LA's Urban, Metro Area Comparison

[klamedia]

Preach!

[dweebo2220]

from "Liveable Places"

[LosAngelesSportsFan]

great map, but the numbers seem a bit dated. i cant wait for the new census numbers. we are going to have a shitload of fun deciphering them.

[Westsidelife]

Originally Posted by klamedia

I researched that over and over again. If you include the reported 33,000 sq miles that would include the reported CSA you are also including parts of Death Valley and the Mojave Desert. No one lives there and they only include that land area because of the huge size of both SB and Riverside counties. In contrast the NYC CSA crosses state boundaries with no regard to lines drawn on a map. I felt it would be misleading to report 33,000 sq miles where sizable parts are non-inhabitable by humans. This is what I found interesting about the MSA's and CSA's of LA and NY by comparison.

I'm not saying we should count the whole 33,000 square miles. But Los Angeles and Orange Counties combined come out to 4,850 square miles. That's the MSA.

[klamedia]

See "dweeb"s post above.

[Westsidelife]

^ Urban areas are completely different than MSAs/CSAs. It's simple:

Los Angeles County: 4,061 square miles
Orange County: 789 square miles

That all adds up to, yes, 4,850 square miles. Does that mean anything to you? I hardly think it's just some coincidence. It's the MSA, not the urban area.

[klamedia]

We know this "westy". We've been over this so many times over the past 5 years that we're shitting blood. My point was.....nevermind. You know what my point was.

[Westsidelife]

^ No, I don't know what your point was. Are you using urban area, MSA, or CSA? I'm confused.

[Kenny]

Originally Posted by klamedia

Why in the world would you refer to the entire geographical area when you were specifically talking about city boundaries???? You mentioned the 5 boroughs which means that you were referring to NYC. So what you are saying is that you were referring to NYC while NOT referring to the City Of Los Angeles which is like comparing testicles to mushrooms.
Strange at best.
And as I stated previously a difference of 50 square miles is not "almost". You couldn't fit NYC inside of the San Fernando Valley(City Of LA portion) if you stroked its hair and told it "I could get it in if you'd just take a deep breath and relax".

You've got serious issues.

[koolkid]

Staten Island doesn't even exist, according to that recent map...

[milquetoast]

Originally Posted by dweebo2220

Yeah, from here I can see areas that are seperated by rivers and state lines, and I can also see a metropolitan or agglomeration having its "agglomerations" cut and divided FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN POLITICAL WEAKNESS!

We ought to go ahead and just include the Oxnard area as well as San Diego and, at the very least, the eastern San Bernardino area.

The illustration above leaves out a lot. For us.

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Here's my illustration:

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This is 40 miles east of Manhattan:

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This is 50 miles east of Downtown L A:

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This is 40 miles west of Downtown L A:

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This is 40 miles west of Manhattan in New Jersey:

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Why aren't these gridlike urban areas not included in L A?

[milquetoast]

Originally Posted by koolkid

Staten Island doesn't even exist, according to that recent map...

True! Apparently "Liveable Places" needs a little help.

[Kenny]

You're exposing the truth Milque

[milquetoast]

Enquiring minds want to know

[klamedia]

Originally Posted by Westsidelife

^ No, I don't know what your point was. Are you using urban area, MSA, or CSA? I'm confused.

You too?

[heywindup]

To end the confusion, why don't we just compare it by county?

New York County:
Area
- Total: 33.77 sq mi (87.5 km2)
- Land: 22.96 sq mi (59.5 km2)
- Water: 10.81 sq mi (28 km2)

Population
- Total: 1,629,054
- Density: 70,951/sq mi (27,394.3/km2)

Los Angeles County:
Area
- Total: 4,752 sq mi (12,308 km2)
- Land: 4,061 sq mi (10,518 km2)
- Water: 691 sq mi (1,790 km2)

Population
- Total: 9,862,049 (2008 estimate)
- Density: 2,427 /sq mi (937 /km2)

[pesto]

so now we're comparing Manhattan with LA County? I would guess we win on mountains.

[Westsidelife]

^ No, we win because we have Catalina Island.

[klamedia]

Originally Posted by heywindup

To end the confusion, why don't we just compare it by county?

New York County:
Area
- Total: 33.77 sq mi (87.5 km2)
- Land: 22.96 sq mi (59.5 km2)
- Water: 10.81 sq mi (28 km2)

Population
- Total: 1,629,054
- Density: 70,951/sq mi (27,394.3/km2)

Los Angeles County:
Area
- Total: 4,752 sq mi (12,308 km2)
- Land: 4,061 sq mi (10,518 km2)
- Water: 691 sq mi (1,790 km2)

Population
- Total: 9,862,049 (2008 estimate)
- Density: 2,427 /sq mi (937 /km2)

[kalibob32]

sure, it all comes down to the geographical features of a region...
obviously from space, LAmetro is gonna look really clearly defined for the most part - once you get to the other side of the san gab mtns, things being looking murky (& will get murkier into the future)