Mumbai Discussions - Page 8

KuwarOnline · June 18th, 2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by devendra1

And the Good news

After Las Vegas, a Bellagio in Bandra?

Read this
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/repor...bandra_1397883

sumant · June 18th, 2010, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by devendra1

1 Good News and 1 Bad news

Here is the Bad news -

1,500-cr Bhendi Bazaar redevpt plan nixed

Read this
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ow/6061035.cms

This area badly needs redevelopment

The bhendi bazaar thing will pass through .They need consent from 70% of the residents which I think they will be able to get .

sathya_226 · July 24th, 2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by IndiansUnite

Nitro, I believe the shape is just an indicator of future development. I wouldn't take it as the actual shape of their future tower which is at least a good 6-12 months or more away from being launched.

btw the future towers will be called world two, world three and so forth.

A CBD cannot be formed by a single building or even a small group of buildings. CBD is rather formed by a culture developed in a section or part of a city with dedvelopments from various companies and also some special attention given by the government in areas like civic amnetie, providing a special identity to CBD by introducing various facilities which are common to that area. So i dont think LODHA alone can develop CBD with World one.

SOrry if iam wrong.

Sathya

India101 · July 25th, 2010, 02:02 AM

When did Lodha say they were building a CBD?

***IndiansUnite*** · July 25th, 2010, 02:06 AM

Sathya, Nitro meant CBD purely in terms of a mixed and dense framework of skyscrapers with retail+entertainment options. An actual CBD is much more than that as you've correctly pointed out. In the future we should see the lower Parel-Dadar region transforming from an alternate CBD to a full fledged one with more transportation links, cultural centers and of course office/resi space.

Bombay Boy · July 25th, 2010, 02:08 AM

lulz

bhargavsura · July 25th, 2010, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by IndiansUnite

Sathya, Nitro meant CBD purely in terms of a mixed and dense framework of skyscrapers with retail+entertainment options. An actual CBD is much more than that as you've correctly pointed out. In the future we should see the lower Parel-Dadar region transforming from an alternate CBD to a full fledged one with more transportation links, cultural centers and of course office/resi space.

Wait for another 15 years before something like that happens.

***IndiansUnite*** · July 25th, 2010, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bombay Boy

lulz

Let's face it - alternate BDs at lower parel-Dadar, BKC/Kalina, Andheri etc with a-grade office spaces are gaining more importance. There is nothing to indicate that NP is even being resuscitated. The mantralaya redevelopment project would have given the buildings a fresh look and led to new towers but that doesn't seem to be taking off any soon despite the bid being won by IB.

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Originally Posted by bhargavsura

Wait for another 15 years before something like that happens.

Of course the CBD is many years away and going by current market RE development and trends it seems to be on the right path.

sathya_226 · July 25th, 2010, 08:32 AM

BUT A RESINDENTIAL TOWER IN A CBD? IS IT encouraging? I would have been more optimistic if world one was a 100% commercial tower with the original height.

SOrry if iam wrong.

IchimaruGin1 · July 25th, 2010, 08:59 AM

a real central business district is actually developing in BKC and Andheri.

andheri does not have big ticket prices but it sure as hell does have all types of office space.

In the next 10 years BKC will be Mumbai's premier district as it has the land and will even get a metro passing right through it giving it excellent connections to navi mumbai and central and western railway and proximity to the airport and hotels etc.

sathya_226 · July 25th, 2010, 12:52 PM

^ I totally agree with that... BKC's proximity to new mumbai/south and western suburbs makes it a perfect location for corporate offices.

Cheers!

IchimaruGin1 · July 25th, 2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sathya_226

^ I totally agree with that... BKC's proximity to new mumbai/south and western suburbs makes it a perfect location for corporate offices.

Cheers!

I am expecting about 75-100 million square foot of office space there by 2020-2025

By then the mumbai metro line 2 will cover all parts of BKC connecting it to western at Bandra central at kurla and the harbour line leading to navi mumbai and (many places, but mostly mankhurd). Both Kurla and Bandra have have terminus's for trains out of station going toall parts of the country nearby. Both are major stops for fast and medium fast trains on locals.

Making it the most accessible place by rail.

by road you have connections close by to weh on the west and LBS and eeh on the east

Sobo can take the western freeway when completed from haji ali/worli to bandra and weh leading right upto BKC road. Then there is the eastern freeway which will open up right along there.

