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Old March 9th, 2010, 12:42 AM   #1
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Driving in Paris

Last two weeks, I was on vacation in Germany. I decided to spend 3 days to see Paris, so I started my voyage from Mannheim straight to Paris. Not just Paris, but the very Avenue Pierre 1er de Serbie which is in Paris, 75 somewhere between Arc de Triomphe and Tour Eiffel (we stayed at Hotel de Sers) I came to Paris from A4, so the pictures are in order of my arrival.

It was my personal greatest achievement in terms of driving because I have never driven in such a busy and famous location.

Approaching Paris on A4. It is Saturday afternoon.






We are heading straight for the city centre


I think it is somewhere right before Boulevard Périphérique




Still aiming for the centre


Hooray, we are inside Périphérique. The traffic is still OK.




The Seine is on the left


The picture does not show it good, but the traffic became very dense, ad all the scooter drivers took their chances millimetres from the cars. I had a rental car from Germany, so I was a bit worried to get scratched. Fortunately, I managed not to put a single scratch during the whole rental period.


We are lost due to poor navigation abilities of our GPS




It is Sunday morning. Going back to A4. Starting from the centre. The Seine is on the right.


The traffic was very light. I think this is Voie Georges Pompidou.


Quai François Mitterrand


As we drive away from the centre, the buildings become more contemporary.


We keep straight, and the road will become A4.



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Old March 9th, 2010, 01:04 AM   #2
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great! nice photos. I was driving the same route in Paris once (beside Seine) only, I didn't come from outside. although I might soon do that to.
Where were you staying in Germany? I guess you entered Paris at Bercy and then went straight ahead. although I don't understand how did you turn back for autoroute de l'est in Paris.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 03:58 AM   #3
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This is not the Peripherique, we don't see the Peripherique in any of your picture.
This road along the Seine is Quai de Bercy.

Look at closer this picture
You took the direction Paris center, the direction to the peripherique is on the left.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 04:52 AM   #4
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I think he ment just that he is inside the ring, it s a bit confusing though.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 08:09 AM   #5
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This road along the Seine is Quai de Bercy.
You are right. Actually, I have not paid attention what road I was on while driving because I was a bit overwhelmed by driving style of Parisians. What I did was going to google maps today to see the street names before posting this thread And of course, the street along Seine would have to change its name numerous time just to render me wrong here
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Old March 9th, 2010, 08:11 AM   #6
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I think he ment just that he is inside the ring, it s a bit confusing though.
Thank you, that was exactly what I meant. I just did not know how you Parisians call the city within the Peripherique ring.

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Where were you staying in Germany? I guess you entered Paris at Bercy and then went straight ahead.
I started driving to Paris from Mannheim, so I took autobahn 6 and then autoroute 4 all the way to Paris centre.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 08:27 AM   #7
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Not a lot of traffic congestion in Paris, I see.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 09:53 AM   #8
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Thank you, that was exactly what I meant. I just did not know how you Parisians call the city within the Peripherique ring.
Paris Only the urban area inside the Périphérique is actually the Paris city proper. The rest are slum suburbs and wealthy suburbs.


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I started driving to Paris from Mannheim, so I took autobahn 6 and then autoroute 4 all the way to Paris centre.
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Did you see anything from the U/C bypass at Reims?
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Old March 9th, 2010, 10:37 AM   #9
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To be technically correct - yes. However, A320 was quite short and served as a connection link between A6 and A4, so I omitted it.

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Did you see anything from the U/C bypass at Reims?
I did not really pay much attention because I was looking for speed cameras that were plenty in Reims I just remember the road work zone when passing Reims.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 11:01 AM   #10
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I think it is somewhere right before Boulevard Périphérique


Yep, it is this amazing interchange

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Old March 9th, 2010, 08:51 PM   #11
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We are lost due to poor navigation abilities of our GPS
If your GPS navigator took you there it badly sucks! This is Rue des Ecoles corner heading towards Paris' Latin district while the correct route was simply to follow the quays.

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The traffic was very light. I think this is Voie Georges Pompidou.
Actually this is Quai Henri IV, the Voie Georges Pompidou is the expressway underneath the esplanade on the right of your picture, but this part is closed to traffic on Sundays.


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Not a lot of traffic congestion in Paris, I see.
He was there on a Saturday afternoon which is OK traffic-wise, and a Sunday morning which is the quietest moment of the whole week. That is the reason, although apart from particular schedules (weekdays rush hours) we don't have to complain much compared with other metropolis.
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I noticed the GPS sometimes confuses roads that are very close to eachother. If I drive on a motorway with a local/express setup, it sometimes doesn't know if I'm on the local or express lanes.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 08:57 PM   #13
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Exactly, especially in this case where like I said, the expressway runs underneath the border of the street.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 09:09 PM   #14
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If your GPS navigator took you there it badly sucks! This is Rue des Ecoles corner heading towards Paris' Latin district while the correct route was simply to follow the quays.
That's very odd indeed. What address/street did you set as destination, Alex?
Is it possible the GPS chose an alternate route to avoid congestion? Otherwise, it really sucks.
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Old March 9th, 2010, 11:32 PM   #15
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Driving in Paris with not being used to the driving style of the Parisians can be quite a surprise . Living in Paris, but not being Parisian from origin, I also had to "learn" the Parisian way of driving. It's a quite agressive style, but you get used to it. It's almost necessary, for otherwise you're getting nowhere.

Scooters and motorbikes are a real p**n in the *ss. I drive to my work every day using the Voie Georges Pompidou (really nice by the way, if anyone wants to see some pics, I'd be happy to take a series and post it).

Concerning scooters and motorbikes: I generally ignore them, for they're usually not obeying traffic rules (like driving between the lanes). They'll have to watch out themselves.

By the way, if you consider the amount of traffic "heavy", then I'd like to know how you call it during the morning rush hours .

Concerning picture #8 (where you see the Ministery of Finances of Bercy): I hope you paid attention to your speed, for you just passed a fixed radar there . But well, I don't know how this works with a rental car...

Anyway, I hope you enjoyed driving in Paris
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Old March 10th, 2010, 12:47 AM   #16
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I would like to see photos of voie g. pompidou.

anybody knows about that? http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_au...ier_pour_Paris
The plan for highways inside Paris from 60s, but only the voie G.Pompidou was realized.
At the end you can read that political left of Paris would like to delete this expressway to.
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That's very odd indeed. What address/street did you set as destination, Alex?
Is it possible the GPS chose an alternate route to avoid congestion? Otherwise, it really sucks.
I drove to Hotel de Sers which is at 41 Avenue Pierre 1er de Serbie. There were several left turns so close to each other that I took the wrong ones, and the GPS then tried to get me back on track.

As for Paris not being congested on Saturday afternoons, for me it was even more congested than San Francisco during rush hours After driving in America for years, I was not used to such an aggressive driving style, but on the other hand it was a good experience. If I had to drive in Paris everyday, I guess I would eventually drive just like other Parisians.
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Great photos. Why are the lines in the first few photos yellow? Aren't they supposed to be white?
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That's temporary marking. As you can see, the arrows and distances are in yellow as well. It looks to me the lanes are particular narrow as well.
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Old March 10th, 2010, 06:38 PM   #20
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there have been some works on this stretch of A4 since last summer (repavement, heightening of noise-walls), hence the temporary yellow lines.
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