Cochin Discussions

[KMC]

after discussing and debating for abt half decade , the great Kerala Govt descided to find new suitors fopr Smart City....

Cant the youth in kerala kick these left commies and bury them underground...They only know 2 things in Life , either to oppose everything or Not to act on things ...

Kerala can still live with corruption , but inaction is very dangerous , in the last 4 yrs these commies managed to put state 10 yrs behind other states ...

If at all these buggers come to power , its only Kerala youth to blame ... Lets not become puppets in the hands of Politicians who are taking state backwards and backwards in terms of development

[sakrishna]

Originally Posted by KMC

after discussing and debating for abt half decade , the great Kerala Govt descided to find new suitors fopr Smart City....

Cant the youth in kerala kick these left commies and bury them underground...They only know 2 things in Life , either to oppose everything or Not to act on things ...

Kerala can still live with corruption , but inaction is very dangerous , in the last 4 yrs these commies managed to put state 10 yrs behind other states ...

If at all these buggers come to power , its only Kerala youth to blame ... Lets not become puppets in the hands of Politicians who are taking state backwards and backwards in terms of development

Absolutely right.

[vinod/kakka]

Should we get stuck because of Munnar or IceCream? Karunakaran sneezing or Veliyam moaning?

[DileepKS]

Yes, youth (which I doubt I belong) is very much to blame. But it is their choice. Look at ArunPR here. He is an IT pro, but (blindly) supports the communist party and its policies. I see a lot of net savy people around doing that.

USing the same computers that they opposed. IRONY!

[KMC]

Originally Posted by DileepKS

Yes, youth (which I doubt I belong) is very much to blame. But it is their choice. Look at ArunPR here. He is an IT pro, but (blindly) supports the communist party and its policies. I see a lot of net savy people around doing that.

USing the same computers that they opposed. IRONY!

The left comedians were the first to oppose computerisation and now they are running around for developing IT parks in each district , what a contradiction..

[arunpr]

Originally Posted by KMC

after discussing and debating for abt half decade , the great Kerala Govt descided to find new suitors fopr Smart City....

Cant the youth in kerala kick these left commies and bury them underground...They only know 2 things in Life , either to oppose everything or Not to act on things ...

Kerala can still live with corruption , but inaction is very dangerous , in the last 4 yrs these commies managed to put state 10 yrs behind other states ...

If at all these buggers come to power , its only Kerala youth to blame ... Lets not become puppets in the hands of Politicians who are taking state backwards and backwards in terms of development

Funny statments. Are you an agent of Congress/TECOM? Youth know about the activities of current government very well. If you dont know about the achievement, then I will tell you.

First I have a question.

Why are you blaming only the government and not blaming TECOM ?
TECOM have started discussions in the year 2002 and signed an agreement in May 2007 and not started any activities till now and you are still supporting them. Are you really an Indian or are you from Pakistan? You simply blame government. Do not mug everything written by media business men and write something.Why are you not blaming the companies for not starting these projects? No need of any more government support or assistance required for these projects.

- RMZ Kinfra Park, Kakkanad
- HDIL Cyber City
- TCS Campus, Kochi
- IBS Campus Kochi
- L&T Signature Tower, Infopark Kochi
- Brigade IT Park, Infopark Kochi
- Parsvanath IT SEZ, Chengamanad
- Unitech SEZ, Kakkanad

Govt gave all approvals and is there any work started ?????????? Its because of recession. Same is the case for Smart City also. TECOM has already invested 100 crores for Smart City in May 2007. They appointed consultant for master plan also, applied for SEZ - 246 acres. Central government did not give SEZ status for the whole 246 acres and gave only for 136 acres due to a river. Then recession came in by the end of 2007. Lease deed had to be registered to get the SEZ status for 246 acres. If the SEZ is for 246 acres, then TECOM cannot get free holding from the SEZ land. Due to recession and poor financial conditions of TECOM, they demanded for change in lease deed to give free holding before applying for SEZ for 246 acres. They stopped the master plan preparation also. Government is not ready for this, as government is very sceptical about the capablitiy of TECOM. It may create legal issues too. People might challenge this in court as it happened for HDIL Cyber City. They said that they will invest 1500 crores and after investing 100 crores, they didnt have the money to prepare a master plan. So government should cancel the agreement with TECOM asap. There are lot of business men from arab countries who are influencing the officials and stalling this project. Those business grps are not ready to give this project to any other company. Those grps are influencing government too. That could be the reason why govt took this much time to give an ultimatum to TECOM. Recession also cud be an issue. During recession, there was nobody else to take up ths project.