HAs good road connections by Navi mumbai and the vashi bridge and should benefit a lot if the sion panvel express way is indeed completed.

Plus its about 30km from any place on the island and most parts of Navi mumba unlike Nariman point which is 50 plus km from Mira road Bhayander.

MMDRA may have screwed up a lot of things, I personally think they suck but they have got the location and thought behind BKC spot on.....

BKC should have been there since the 1960s. A full booming CBD right in the middle of the city would have eliminated the north south commute and a lot of traffic issues for the city. People from the south would be commuting north. People from the north would be commuting south. Instead of all vehicles commuting north south in the morning.

Too many jobs and services concentrated in NP Fort Ballad estate Cuffe Parade which are the least accessible parts of the city.

***IndiansUnite*** · July 25th, 2010, 04:57 PM

Agree with you Ichi. What BKC lacks at the moment are key sectors like hotels (Trident is the only one operating), entertainment, retail and F&B which are pretty much non existent. It should hopefully see more activity from those sectors in the upcoming years. Another thing lacking is visibility to the common man due to its location but that should be taken care of by Line 2. Lower Parel-Worli-Dadar in comparison has a good mix of all sectors, less rental/sq ft, less tax and of course proximity to the head honchos' and fat cats' apartments

which makes it a bit more attractive.

IchimaruGin1 · July 25th, 2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by IndiansUnite

Agree with you Ichi. What BKC lacks at the moment are key sectors like hotels (Trident is the only one operating), entertainment, retail and F&B which are pretty much non existent. It should hopefully see more activity from those sectors in the upcoming years. Another thing lacking is visibility to the common man due to its location but that should be taken care of by Line 2. Lower Parel-Worli-Dadar in comparison has a good mix of all sectors, less rental/sq ft, less tax and of course proximity to the head honchos' and fat cats' apartments

which makes it a bit more attractive.

well Mumbai MMR as a city needs plenty of business CBD's

the more spread out the better. I personally hope that Belapur becomes a big job generator. Parel CBD will be more than welcome.

sathya_226 · July 25th, 2010, 06:27 PM

^ they need to shift those slum dwellers along the bandra station to some other location to make BKC more international!

IchimaruGin1 · July 25th, 2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sathya_226

^ they need to shift those slum dwellers along the bandra station to some other location to make BKC more international!

the slums are kurla are a bigger issue.

however the land for BKC is already substantial

occupiedinthought · July 25th, 2010, 08:48 PM

In addition to Ichi's list, couple of other metro lines will pass through BKC if and when they come up

Line 3 - Bandra - Colaba
Line 5(?) - BKC to KanjurMarg via airport

I think some of the slum lands may be shifted when Line 2 is in construction. It has to cross Bandra station and I hope they use this opportunity to free up some space there...

IchimaruGin1 · July 25th, 2010, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by occupiedinthought

In addition to Ichi's list, couple of other metro lines will pass through BKC if and when they come up

Line 3 - Bandra - Colaba
Line 5(?) - BKC to KanjurMarg via airport

I think some of the slum lands may be shifted when Line 2 is in construction. It has to cross Bandra station and I hope they use this opportunity to free up some space there...

somehow I dont think thats going to happen.

However coming back to the roads, the bulk of the problems from personal experience start from the end of EEH on which commute is relatively smooth even in rush hour. A CBD in BKC means no need to travel in the problem areas......

Its a nightmare travelling to a place like NP or Fort by car.You need a leeway of atleast 2 hours from mulund in rush hour. Mulund to sion you get easily even in the worst of times in 25-40 min.

At present Mulund to BKC takes about 30-50 min in rush hour. Plus not many parking issues.

occupiedinthought · July 25th, 2010, 09:44 PM

what won't come up...slum shifting...metro lines..or both ?

HDIL is involved in a lot of slum rehabilitation projects in various pockets.....it remains to be seen how successful that is....

reg metro lines..if mmrda is able to rope in jbic or world bank as the news reports suggest, i am definitely sure it will happen...just not sure about the timeline though...

IchimaruGin1 · July 25th, 2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by occupiedinthought

what won't come up...slum shifting...metro lines..or both ?

