Mumbai Discussions

[Bombay Boy]

bkc cant build tall. unless you shut down the airport

the only real bet is worli-parel and then later on maybe the port land

[IchimaruGin1]

Originally Posted by Bombay Boy

bkc cant build tall. unless you shut down the airport

the only real bet is worli-parel and then later on maybe the port land

hmm it has 370 hectres. thats more than enough for the next 20 years

[Bombay Boy]

ey? you still cant build tall. its next to the airport

it may become the biggest financial district in the city (if it isnt already), but thats not what is being argued

[IchimaruGin1]

Originally Posted by Bombay Boy

ey? you still cant build tall. its next to the airport

it may become the biggest financial district in the city (if it isnt already), but thats not what is being argued

hmm building tall is a means to an end. Tall building = supposedly more office space.

But tall building does not always mean development

[parthochoudhury]

My prediction for what will happen: Once the NPt Redev project is announced by MahaGov, the "PARDA" (Pseudo-ARt Deco Aristocracy) of Marine Drive will create a hue and cry about the neighborhood losing character because of the building of so many "swanky" corporate style high rises (meant only for the super rich) (as if the ppl who own houses on Marine Drive are stinking poor??!!) and all that sorta bull shit. Some might even question the need for the redev plans (quoting the perceived heritage value of the (pseudo-) art deco architecture of their run down apartment blocks), and quite a few may file PILs with the holier-than-thou Bombay HC fearing that the new sleight of construction may interfere with their morning jogs/dog walks/asthma trouble etc. etc. etc. Keep yr seat belts fastened, and just enjoy the ride!!!

[sumant]

Read in dna yesterday, even the whole ballard estate area is going in for revamp.this is being done privately by some local architects and planners .They need to get the required permission . Here is the article

http://www.dnaindia.com/lifestyle/re...estate_1381294

Revamping Ballard Estate

Ismat Tahseen / DNAMonday, May 10, 2010 10:58 IST

Mumbai: It’s been a concept that’s been hatching for a while now — a lot of talk on the city’s most picturesque, esteemed districts being set for a huge revamp. And now with the AMC (Additional Municipal Commissioner), Mumbai Port Trust and Ballard Estate
Welfare Association (BEWA) having given the green signal to plans recently, the area is set to charm the city in a new avatar and re-create a strong community feeling.

Says SM Pathania of the Chairman of BEWA, “Ballard Estate is a beautiful Edwardian precinct. The idea behind the restoration is to bring it back to its former glory while maintaining its essential character.”

Come next year, if permissions fall into place you might be forgiven for thinking you’re in another era — Ballard Estate will come alive with special plazas and signs — semblances of new-age commercial landscape. Well-known conservation architect Abha Narain Lambah, who is spearheading the project,
explains the plans. “Behind each building is an open-air space, but you never get to see it as you have to go through narrow gullies that are usually blocked to public. Also, these open areas have been used as dumping grounds. In addition, though this is a business district there are no services that such an area needs (example: food) and hawkers land up filling that requirement,” she says.

As per plans, each quarter will have a distinct plaza. If you’re an art connoisseur you might be able to soak in some culture during your lunch hour at the art plaza with its art works and sculptures.

There is also a food court like the ones in Singapore as well as a culture spot with a new amphitheatre. “Currently you can’t play music on loudspeakers at Kala Ghoda, but in this ampitheatre you can,” says Pathania.

The aim is to make it tourist-friendly too. “We want to introduce nighttime buggy rides and heritage trails too. Right now, Ballard Estate goes dead at night, it’s like a ghost town so we want the buildings to be lit up at night. It is, and will always be the jewel in Mumbai’s cosmopolitan fabric,” ends Abha.

[Bombay Boy]

Originally Posted by IchimaruGin1

hmm building tall is a means to an end. Tall building = supposedly more office space.

But tall building does not always mean development

thats not what mr. yash was arguing was he? he was just talking about tall buildings

[chennaidesi]

Originally Posted by yashchauhan

1990 Pudong was nowwhere near Nariman point...but now its a century ahead....

Great pics man, Nice explanations.

[KuwarOnline]

India is finally set to give shape to its futuristic smart cities - world-class, self-sustainable habitats with minimal pollution levels, maximum recycling, optimised energy supplies and efficient public transportation.

The pilot projects to develop these 'smart communities' is underway and is expected to be completed over the next 18 months. Japanese corporations such as Hitachi, Mitsubishi, JGC Corp and Toshiba, among others, will design and build these eco-friendly towns along the Dedicated Freight Corridor (DFC).

The DFC between Delhi and Mumbai will pass through six states - Uttar Pradesh, Delhi, Haryana, Rajasthan, Gujarat and Maharashtra.

"This is the first time after Chandigarh that a serious effort is being made to build modern cities," said Commerce and Industry Minister Anand Sharma.

http://business.rediff.com/slide-sho...htm#contentTop

[niknak]

BKC should have been Mumbai's Pudong. But MMRDA screwd up and set the height too low!

[niknak]

Originally Posted by Bombay Boy

ey? you still cant build tall. its next to the airport

it may become the biggest financial district in the city (if it isnt already), but thats not what is being argued

BKC is close to the airport, but it's not really in the flight path

[Bombay Boy]

bombay has cross runways

[studdmanster]

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Ratan Tata is the chairman of Indian Hotels who own the Taj Mahal Hotel Mumbai, which was the target of the terrorists on 26/11/08.