Now government should cancel agreement with TECOM and develop Smart City with the help of other private investors as the same agreement as TECOM(Already investors are ready) or should develop it in a way similar to TechnoCity Trivandrum.

Governments initiatives in IT and other sectors
---------------------------------------------------------------
IT parks - Koratty, Cherthala, Ambalapuzha, Kollam, Calicut, Kasargode, Kannur, TechnoCity. In this work operations have started in Koratty and it will start in next year in IT parks like Cherthala, Ambalapuzha, Kollam, Calicut. Work will start by this year in Kannur and Kasargode IT parks. All IT parks got the SEZ approval also.

http://www.keralait.org/search_resul...n_id=1&start=1 – See the details of Infopark. Other projects ………………………

Govt Initiatives
--------------------
Infopark expansion Kochi – Athulya & Phase 2, Cherthala, Koratty, Ambalapuzha Infoparks
Technopark expansion, TechnoCity, Kollam Technopark
Kozhikode Cyber Park, Kannur and Kasargode IT park
Govt is starting new PSUs as announced in budget.
Revival of loss making state PSUs

When govt started, there was a recruitment freeze in 2006. In 2007, Government has started recruitments in a big way. Most the departments are recruiting. Government has started lot of companies in the coperative sector to create more jobs like the Thriveni super store and Mithra stores etc etc. Government revived all the public sector companies too. Lot of young people are getting jobs here. Also major recruitments are going in Police force, Schools, Colleges, Hospitals etc etc. There are no recruitment freeze and well educated youth is getting multiple jobs in kerala. PSC list is ready for jobs in all sectors and the appoinments are going on.

Central PSUs
------------------
BEL – Kinfra – Kalamassery
BEML – Palakkad – Started – Govt is acquiring 900 acres more for BEML
Coach factory – Palakkad
HAL – Kasargode

Private Companies
-------------------------
IBS – Kochi – Gave land for IBS in Kochi
TCS – Kochi – Gave land in Kochi
RMZ – Kinfra – Kochi
Brigade – Infopark.
HDIL Cybercity – Kinfra – Kalamassery
Smart City – Infopark – TECOM

Most of the private companies have not started operations due to the recession issues. But Koratty Infopark is fully occupied now. It is really an achievement of Infopark. But construction of BEL centre in Kalamassery is goin on. Also BEML is functional in Palakkad now. I really thank AK Antony for his efforts to bring all these PSUs to kerala. Cities like bangalore got lot of advantages due to these PSUs.

[arunpr]

Originally Posted by KMC

The left comedians were the first to oppose computerisation and now they are running around for developing IT parks in each district , what a contradiction..

CPIM didnt oppose computer. During that time, they were concerned about the job losses due to computer and it is a concern about the peoples party.
Due to this some party workers opposed it and destroyed some computers. But party officially never opposed computer. Party was only concerned about the people who lossed jobs due to computer and party didnt ask anyone to destroy computers. But media tried to bring this as a big issue and trying to tarnish party. Do not blame the lefts for all.

You should understand one thing. Media(Various Business Grps) writes each and everything to destroy party as party always support people and employees.

Other parties were not attacked as they are not at all worried about the people. They are only worried about the business men.

[KMC]

Originally Posted by arunpr

Funny statments. Are you an agent of Congress/TECOM? Youth know about the activities of current government very well. If you dont know about the achievement, then I will tell you.

First I have a question.

