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Old March 5th, 2010, 11:54 PM   #1
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Differences between English people and Welsh people

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I am preparing my travel to England and Wales. I would like to know what distinguish Welsh people from the English people. I know that English people has an germanic origin and Welsh people descend from the ancient britons but what I am asking is about way of living, attitudes, behaviours and other things on the day by day life.
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Old March 5th, 2010, 11:58 PM   #2
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Day to day there is little real difference, everybody speaks English, and as for ancestry it doesn't really matter unless you're some die-hard nationalist. Most people will have English and Welsh family anyway. Where are you going to?
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Old March 7th, 2010, 09:04 PM   #3
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Hi Viva,

It would probably be crude to try to highlight differences, as the two nations are 90% the same really. A rural village in Wales has more in common with a rural village in England, than with a Welsh city for example.

Some of the more obvious trends that are different though:

Politics:

The Conservative party tend to do less well in Wales, and the Labour party has traditionally dominated.

Sport:

Rugby Union is substantially more popular in Wales than in England. Rugby is probably as popular as football in Wales, whereas that is not the case in England.

Language:

All the signs are bilingual in Wales, being in Welsh and English. Most Welsh people speak English in a day to day basis, but nearly every welsh person knows some Welsh language, or there are certain words and phrases unique to Wales that define it more.

There are of course many differences, but there are as many if not more differences between parts of Wales, than there are between Wales and England as a whole.
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Old March 8th, 2010, 01:53 AM   #4
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wales for the last ten years has had it's own assembly government parliament so so things are different in wales compared to england especially in education and health. for instance in wales people get free prescriptions and free parking at hospitals
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Old March 8th, 2010, 05:58 PM   #5
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Day to day there is little real difference, everybody speaks English, and as for ancestry it doesn't really matter unless you're some die-hard nationalist. Most people will have English and Welsh family anyway. Where are you going to?
I am going to Cardiff and Swansea. I tried to book beds for the North of Wales but I couldn't so my travel will be these two cities and also to Birmingham, Oxford, Bath and Bristol.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 09:45 PM   #6
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when you go to Bath

go to this spa

http://www.thermaebathspa.com/
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Old March 10th, 2010, 09:12 PM   #7
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If you do ever come here to North West Wales - Welsh is much more popular with around 62% + of the population speaking Welsh, as I do! But Cardiff, I just love Cardiff - a fantastic city, nice cosmopolitan place to live - Looking forward to be at the University there next year studing Welsh!
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Old March 29th, 2010, 03:20 PM   #8
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O le dach chi'n dŵad yn wreiddiol yn y gog liam?
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Old April 1st, 2010, 08:11 PM   #9
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O Ddeiniolen - gobeithio symud lawr i Gaerdydd flwyddyn nesa' i'r brifysgol yna!
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Old April 2nd, 2010, 02:12 PM   #10
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I know that English people has an germanic origin and Welsh people descend from the ancient britons but what I am asking is about way of living, attitudes, behaviours and other things on the day by day life.
That's a bit of a lazy assumption, based on language, though one that a lot of people buy into. There's no significant ethnic difference between British nations. As has been said, for any supposed difference, there are probably ten or more things which unite us and even those differences probably don't strictly fall along home country boundaries.

If you're looking for the Welsh language, then North West Wales (the Gwynedd area) is the place to go. In many of the small villages in the area, Welsh is used as an everyday language, though they can switch to English for non-locals.
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There is nothing in common between the two people. The English are proud of their Germanic and are similar to the Icelandic, Germans, Alsacians, Danish, Norwegians, Swedes, Faroese, Flemish, Dutch, Frisians and Austrians. The Welsh have much more in common with Scotland, Ireland, Manx, Cornish, Bretons and Galicians.
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Old April 3rd, 2010, 01:39 AM   #12
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I feel like i live in the same country as a welshman, i see no difference in cultural heritage or whatever.
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Old April 3rd, 2010, 03:05 PM   #13
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I do see huge differences between me & Lostboy though; mainly on our relative grips on reality.
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Old April 3rd, 2010, 08:42 PM   #14
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There is nothing in common between the two people. The English are proud of their Germanic and are similar to the Icelandic, Germans, Alsacians, Danish, Norwegians, Swedes, Faroese, Flemish, Dutch, Frisians and Austrians. The Welsh have much more in common with Scotland, Ireland, Manx, Cornish, Bretons and Galicians.
The idea that the English are a 'Germanic' people as opposed to the 'Celtic' Welsh, Scots and Irish has been kind of blown away by the more recent genetics studies.
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The idea that the English are a 'Germanic' people as opposed to the 'Celtic' Welsh, Scots and Irish has been kind of blown away by the more recent genetics studies.
I am referring to culture not race. How sad that the Celts are the last people in Europe to judge people by their genetics and their blood lineage.
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I am referring to culture not race. How sad that the Celts are the last people in Europe to judge people by their genetics and their blood lineage.
I didn't say anything about 'judging'.

Besides, your idea of a 'Germanic' English culture or a 'Celtic' Welsh, Irish and Scots one is a nonsense. The English language, for example, is heavily influenced by French and very different to the other Germanic languages. And up until the 18th century, no-one in Britain or Ireland thought of their ancestors as 'Celtic'.

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O Ddeiniolen - gobeithio symud lawr i Gaerdydd flwyddyn nesa' i'r brifysgol yna!
Dwi'n nabod y lle yn dda. Mi fydda i fynd i fyny 'Elidir Fawr' yn fuan. Mae'n mynydd arbennig acos mae'n sefyll ar ei ben ei hun.

Bob lwc yn y de!
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Dwi'n nabod y lle yn dda. Mi fydda i fynd i fyny 'Elidir Fawr' yn fuan. Mae'n mynydd arbennig acos mae'n sefyll ar ei ben ei hun.

Bob lwc yn y de!
Iaith Gymraeg yn edrych fel Sweden neu Norwy
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I agree it does (BTW, I cheated to translate with Google, I only know a few basic phrases ).

As somebody has said above a Welsh village probably does have some similarities to some English villages, but I have to disagree when it was said that it has more in common with an English village than a Welsh city like Cardiff. IMO, Wales has it's own distinct feel when you're there, and the entire country has this feel; so I'd have to say a Welsh village has more in common with a Welsh city, than an English village. Just my opinion
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Old September 4th, 2011, 11:10 PM   #20
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Lived in Cardiff for 4 years, on the surface it seems mostly the same as any English city. Being a capital it's substantially better maintained and more cosmopolitan though, rare thing to see in a relatively small city.
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