Mumbai Discussions

[occupiedinthought]

Ichi...I didn't mean a separate BKC - Colaba line. I was referring to what is already planned (and might be tendered anytime).

The Colaba-Bandra line is to be extended through BKC (through a spur line through Mahim-Dharavi-BKC)...and will go underground again to reach the international airport and then further go upto Kanjur Marg(through L&T, Hiranandani Powai etc)...I don't know what their priority is, but that is what it is according to the originial masterplan.

Fort-Ghatkopar-Mulund will also run through Wadala so that will provide another link to a possibling emerging CBD

Of course a lot of it depends on the funding they are able to get...PPP looks increasingly tough for the other lines in general and soft loans + Government equity is needed to finance the project....

[bhargavsura]

Originally Posted by ashwa

I hope this is the right place!

Nice picture. A lake overflows? I thought that the levels of water in the Tulsi lake was low and this is why there were water cuts.

[occupiedinthought]

Yea...apparently BMC says water cuts will prevail a while longer. Tulsi is the smaller of the lakes and the larger ones are yet to overflow...

Here's an article

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/repor...mumbai_1415176

[jacob302]

notice how all of mumbai's projects consists of only a single tower. haha whats up with that?

[occupiedinthought]

This article is a few days old...but worth posting...
Hoping it does not result in a complete land grab....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ow/6202935.cms

MUMBAI: The verdant, 3,162-acre Aarey Milk Colony could soon become more accessible and attractive to the public, with the state's dairy development department working on an ambitious Rs 7,000-crore plan to develop an entertainment zone, dairy institute, aquarium, biodiversAAREY.TIMd other attractions at one of Mumbai's most important green lungs.

Justifying his plans for the dairy tourism zone, dairy development minister Nitin Raut told TOI, "Every day, I receive `requests' (read: pressure) to apportion land for various purposes. So the only way to protect this open space now is to allow the public to access it.'' Raut was speaking just a few hours after mentioning his makeover plan in the legislative assembly on Thursday.

According to the plan, various features would be developed on 500 acres of the vast green expanse. Consultants Urban Pundit have proposed that on around 350 acres the natural biodiversity of the region could be preserved, essentially creating a mini-jungle that Mumbaikars could walk through. Another 100 acres would be an entertainment zone, complete with a roller-coaster, merry-go-round, Bollywood-style studio and so on. This section would generate revenue to help maintain the zone. A dairy institute would be set up on 25 acres for students to get training in various dairy activities. Visitors would be able to see how milk and other dairy products are produced. Students would sell the products at kiosks. There would also be a model adivasi settlement, an underground aquarium (using a natural pond), parks and open spaces. However, a zoo, long discussed in plans for Aarey, is not part of the project.

The dairy development department's plan would need the state cabinet's nod to become a reality. The blueprint aims to protect the natural biodiversity as well as allow people to enjoy one of Mumbai's most scenic places, Raut said.

The 3,162-acre expanse covers areas in Goregaon (E), Jogeshwari (E) and Andheri (E). It rests at the southern tip of the Borivli national park. Environmentalists have long held that the national park and Aarey are the only important open spaces left in the city.

There are also plans to resettle people who live in the colony. Raut said 180 acres of Aarey are either home to adivasis who live in 27 padas or slumdwellers who are encroachers. They would be rehoused on 33.24 acres of the colony under the SRA scheme.

Some environmentalists have shown cautious enthusiasm towards the tourism plan. Neera Punj, convenor of Citispace, said that on the face of it the proposal is a fantastic idea. "Aarey is a no-development zone (NDZ) and the plan is according to what is allowed in an NDZ. It would be perfect if the land is brought into the public domain. However, the state should ensure transparency throughout. That is the only way to gain the public's support,'' she said.

However, environmentalist Rishi Agarwal was more cynical. There have been similar grand ideas in the past, but land was only parcelled off to developers, he said. "The government was to allow only a golf course near Aarey, but today there is an entire township. Similarly, Fantasyland at Andheri (E) is now a housing complex. Past experiences make one uncomfortable and suspicious,'' he said. Agarwal said the state must also do an Environment Impact Assessment before carrying out development and make the report public. "There are too many vested interests, so the state must keep it transparent and not act hastily,'' he said.