Why are you blaming only the government and not blaming TECOM ?
TECOM have started discussions in the year 2002 and signed an agreement in May 2007 and not started any activities till now and you are still supporting them. Are you really an Indian or are you from Pakistan? You simply blame government. Do not mug everything written by media business men and write something.Why are you not blaming the companies for not starting these projects? No need of any more government support or assistance required for these projects.

- RMZ Kinfra Park, Kakkanad
- HDIL Cyber City
- TCS Campus, Kochi
- IBS Campus Kochi
- L&T Signature Tower, Infopark Kochi
- Brigade IT Park, Infopark Kochi
- Parsvanath IT SEZ, Chengamanad
- Unitech SEZ, Kakkanad

Govt gave all approvals and is there any work started ?????????? Its because of recession. Same is the case for Smart City also. TECOM has already invested 100 crores for Smart City in May 2007. They appointed consultant for master plan also, applied for SEZ - 246 acres. Central government did not give SEZ status for the whole 246 acres and gave only for 136 acres due to a river. Then recession came in by the end of 2007. Lease deed had to be registered to get the SEZ status for 246 acres. If the SEZ is for 246 acres, then TECOM cannot get free holding from the SEZ land. Due to recession and poor financial conditions of TECOM, they demanded for change in lease deed to give free holding before applying for SEZ for 246 acres. They stopped the master plan preparation also. Government is not ready for this, as government is very sceptical about the capablitiy of TECOM. It may create legal issues too. People might challenge this in court as it happened for HDIL Cyber City. They said that they will invest 1500 crores and after investing 100 crores, they didnt have the money to prepare a master plan. So government should cancel the agreement with TECOM asap. There are lot of business men from arab countries who are influencing the officials and stalling this project. Those business grps are not ready to give this project to any other company. Those grps are influencing government too. That could be the reason why govt took this much time to give an ultimatum to TECOM. Recession also cud be an issue. During recession, there was nobody else to take up ths project.

Now government should cancel agreement with TECOM and develop Smart City with the help of other private investors as the same agreement as TECOM(Already investors are ready) or should develop it in a way similar to TechnoCity Trivandrum.

Governments initiatives in IT and other sectors
---------------------------------------------------------------
IT parks - Koratty, Cherthala, Ambalapuzha, Kollam, Calicut, Kasargode, Kannur, TechnoCity. In this work operations have started in Koratty and it will start in next year in IT parks like Cherthala, Ambalapuzha, Kollam, Calicut. Work will start by this year in Kannur and Kasargode IT parks. All IT parks got the SEZ approval also.

http://www.keralait.org/search_resul...n_id=1&start=1 – See the details of Infopark. Other projects ………………………

Govt Initiatives
--------------------
Infopark expansion Kochi – Athulya & Phase 2, Cherthala, Koratty, Ambalapuzha Infoparks
Technopark expansion, TechnoCity, Kollam Technopark
Kozhikode Cyber Park, Kannur and Kasargode IT park
Govt is starting new PSUs as announced in budget.
Revival of loss making state PSUs

When govt started, there was a recruitment freeze in 2006. In 2007, Government has started recruitments in a big way. Most the departments are recruiting. Government has started lot of companies in the coperative sector to create more jobs like the Thriveni super store and Mithra stores etc etc. Government revived all the public sector companies too. Lot of young people are getting jobs here. Also major recruitments are going in Police force, Schools, Colleges, Hospitals etc etc. There are no recruitment freeze and well educated youth is getting multiple jobs in kerala. PSC list is ready for jobs in all sectors and the appoinments are going on.

Central PSUs
------------------
BEL – Kinfra – Kalamassery
BEML – Palakkad – Started – Govt is acquiring 900 acres more for BEML
Coach factory – Palakkad
HAL – Kasargode

Private Companies
-------------------------
IBS – Kochi – Gave land for IBS in Kochi
TCS – Kochi – Gave land in Kochi
RMZ – Kinfra – Kochi
Brigade – Infopark.
HDIL Cybercity – Kinfra – Kalamassery
Smart City – Infopark – TECOM

Most of the private companies have not started operations due to the recession issues. But Koratty Infopark is fully occupied now. It is really an achievement of Infopark. But construction of BEL centre in Kalamassery is goin on. Also BEML is functional in Palakkad now. I really thank AK Antony for his efforts to bring all these PSUs to kerala. Cities like bangalore got lot of advantages due to these PSUs.

