market East Station
Suburban Station
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Chestnut Hill East Line
Chestnut Hill East
Gravers
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Mount Airy
Sedgwick
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Washington Lane
Germantown
Wister
Wayne Junction
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Suburban Station
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Chestnut Hill West Line
Chestnut Hill West
Highland
St. Martins
Allen Lane
Carpenter
Upsal
Tulpehocken
Chelten Avenue
Queen Lane
North Philadelphia
30th Street Station
Suburban Station
Market East Station
Tempe Unversity


Airport Line
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Terminals C & D
Terminal B
Terminal A East/West
Eastwick Transit Center
University City
30th Street Station
Suburban Station
Market East Station
Tempe University


West Chester / Media Line
West Chester
West Chester University
Oakbourne
Cheyney
Wawa

Elwyn
Media
Moylan-Rose Valley
Wallingford
Swarthmore
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Secane
Primos
Clifton–Aldan
Gladstone
Lansdowne
Fernwood-Yeadon
Angora
49th Street
University City
30th Street Station
Suburban Station
Market East Station
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Wilmington / Newark Line
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Churchmans Crossing
Wilmington
Claymont
Marcus Hook
Highland Avenue
Chester Transportation Center
Eddystone
Crum Lynne
Ridley Park
Prospect Park
Norwood
Glenolden
Folcroft
Sharon Hill
Curtis Park
Darby
University City
30th Street Station
Suburban Station
Market East Station
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Parkersburg / Thorndale Line
Pakersburg
Coatesville

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Downingtown
Whitford
Exton
Malvern
Paoli
Daylesford
Berwyn
Devon
Strafford
Wayne
St. Davids
Radnor
Villanova
Rosemont
Bryn Mawr
Haverford
Ardmore
Wynnewood
Narberth
Merion
Overbrook
52nd Street
30th Street Station
Suburban Station
Market East Station
Tempe University


Cynwyd Line
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Manayunk Upper Level
Barmouth

Cynwyd
Bala
Wynnefield Avenue
52nd Street
30th Street Station
Suburban Station
Market East Station
Tempe University


Norristown High Speed Line
Norristown Transportation Center
Bridgeport
DeKalb Street
Hughes Park
Gulph Mills
Matsonford
County Line
Radnor Transit Center
Villanova
Stadium – Ithan Avenue
Garrett Hill
Roberts Road
Bryn Mawr
Haverford
Ardmore Avenue
Ardmore Junction
Wynnewood Road
Beechwood–Brookline
Penfield
Township Line Road
Parkview
69th Street Terminal


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Reading Line
Sinking Spring
West Wyomissing
Wyomissing
West Reading
Downtown Reading
Lorane
Birdsboro
Stowe
Pottstown
Royersford
Phoenixville
Valley Forge Transit Center

Norristown Transportation Center
Conshohocken
Spring Mill
Miquon
Ivy Ridge
Manayunk
Wissahickon
East Falls
Allegheny
North Board Station
Temple University
Market East Station
Suburban Station
30th Street Station


Stony Branch
Lansdale
West Point
Center Square
East Norriton

Elm Street
Main Street
Norristown Transportation Center
Conshohocken
Spring Mill
Miquon
Ivy Ridge Upper Level
Manayunk Upper Level
Barmouth

Cynwyd
Bala
Wynnefield Avenue
52nd Street
30th Street Station
Suburban Station
Market East Station
Tempe University


Allentown Line
Downtown Allentown
Bethlehem Works
Hellertown
Coopersburg
Quakertown
Perkasie
Souderton
Hatfield

Lansdale
Pennbrook
North Wales
Gwynedd Valley
Penllyn
Ambler
Fort Washington
Oreland
North Hills
Glenside
Jenkintown-Wyncote
Elkins Park
Melrose Park
Fern Rock Transportation Center
Wayne Junction
Temple University
Market East Station
Suburban Station
30th Street Station


Newark / Boothywn line
Downtown Newark
Harmony Hills
Marshalton
Elsmere
Highlands / Wilmington
Northwest Wilmington
Arden
Boothywn
Parkside
Woodlyn
Folsom
Glenoden North
Collingdale
Darby North
Elmwood
Kingseeing

University City
30th Street Station
Suburban Station
Market East Station
Tempe University