Hotel President a 5 star property also belongs to Indian Hotels.

The following is really touching.

What Ratan Tata did for the Mumbai victims.... Don't miss!!!!!!

SALUTE TO MR. RATAN TATA

A. The Tata Gesture

1. All category of employees including those who had completed even 1 day as casuals were treated on duty during the time the hotel was closed.

2. Relief and assistance to all those who were injured and killed

3. The relief and assistance was extended to all those who died at the railway station, surroundings including the “Pav- Bha ji” vendor and the pan shop owners.

4. During the time the hotel was closed, the salaries were sent by money order.

5. A psychiatric cell was established in collaboration with Tata Institute of Social Sciences to counsel those who needed such help.

6. The thoughts and anxieties going on people’s mind was constantly tracked and where needed psychological help provided.

7. Employee outreach centers were opened where all help, food, water, sanitation, first aid and counseling was provided. 1600 employees were covered by this facility.

8. Every employee was assigned to one mentor and it was that person’s responsibility to act as a “single window” clearance for any help that the person required.

9. Ratan Tata personally visited the families of all the 80 employees who in some manner – either through injury or getting killed – were affected.

10. The dependents of the employees were flown from outside Mumbai to Mumbai and taken care off in terms of ensuring mental assurance and peace. They were all accommodated in Hotel President for 3 weeks.

11. Ratan Tata himself asked the families and dependents – as to what they wanted him to do.

12. In a record time of 20 days, a new trust was created by the Tatas for the purpose of relief of employees.

13. What is unique is that even the other people, the railway employees, the police staff, the pedestrians who had nothing to do with Tatas were covered by compensation. Each one of them was provided subsistence allowance of Rs. 10K per month for all these people for 6 months.

14. A 4 year old granddaughter of a vendor got 4 bullets in her and only one was removed in the Government hospital. She was taken to Bombay hospital and several lacs were spent by the Tatas on her to fully recover her.

15. New hand carts were provided to several vendors who lost their carts.

16. Tata will take responsibility of life education of 46 children of the victims of the terror.

17. This was the most trying period in the life of the organization. Senior managers including Ratan Tata were visiting funeral to funeral over the 3 days that were most horrible.

18. The settlement for every deceased member ranged from Rs. 36 to 85 lacs [One lakh rupees tranlates to approx 2200 US $ ] in addition to the following benefits:

a. Full last salary for life for the family and dependents;

b. Complete responsibility of education of children and dependents – anywhere in the world.

c. Full Medical facility for the whole family and dependents for rest of their life.

d. All loans and advances were waived off – irrespective of the amount.

e. Counselor for life for each person

B. Epilogue

1. How was such passion created among the employees? How and why did they behave the way they did?

2. The organization is clear that it is not something that someone can take credit for. It is not some training and development that created such behaviour. If someone suggests that – everyone laughs

3. It has to do with the DNA of the organization, with the way Tata culture exists and above all with the situation that prevailed that time. The organization has always been telling that customers and guests are #1 priority

4. The hotel business was started by Jamshedji Tata when he was insulted in one of the British hotels and not allowed to stay there.

5. He created several institutions which later became icons of progress, culture and modernity. IISc is one such institute. He was told by the rulers that time that he can acquire land for IISc to the extent he could fence the same. He could afford fencing only 400 acres.

6. When the HR function hesitatingly made a very rich proposal to Ratan – he said – do you think we are doing enough?

7. The whole approach was that the organization would spend several hundred crore in re-building the property – why not spend equally on the employees who gave their life?

This is NOT COVERED BY Any NEWS CHANNELS !

Although it is irrelevent for the forum, but IMO it is sumthing that every Indian should know!!!at least someone in this country thinks about life beyond business and politics!!!!

[KuwarOnline]

yes our media is very negative....they really dont show good news.... but yes they show like alien's ne gay(cow) kyu uthaya,,,,kya woh cow ka dudh(milk) pite hai....and nonsense stuff...

[Bombay Boy]

thats the difference between tatas and ambanis

[_GrapeWine_]

Originally Posted by Bombay Boy

thats the difference between tatas and ambanis

that may not be authentic! All of it might not be true and there are very few means to verify it. what's the source?

[Bombay Boy]

even if its not true, there is still quite a difference in the philantrophy and charity of the tatas and the ambanis

the tatas build an IISc and a tata memorial hospital, amongst dozens of other great indian institutions. ambanis build dhirubhai ambani school and kokilaben hospital for the super-rich (though kokilaben does also offer some services for free/subsidised)

[Abhishek901]

Originally Posted by _GrapeWine_

that may not be authentic! All of it might not be true and there are very few means to verify it. what's the source?

But what BB said is still true. Whenever we talk about ethical companies, the first example is always Tata, for opposite, first example is always Reliance.

[Marathaman]

Bombay Boy is very right. Tatas are nation builders. They have a long tradition of philanthropy and charity going back a century. Ambanis, not so much. Their greatest contribution to Mumbai seems to be that billion-dolllar home for Mr. Mukesh

[Euromast]

TATA has seen wealth long before. Ambanis are new rich and their behaviour is still of typical Baniya.They are still in the phase where they are taught to keep the string of their purse attached to their underwear. They still have to evolve