Keep discussing like this throughout life , thats best the govt knows . By the way I dont support congress or tecom , all I want is action taken ... not the stupid crazy discussion around the issues for half decade ..
This govt is really incapable of running big projects ...
They know only Oppose things , debate , discuss , again debate , again discuss , then the party central team will take another stand , then go back and agains start discussing , debating

[arunpr]

Originally Posted by KMC

Keep discussing like this throughout life , thats best the govt knows . By the way I dont support congress or tecom , all I want is action taken ... not the stupid crazy discussion around the issues for half decade ..
This govt is really incapable of running big projects ...
They know only Oppose things , debate , discuss , again debate , again discuss , then the party central team will take another stand , then go back and agains start discussing , debating

You tell : What should government do with TECOM? TECOM is really a head ache for government now.

"Kaichittu irakkanum vayya .. madhurichittu thuppanum vayya" government is in such a situation...

You can also suggest a solution and send your suggestion to the CM.
http://www.keralacm.gov.in/submit_to_cm.htm

Similar situations happened in Bangalore also. Example is DLFs much hyped Bidadi township. Now DLF is going to take back the money they have invested with Karntaka government - 400 crores. TECOM also should ask kerala government to give the money back as DLF did. They are not doing that as they the have support of some stupid medias and some fraud business grps in gulf.

DLF did the courage to do that. TECOM also should show the courage and help the Kerala youth. Otherwise 246 acres of land will be idle for another 5-10 years as in 2002 - 2010.

Politicians, Organizations and media in kerala should encourage these kind of frauds like TECOM.

[DileepKS]

Originally Posted by arunpr

CPIM didnt oppose computer. During that time, they were concerned about the job losses due to computer and it is a concern about the peoples party.

Well, of course. Like someone said, "I didn't stab the man, my hands did."

I don't know if you are old enough to remember the anti-computer agitation. But I remember from the anti-tractor agitation. The statement that "CPIM didn't oppose computer" is an UTTER LIE.

CPIM doesn't oppose computers anymore, as the leaders tot Laptops around.

As I said, you guys always think 20 years BEHIND. It is part of the deal, which can't be helped. It is like the drug cartels in central america, Terrorism in Pakistan, Piracy in Sudan, Apartheid in South Africa, Nazism in Germany etc. Well, the last two have, thankfully, ended.

WE, the people of Kerala deserve this. WE vote them back to power every alternate cycle. WE, stoopidly thought the great VS is the saviour. WE are like this onlee.

[induzcreed]

what happened to Elbit-salarpuria project? or what what went wrong ...i don't see any news for quite some time.

[arunpr]

Originally Posted by DileepKS

Well, of course. Like someone said, "I didn't stab the man, my hands did."

I don't know if you are old enough to remember the anti-computer agitation. But I remember from the anti-tractor agitation. The statement that "CPIM didn't oppose computer" is an UTTER LIE.

CPIM doesn't oppose computers anymore, as the leaders tot Laptops around.

As I said, you guys always think 20 years BEHIND. It is part of the deal, which can't be helped. It is like the drug cartels in central america, Terrorism in Pakistan, Piracy in Sudan, Apartheid in South Africa, Nazism in Germany etc. Well, the last two have, thankfully, ended.

WE, the people of Kerala deserve this. WE vote them back to power every alternate cycle. WE, stoopidly thought the great VS is the saviour. WE are like this onlee.

One news about the Vallarpadom container terminal. Media always involve govt in Smart city. But not ready to praise govt for the activites govt has done in Vallarpadom project.
http://www.deshabhimani.com/Profile.php?user=149002

Read this too. As per other medias, statement will be - "Cummunists oppose private companies like ICICI"
This is the fact
http://www.deshabhimani.com/Profile.php?user=149005

In Kerala LDF comes alternate cycle due to the poor governance of UDF or "No governance of UDF".