South Philadelphia line
Naval Yards
Synder Ave
Washington Ave

University City
30th Street Station
Suburban Station
Market East Station
Tempe University


Norristown High Speed Line Extension
Valley Forge Transit Center
Valley Forge National Historical Park
Village at Valley Forge
King of Prussia

Hughes Park
Gulph Mills
Matsonford
County Line
Radnor Transit Center
Villanova
Stadium – Ithan Avenue
Garrett Hill
Roberts Road
Bryn Mawr
Haverford
Ardmore Avenue
Ardmore Junction
Wynnewood Road
Beechwood–Brookline
Penfield
Township Line Road
Parkview
69th Street Terminal


Cross Regional Metro
Malvern Transfer Center
Southeastern
King of Prussia
Hughes Park
Black Horse
Plymouth Meeting
Fort Washington
Willow Grove
Southhampton
Festerville-Trevose
Langhorne
Woodbourne Transfer Center
Fairless Hills
Morrisville

State & Calhoun Street
State House
State & Board Street

Trenton Transit Center


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Old July 31st, 2011, 08:34 PM   #162
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A little random, I think, but I had a question about PA's Keystone corridor. I know that they just finished a number of upgrades on the line, and that all of it is now cleared for 110mph service save for 3 grade crossings, all of which are situated within the span of 2 towns and are planned for regrading. But I can't find whether that's 110mph max or 110mph average, the latter of which seems more likely, particularly as it seems to be the plan for most "refurbished" lines (e.g. Chicago-St.Louis, D.C.-Raleigh). Anyone know one way or the other?
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Old July 31st, 2011, 08:50 PM   #163
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110mph average is highly unlikely.

Has that area got a FRA waiver?
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Old July 31st, 2011, 08:59 PM   #164
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110mph average is highly unlikely.
I think so too.

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Which? The Keystone Corridor, Chicago Hub, or south of D.C.?
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Old July 31st, 2011, 11:25 PM   #165
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It will be 90mph Average with 110 or 125mph Max.....
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Old July 31st, 2011, 11:28 PM   #166
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A little random, I think, but I had a question about PA's Keystone corridor. I know that they just finished a number of upgrades on the line, and that all of it is now cleared for 110mph service save for 3 grade crossings, all of which are situated within the span of 2 towns and are planned for regrading. But I can't find whether that's 110mph max or 110mph average, the latter of which seems more likely, particularly as it seems to be the plan for most "refurbished" lines (e.g. Chicago-St.Louis, D.C.-Raleigh). Anyone know one way or the other?
The Crossings will be removed sometime later this decade , its not one of refurbished lines...
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Old August 1st, 2011, 04:16 AM   #167
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110mph average is highly unlikely.
And you'd be right. It's just 110-rated, meaning 110's the fastest it's considered safe to go.
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Nope.

BTW, equipment will still be toaster push-pulls AFAIK.
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Old August 1st, 2011, 04:48 AM   #168
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In 2005, Acela's average speed over the NEC's entire distance was 71 mph; the graphic below breaks things down more. I'm not sure if Acela is faster today or not:



Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/24/national/24acela.html

By the way, the article from where this graphic came from is very interesting.

