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Old March 17th, 2010, 05:48 PM   #1
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Travelodge Carrs Lane | City Centre | 7 fl | Comp.

Another Travelodge for us to... ahem... drool over.

Developer: Realis Estates Ltd.
Architects: The Harris Partnership
Agents: Drivers Jonas
Project managements: MWM Consultancy
Number of rooms: 88
Address: 25-31 Carrs Lane
Planning application number: 2010/01119/PA

For starters, here's a pic of what was on the site:


Demolished in 1988 due to severe structural failings due to very shallow foundations.

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Elevations and sections:








Notable floorplans:






Oh yeah, I forgot to say it's another Tesco.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 05:58 PM   #2
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No real issue with this. Simple and basic, if not a little bland in design, but investment into Dale End is needed badly, and might bring the gardens here into a bit more use. It also fills a vacant spot, in a less than prominent street.

Its relation to the gunsmith next door leaves a bit to be required however.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 05:58 PM   #3
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Not to mention yet another Tesco (if the images are to be believed)
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Old March 17th, 2010, 06:05 PM   #4
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I have no issue with this either. It really is just a simple design that doesn't really detract from any of the buildings around - in fact, I think the true wealth of the design may only come out once the Martineau Galleries development gets going.

The massing is fine, to me. Considering how difficult the last building found it, being located on top of a railway tunnel, they've certainly pushed this one to it's limits.

The materials seem OK as well. We've got rainscreen cladding for the majority of the facade - which is like typical cladding. But we've got glazed brick for some of the more prominent bits as well - which is a great colour too, and is tough get dirty! Render will be used at the rear, which I'm fine with.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 06:21 PM   #5
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Its nice, i like it, but theres a huge issue with the amount of peole waiting for the 33, X51 and 51 added a Tesco down there won't help either but its not to see this back street been looked at, i do like the design its a nice colour
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Old March 17th, 2010, 06:31 PM   #6
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I like the proposal. Nicely simple. Will be a nice spot too being a hop skip and jump from Moor Street station, a short walk from New Street and very close to HS2 site.

Does the tunnel cross the site? I thought part of the tunnel was under the road Erebus. I didn't think the whole site was over the tunnel.
edit:answering my own question and actually looking at the plan properly looks like half the tunnel under the building.

Be nice to see a building finally replace the demolished one and replace the supports to the building next door. As you say Erebus should tie in to Martineau Galleries and give that bit of garden chance to become a proper square.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 06:57 PM   #7
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Is it wrong to quite like this?
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Old March 17th, 2010, 07:25 PM   #8
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just a reminder:

*Target Locations for Travel Lodge as of feb 2010*

Min beds/Max beds

Birmingham Airport 100/200 West Midlands approved
Birmingham Central 80/100 West Midlands now proposed
Birmingham Edgbaston / Selly Oak 50/80 West Midlands
Birmingham South (M42/A435) 50/60 West Midlands
Bromsgrove 50/70 Worcestershire
Longbridge 50/70 West Midlands
Malvern 45/53 Hereford & Worcester
Selly Oak/Harborne/Bournville 50/60 West Midlands
Solihull (M42 corridor)/Shirley 60/100 West Midlands
Sutton Coldfield 45/53 West Midlands
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I like this a lot. It looks good, will cover a current eyesore building side and unused area, and will be very well utilised.
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It's a shame it has to come with the compulsory Tesco but I like the rest of the proposal. It would be good if more was made of that little green area.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 08:09 PM   #11
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^ the green is part of the galleries application
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Old March 17th, 2010, 08:13 PM   #12
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im actually liking this scheme too which scares me...

if im thinking of the right site, the gable elevation to the gunsmiths is currently propped up and the site looks a mess!

this should tidy up the site, activate the small green space infront of it, and provid emuch needed activity in an each which at night isnt nice!
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Old March 17th, 2010, 08:13 PM   #13
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Is it wrong to quite like this?
And to think I use to think you were kwel. You changed.

It's 'orible.

A building needs to go there, but that horrid grey panel cladding, GET TO FECK!
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Old March 17th, 2010, 08:16 PM   #14
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^ the green is part of the galleries application
Nah it's not. The MG application area runs up to and including the McDonalds building, with the delivery area and road running to it (the one that comes off Albert Street) forming the boundary.

I think the green is pretty safe as it is. Not too sure who owns it though... the council probably. If not, the church.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 08:22 PM   #15
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i really like this too
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My mate works for Premier Inn at Great Park and he said travel lodge were looking at a site across the road from the new bournville college, for those that know the area they were apparently looking at the listed tickets and parcels building to incorporate into the building.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 08:23 PM   #16
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to erebus: nop it defo is, part of a section 106
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Old March 17th, 2010, 08:37 PM   #17
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It's just the cladding i dont like - the scheme as a whole is a good piece of urban design* and architecturally it's just the damn dull grey cladding!!!


* See Woody's excellant definiton of the difference between urban design and architecture elsewhere
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Thumbs up from me too.

It's got a feel of Rhubarb about it which I like.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 09:05 PM   #19
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Curse the cladding. At least it's not generic grey that adorns the Jewellery Quarter.

It's so bland I don't really have an opinion.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 09:23 PM   #20
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It's great that this area is going to be filled in with a new building but couldn't the architects have rebuilt the facade on Carrs Lane in brick as a tribute to what was there before??? It wouldn't take much but obviously grey plastic is so much cheaper!!
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