UDF comes to power with the help of Media Mafias and Business Mafias (Eg : Real Estate Mafias). People are not getting any information regarding the good things LDF did. All medias are writing against LDF.

In 2004-2009, there was CMP (Common Minimum Program) proposed by left parties. Central govt got lot of support due to the schemes in CMP. Media presented as just a program of Manmohan Singh governments achievement.

This helped congress's victory. Poor people in India doesnt know that it was actually proposed and implemented with the help of lefts.

Media Maifas are always supporting congress and they esnure the victory of congress.

Read this - CMP
http://pmindia.nic.in/cmp.pdf

[KMC]

Originally Posted by induzcreed

what happened to Elbit-salarpuria project? or what what went wrong ...i don't see any news for quite some time.

Its buried underground , CPI central leadership is against Israel companies , we need to wait till next election when congress comes to power .
Same with sobha Hitech city ....

[DileepKS]

You had been constantly mentioning Media Mafia. Could you explain to us ignorant folks:

1. Who are they?
2. What exactly are they doing?
3. Why are they doing it?
4. With own media outlets, why CPIM can't do the same back?

[arunpr]

Originally Posted by DileepKS

You had been constantly mentioning Media Mafia. Could you explain to us ignorant folks:

1. Who are they?
Manorama : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayala_Manorama

"Malayala Manorama (Malayalam: മലയാള മനോരമ) is a widely read Malayalam daily with readership in Kerala, India, particularly among Christians,Muslims, Hindus and supporters of the Indian National Congress party in Kerala"

Many congress leaders like Oommen Chandy has got big share in most of manorama businesses. But it is not public and they will not admit this. Even manorama will not admit this.

Mathrubhumi : Veerendra Kumar & Sreyams Kumar (Real estate mafia). People who took control of the Janatha Dal party using money and destroyed its good leaders like PR Kurup.

Asianet : Rajeev Chandrasekhar, K Madhavan, KP Mohanan(Now he is with Jaihind - Congress Channel) - Strong supporters of Congress (Valuable business ally of Congress in state and centre)

Indiavision : Muneer(IUML), PV Gangadharan (KPCC & AICC member), Nikesh Kumar (MV Raghavans Son)

Mangalam : They have strong backing from churches(Another Business Grp)

Deepika : Church which means Congress and Kerala Congress


2. What exactly are they doing?
3. Why are they doing it?
They want to protect the interests of business grps who formed this channels. They are running these channels to destroy lefts, so that there will not be anyone to oppose them. So they are only interested in showing news which are used to tarnish the image of lefts and the leaders and the left governments.

4. With own media outlets, why CPIM can't do the same back?
Thats why CPIM has its own news paper and channel. Media mafias are trying to destroy this paper and news channel with false propaganda.

[arunpr]

Originally Posted by KMC

Its buried underground , CPI central leadership is against Israel companies , we need to wait till next election when congress comes to power .
Same with sobha Hitech city ....

See a media mafia created news !!!!!!!!!! Actual reason is

Critical environmental issues which could have been avoided at another location. The project involves only a couple of office towers and making up less than 20% of overall area, most of which is devoted to premium apartments.

This project is not an IT park or anything. Just a residential project. Added some office spaces to get exemptions related to the protection of mangrove forests and claims that it will generate 10000s of jobs (As TECOM claims in the case of Smart City). This is another real estate deal. Not an industrial project at all. Govt doesnt want to destroy the environment for contructing appartments for crorepathis.

[sakrishna]

Originally Posted by arunpr

Very few CPIM party people are there in the director board of Kairali TV. CPIM has got a limited share. They collected money from party workers and gave them shares.

Originally Posted by arunpr

4. With own media outlets, why CPIM can't do the same back?
Thats why CPIM has its own news paper and channel. Media mafias are trying to destroy this paper and news channel with false propaganda.

Earlier, You said that the CPI(M) doesn't own the channel but hold shares of it. Now, you are saying that it owns the channel. Which one of these should we believe?

