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Old December 28th, 2010, 12:19 AM   #181
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Why did SA bother building Soccer City, if they already had this beauty?

South Africa is a very poor country so it may have been appropriate to just pancake another section of stands on top of another one. In America we would just destroy it and build something even uglier. Especially if it were a real jewel... that's really something my country would want to tear down.
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Old December 28th, 2010, 12:23 AM   #182
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This was designed to have a non alcohol section? To keep rival football hooligans apart? So you won't sneak over to the good seats without paying? The architect designed the stadium after a blooming onion he had as an appetizer at an American stake house?
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Old December 28th, 2010, 01:28 AM   #183
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This was designed to have a non alcohol section? To keep rival football hooligans apart? So you won't sneak over to the good seats without paying? The architect designed the stadium after a blooming onion he had as an appetizer at an American stake house?
Even crazier, that place was considered as the home of the Expos for a time!
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Old December 28th, 2010, 04:10 AM   #184
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There were a slew of stadiums that had this cookie cutter look. To me they looked like big concrete ashtrays. Philadelphia, Cincinnati, St. Louis, Atlanta, Oakland, Washington and San Diego had pretty much the same stadium. The Astrodome, Kingdome and Olympic Stadium were almost the same with a roof on top. They were all more or less ugly but common.
The Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum, Qualcomm Stadium. Looked nothing like Riverfront, Three River, Fulton County and RFK. Nor did the Astrodome, Kingdome & Olympic Stadium look alike. Not to me. Ugly? Maybe.. the same? No. Functional for that time in history? Yes.

By the way when Three Rivers opened it had something called Tartan Turf..not astro-turf.

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Old December 28th, 2010, 10:38 PM   #185
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Yes. I like new Wembley, but old towers should have been the ain part of the new design.
Removing them was the worst thing.
This stadium is at least twice the height of the old Wembley. They would have looked ridiculous if they were kept. They towered over the old stadium, they'd be dwarfed by a modern 90,000 seater:



Some photos of the New Wembley it looks like one of the most beautiful stadiums on earth, others it looks like a big lump of ugliness. The photo MeerkatCity posted belongs to the latter group.
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Old December 29th, 2010, 03:36 AM   #186
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Something like this would've been fine.

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What happened to the twin towers anyways? Were they preserved?
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Old December 29th, 2010, 12:49 PM   #187
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If you say so, I think that looks ridiculous! No, they weren't preserved.
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Old December 29th, 2010, 02:36 PM   #188
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Agreed. What would be the purpose?

Obviously it wouldn't be the main entrance, as if it were, it would mean that people would be entering it first, before going to another entrance, just to get inside Wembley.
If it weren't the main entrance, would it just be needless open gates to let people through? People would just try and bypass it.

So the obvious answer would be some sort of needless museum, that showcases the history of Wembley. It just wouldn't work, it would be like a speed hump on a road, effectively forcing people to just pass through or avoid it altogether.

Then you got the overall look, modern architecture just wouldn't match the old towers' facade.
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Something like this would've been fine.

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What happened to the twin towers anyways? Were they preserved?
In theory it would have been nice to have preserved them, perhaps as individual towers forming a sort of entrance, but in reality it just wasn't possible. The whole stadium shifted, and as can be seen in RobH's picture, required them to be removed.

I believe they were also not of a construction that would allow them to be dismantled and rebuilt elsewhere.
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Old December 29th, 2010, 04:55 PM   #191
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I think that looks ridiculous!
On the contrary, I find it quite elegant .. and that's exactly what the New Wembley lacks (elegant/classy touches) IMHO.
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I don't think it would look bad at all. We have a good example already

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Old December 29th, 2010, 09:40 PM   #193
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On the contrary, I find it quite elegant .. and that's exactly what the New Wembley lacks (elegant/classy touches) IMHO.
I agree that the new Wembley is a bit generic in terms of its details and its glassy exterior (though it is undoubtedly very impressive as you approach it from Wembley Park tube, especially at night), but I don't think retaining the twin towers would have added much or helped in that regard. I'd hardly describe them as elegent/classy structures anyway. They have a kind of nostalgic/kitsch quality, and of course for many they encapsulted the history of the old stadium including '66, but I'm not convinced keeping them would have been a good idea. I think they would look rather sad and a little pathetic dwarfed by the New Wembley, and Hia-leah JDM's photoshop only confirms that for me.

Each to their own though I guess. You went to Wembley when France beat us didn't you, so at least you're speaking from experience, even if I do disagree.
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Old January 8th, 2011, 12:06 PM   #194
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Ataturk Stadium Istanbul, hard to believe that it is not even a decade old.
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Old January 8th, 2011, 03:17 PM   #195
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I agree that the new Wembley is a bit generic in terms of its details and its glassy exterior (though it is undoubtedly very impressive as you approach it from Wembley Park tube, especially at night), but I don't think retaining the twin towers would have added much or helped in that regard. I'd hardly describe them as elegent/classy structures anyway. They have a kind of nostalgic/kitsch quality, and of course for many they encapsulted the history of the old stadium including '66, but I'm not convinced keeping them would have been a good idea. I think they would look rather sad and a little pathetic dwarfed by the New Wembley, and Hia-leah JDM's photoshop only confirms that for me.

Each to their own though I guess. You went to Wembley when France beat us didn't you, so at least you're speaking from experience, even if I do disagree.
I agree that keeping the old twin towers wouldn't have been much of a great idea, except integrating them into some sort of museum maybe or entrance gate aside the new Wembley as a memorial.
But implementing new, modern twin towers into the stadium design of the new Wembley would have been far nicer, far better and far more unique than this awkward gigantic steel arch, turning the New Wembley Stadium into some strangely oversized shopping basket kind of structure.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 07:56 PM   #198
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I really like the arch as it's a light and quite elegant structure, and a clever way of holding the roof in position without compromising on aesthetics (in fact, it ADDS to the stadium's aesthetics). That said, I wouldn't have been against a "reimagining" of the twin towers to match the scale of the new stadium as you suggest - though if done poorly that could result in overblown Germania-esque architecture.

The main thing which I'd change about the New Wembley's exterior is the endless glass exterior. It's pretty uninteresting and a bit of a dissapointment when you have the magnificent arch soaring above it.
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Old January 11th, 2011, 06:34 AM   #199
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In theory it would have been nice to have preserved them, perhaps as individual towers forming a sort of entrance, but in reality it just wasn't possible. The whole stadium shifted, and as can be seen in RobH's picture, required them to be removed.

I believe they were also not of a construction that would allow them to be dismantled and rebuilt elsewhere.
I took a tour of the old Wembley stadium where the tour guides let you sit in the royal box and visit the locker rooms. I was informed that it was a law that the twin towers could not be moved or destroyed by law. Obviously that can change.

I would love to have seen the towers used in the new stadium. They were so quintessentially British. The new Wembley doesn't look British at all. In fact it looks a lot like Madison Square Garden or the Spectrum in some ways because of the wrap around glass. The large arch makes me think that the building is still under construction. "When are they going to take the scaffolding down".
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percival molson stadium is nice, just small, much too small
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