HDIL is involved in a lot of slum rehabilitation projects in various pockets.....it remains to be seen how successful that is....

reg metro lines..if mmrda is able to rope in jbic or world bank as the news reports suggest, i am definitely sure it will happen...just not sure about the timeline though...

the metro lines.

Dont you think its overkill?

There already will be Bandra to colaba line

anybody from BKC can simply change the metro at bandra and change there to get to colaba

So i dont see the BKC to colaba line taking shape. It would be a waste of money.

the second line hmm again Kanjurmarg business district and the area itself if served well by a suburban station.They can simply change at Kurla and get to the destination.

I really dont see the need for another connection to BKC when there are interchanges at kurla and bandra.

There is also a mulund ghatkopar-flora fountain line planned. So there will be an interchange at Kurla metro station (or some other adjacent station)

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July 25th, 2010, 02:02 AM	#144
India101 . Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sydney ~ Mumbai Posts: 9,639 Likes (Received): 436	When did Lodha say they were building a CBD?

July 25th, 2010, 02:06 AM	#145
*IndiansUnite* -> Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hanooz Dilli dur ast Posts: 10,450	Sathya, Nitro meant CBD purely in terms of a mixed and dense framework of skyscrapers with retail+entertainment options. An actual CBD is much more than that as you've correctly pointed out. In the future we should see the lower Parel-Dadar region transforming from an alternate CBD to a full fledged one with more transportation links, cultural centers and of course office/resi space.

July 25th, 2010, 02:08 AM	#146
Bombay Boy Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,585 Likes (Received): 1	lulz

July 25th, 2010, 08:32 AM	#149
sathya_226 DIPLOMAT Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maximum City! Posts: 2,758 Likes (Received): 8	BUT A RESINDENTIAL TOWER IN A CBD? IS IT encouraging? I would have been more optimistic if world one was a 100% commercial tower with the original height. SOrry if iam wrong.

July 25th, 2010, 08:59 AM	#150
IchimaruGin1 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,108 Likes (Received): 0	a real central business district is actually developing in BKC and Andheri. andheri does not have big ticket prices but it sure as hell does have all types of office space. In the next 10 years BKC will be Mumbai's premier district as it has the land and will even get a metro passing right through it giving it excellent connections to navi mumbai and central and western railway and proximity to the airport and hotels etc.

July 25th, 2010, 12:52 PM	#151
sathya_226 DIPLOMAT Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maximum City! Posts: 2,758 Likes (Received): 8	^ I totally agree with that... BKC's proximity to new mumbai/south and western suburbs makes it a perfect location for corporate offices. Cheers!

July 25th, 2010, 04:57 PM	#153
*IndiansUnite* -> Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hanooz Dilli dur ast Posts: 10,450	Agree with you Ichi. What BKC lacks at the moment are key sectors like hotels (Trident is the only one operating), entertainment, retail and F&B which are pretty much non existent. It should hopefully see more activity from those sectors in the upcoming years. Another thing lacking is visibility to the common man due to its location but that should be taken care of by Line 2. Lower Parel-Worli-Dadar in comparison has a good mix of all sectors, less rental/sq ft, less tax and of course proximity to the head honchos' and fat cats' apartments which makes it a bit more attractive.

July 25th, 2010, 06:27 PM	#155
sathya_226 DIPLOMAT Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maximum City! Posts: 2,758 Likes (Received): 8	^ they need to shift those slum dwellers along the bandra station to some other location to make BKC more international!

July 25th, 2010, 08:48 PM	#157
occupiedinthought Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 234 Likes (Received): 0	In addition to Ichi's list, couple of other metro lines will pass through BKC if and when they come up Line 3 - Bandra - Colaba Line 5(?) - BKC to KanjurMarg via airport I think some of the slum lands may be shifted when Line 2 is in construction. It has to cross Bandra station and I hope they use this opportunity to free up some space there...

July 25th, 2010, 09:44 PM	#159
occupiedinthought Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 234 Likes (Received): 0	what won't come up...slum shifting...metro lines..or both ? HDIL is involved in a lot of slum rehabilitation projects in various pockets.....it remains to be seen how successful that is.... reg metro lines..if mmrda is able to rope in jbic or world bank as the news reports suggest, i am definitely sure it will happen...just not sure about the timeline though...