Why is it that Kodiyeris' son has not got arrested for all the attrocities he did as a SFI leader? Why the 'ring exchange' ceremony turned out to be a marriage?

Even Kodiyeri himself repented for conducting the function lavishly, which is against the party's ideology.

Any answer about the arrest Binsih Kodiyeri had to face in Bangalore?

Also, Pinarayi's son married a girl from a rich family? (The girls parents own a Luxury villa in Tellicherry?. And inorder to show off that the wedding is not a luxurious affair, those who attended the wedding were given only 'Paayasam'?
Why Pinarayi and CPI(M) doesn't want to fight the Lavalin case legally?

Please go through the following news items.
Now you may say that all these are the creations/cooked up stories by the 'media syndicate'.

Kodiyeri’s sincere repentance

Bineesh Kodiyeri ties knot

Bineesh Kodiyeri arrested in bangalore

Any answer now? Pleas don't come up with the same stupid reasons again. If you've got anything new, you can reply, else don't. Anyways, we are not going to believe that also.

(Sorry for being off-topic)

[sudheeshnairs]

What is this Krishna? I just navigated to the link you provided for the Bangalore 'Case' of Bineesh Kodiyeri. Which all 'altoo- phaltoo' portals you depend on news?

See the language of the copywriters there. Seems they have not even got basic school education.

Home Minister of Kerela & Top communalist leader of Kerala, Bineesh kodiyeri is again trapped in prostitution case. He was engaged in Student association of India when he was going at Thiruvanathapuram for doing law.

Now he is working in UAE for a company. Bangalore Police was got arrest Russian Girl from a brothel central in Bangalore.

This foreign prostitute is from country russia and charge 15000 Rs. Per three hours.

News channel TV9 said that many laptops, photos, pen drives are found from that Russian lady. She has photos of Bineesh Kodiyeri. Before 6 months, Bineesh kodiyeri got married with a malayali girl Reneetha.

And who said he was arrested in Bangalore? The news link says so in the heading, but not in the news matter.

Personally speaking, I do not think Bineesh had done anything that much wrong to get in to the headlines, if he has F****d the Russian girl. Perhaps he can be legally correct if he proves that no 'monetary transaction' is involved. Consenting sex between two adults is not a crime in India. BTW it says she also had the photos of Bineesh. I wonder which man will give even his 'real name', let alone share photos with a 'prostitute'.?

PS. BTW I am not a member of communist party. I do not agree with some of their ideologies. (Perhaps you can label me as a Sangh Parivar sympathiser/BJP guy, but there too my principles clash with some of their principles. I am with Sashi Tharoor, but it doesn't make me a Congress man either.)

But when you choose between LDF & UDF there is nothing much to differentiate. Kerala owes a lot to the early communist movement for the egalitarian society it has.

I have also seen a comment saying because of the communists, Kerala is 10 years behind other states. That is an 'ignorant', bull shit statement.

Originally Posted by sakrishna

Any answer about the arrest Binsih Kodiyeri had to face in Bangalore?

Bineesh Kodiyeri arrested in bangalore

[sakrishna]

Sorry Sudeeshetta, I was in a hurry to post the news. But I've seen the news about the incident on TV once.

[DileepKS]

"They are out to get us" is a strategy used by ALL authoritative regimes, including the USA.

Soviets are coming: Cold War USA
Al Quaida is coming: War on Terror USA
Yankee is coming: USSR
Hindoos are coming: Pakistan Army

The so called Media Mafia is such a scam. It is not unlike the celebrities saying "my face is morphed" when videos of themselves in compromising positions surface. Of course the media are not independent or unbiased. None of them are. But the notions of them trying to hunt down and kill off the leftist organizations is pure victim play.

And why did you add Mathrubhumi in the list? It was redder than Deshabhimani. Oh, wait! Things changed! Veeran is persona non grata now. I get it!

And on one side you claim none of the business concerns that we KNOW belong to the CPIM aren't, trying to hide behind the veil of being "co-operative" and "people owned" etc, and on the other hand, you agree that they are, indeed owned by CPIM.