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IMO, ALL Acela track needs to be brought up to Euro/Asian HSR Standards. Not this half-a$$ed attempt at HSR. I don't know who's idea was it to put fancy looking trains on a 100 Year old corridor and call it HSR. You don't see other countries doing that, and I'm sure that if they do, they atleast bring it up to standard BEFORE the line opens.
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Old August 1st, 2011, 05:21 AM   #170
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Old August 1st, 2011, 05:23 AM   #171
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IMO, ALL Acela track needs to be brought up to Euro/Asian HSR Standards. Not this half-a$$ed attempt at HSR. I don't know who's idea was it to put fancy looking trains on a 100 Year old corridor and call it HSR. You don't see other countries doing that, and I'm sure that if they do, they atleast bring it up to standard BEFORE the line opens.
The Idea was to have an average of 120mph and the Acela was supposed to be an Faster Intercity service not HSR. But the Politicians like to play with words...
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As much as I'd like to see 186mph/220mph service between major metros, I just don't think it's feasible in the current political climate. I'm more than happy to see 110mph lines (assuming that's the average, not max, speed) if it diverts auto usage, and I think that frankly that'd be about the most we could expect within the next 10 years or so on anything that isn't new PDL. Not to mention that the idea behind these faux-HSR lines is essentially proof-of-concept for possible developments later on; we'd better hope that these lines are a roaring success if we want anything better.
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I don't see anything big happening in the US till the 2020s , then we will see alot happen. But for this decade we will see small things like Bridge Repaintings , wire replacement , Rolling Stock upgrades , New or Restored stations , small Railway projects (under 500 Million$) , and Misc improvements to signals and tracks..... Other then that i don't see much and the Rail Fanning community in the Northeast is sick of HSR , we just want Regional and Intercity Rail for the time being at least the next 20 years...
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As much as I'd like to see 186mph/220mph service between major metros, I just don't think it's feasible in the current political climate. I'm more than happy to see 110mph lines (assuming that's the average, not max, speed) if it diverts auto usage, and I think that frankly that'd be about the most we could expect within the next 10 years or so on anything that isn't new PDL. Not to mention that the idea behind these faux-HSR lines is essentially proof-of-concept for possible developments later on; we'd better hope that these lines are a roaring success if we want anything better.
California is the only PDL you should expect at this point in time. Texas, Cali, the Midwest, and the Northeast need PDLs. 110 is a good step in the right direction for most corridors, but I want more ambitious plans. We definitely need a strong mainline network. Once the corridor demonstrates ridership, then I think there will be a great willingness to fund improvements and speed increases.
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Current , Planned and Proposed Stations

Penn Line

Wilmington
Newark
Elkton

Perryville
Havre De Grace
Aberdeen
Edgewood
Martin State Airport
East Baltimore
Penn Station
West Baltimore
Halethorpe
BWI Airport
Severn
Odenton
Bowie State
Seabrook
New Carrollton
Union Station


Camden line

Camden Transit Center
Lakeland / Baltimore
St Denis
Hanover
Dorsey
Jessup
Savage
Laurel Race Track
Laurel
South Laurel
Muirkirk
Beltsville
Greenbelt
College Park
Riverdale
Coltage City
Union Station


Hagerstown / Brunswick line

Hagerstown
Williamsport

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Harpers Ferry
Brunswick
Point of Rocks
Dickerson
Barnesville
Boyds
Germantown
Metropolitan Grove
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Rockville
Garrett Park
Kensington
Silver Spring
Brookland
Union Station


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Boyds
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Gaithersburg
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Rockville
Garrett Park
Kensington
Silver Spring
Brookland
Union Station



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Riestertown
Owings Mills
Pikesville
Arlington

Penn Station


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Cherry Hill

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It continues to surprise me that MARC isn't interested in restoring commuter service to the Old Main Line (Baltimore-Frederick). Important as restoring rail connections to (especially Annapolis) may be, my guess is that the OML would offer the most bang for the buck.
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It continues to surprise me that MARC isn't interested in restoring commuter service to the Old Main Line (Baltimore-Frederick). Important as restoring rail connections to (especially Annapolis) may be, my guess is that the OML would offer the most bang for the buck.
Its to curvy and has a host of other issues to it.....
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Curviness isn't as major a problem when dealing with commuter rail, since the transit pattern is already start-stop every mile or two or so. Furthermore, MARC and CSX already have a working relationship (see: Cumberland Line) so the precedent's already there. Plus, even though the ROW itself travels through the Patapsco Valley State Park, it would serve the part of the Baltimore metropolitan area which currently has the least rail service...frankly, it would be a better new start than the (also-important) Westchester line.
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I hope they extend MARC to Wilmington.
The Wilmington-Newark sector is very busy, often standing-room only.
Having three railways operate that sector (MARC, Septa and Amtrak) should be a top priority for Delaware.
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I hope they extend MARC to Wilmington.
The Wilmington-Newark sector is very busy, often standing-room only.
Having three railways operate that sector (MARC, Septa and Amtrak) should be a top priority for Delaware.
They will probably have to do quite a bit of work before that happens such as quad tracking from Baltimore to just before Wilmington, add two bypass tracks as well. In fact, I am almost thinking Amtrak's NEC Master Plan should be prioritized since even when Acela gets off the tracks, that is only about 2-3 slots an hour maximum. However, NEC Master Plan states that most of the area will be at 100% capacity utilization by 2030.

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