Raut said they have already received queries from Universal Studios, USA-which has developed theme parks and entertainment zones in the US, Japan and Spain-and Genting Island, Malaysia. "The financial aspects are still to be worked out,'' he said.

Elsewhere, Singapore has turned its water bodies into recreation spaces and made them accessible to the public, the idea being that people then feel a sense of ownership and treasure the assets.

[williemore]

i just notice the line of separation between old and new maps on maps.google.com...

somewhere in goregaon...

[williemore]

how can i attach images...

[bhargavsura]

Check this out

[occupiedinthought]

Originally Posted by williemore

i just notice the line of separation between old and new maps on maps.google.com...

somewhere in goregaon...

yeah its annoying...part of navi mumbai is also an older map (not taken during the monsoons) and a lot browner in general...

[williemore]

thnk u guys...

here's wat i meant...





I think everything north of the red line is new...

[KuwarOnline]

yaa... I think it requires some time to process images taken by satellites. also due to clouds they need more processing.

[dhim100]

Does anyone know the plans for the Century Mills site?

[IchimaruGin1]

Originally Posted by dhim100

Does anyone know the plans for the Century Mills site?

they plan on making a double century.

[India101]

World's tallest tower project in trouble

MUMBAI: The ambitious project by real estate firm Lodha Developers to construct the world’s tallest residential building in Mumbai rising to 117 floors seems to running into roadblocks.
First, it was the negative remarks by the Indian Meteorological Departments (IMD) and now the Shiv Sena has planned to launch a campaign against the project.
Sena leaders from areas around Lower Parel where the skyscraper is proposed to come said that over 10,000 residents from areas in Worli, Senapati Bapat Marg and Lower Parel has already signed a memorandum denouncing the project as it will strain the already stressed infrastructure and public amenities like potable water.
Sena corporater Sunil Shinde said that people around the area in Lower Parel were against the project as they feared that essential resources like water would be diverted to the high rise apartments.
“We have just begun and over 10,000 people have signed a memorandum. We are looking at an overwhelming response and then we will petition the state government, not to allow this project. If they want to built a high rise let them do it at areas near Mumbai, but not here where the resources are already stressed beyond limits,” he said.

[bhargavsura]

Originally Posted by IchimaruGin1

they plan on making a double century.

Good one. Hilarious.

[mihir1310]

Honestly , big buildings eating up water is a valid concern . We are so gaga over tall buildings i which we will never be able to live anyways , that such concerns no longer matter to us . In Borivali , such skyscrapers/malls have been mushrooming in previously quaint middle class localities. Even a single such building increases the rates of the surrounding areas bringing in a sort of gentrification of the suburb.
Water reservoirs providing Mumbai are already under strain . Just because the Shiv Sena picks up the isssue , we do not have to rubbish it altogether.

[IchimaruGin1]

Originally Posted by mihir1310

Honestly , big buildings eating up water is a valid concern . We are so gaga over tall buildings i which we will never be able to live anyways , that such concerns no longer matter to us . In Borivali , such skyscrapers/malls have been mushrooming in previously quaint middle class localities. Even a single such building increases the rates of the surrounding areas bringing in a sort of gentrification of the suburb.
Water reservoirs providing Mumbai are already under strain . Just because the Shiv Sena picks up the isssue , we do not have to rubbish it altogether.

it has 300 flats.

and has a water harvesting system.


All the issue off water will stop when they actually relay the pipes which bring water.

Mumbai has plenty of water resources. Its just that the distribution system is way old and has a lot of leaks.BMC cant be blamed cause it is way strapped on funds.

The centre needs to pump in more funds.

Anyways, my flat in Mulund is getting 24 hour tap water as of now. So i dont think that Parel should have any issues with water.

If it does then this just proves Mulund > Sobo. :P

[occupiedinthought]

+1

Honestly, they need to fix the other sources of water leakage before zeroing in on skyscrapers
1. illegal constructions + slums
2. outdated pipes and leaks in pipes du(e to encroachments...

It is housing 300 flats in a reasonably small space. It has water harvesting system and is reasonably self contained.

BMC earns lot more tax on such buildings which they should use to invest in better water distribution systems...

[williemore]

Originally Posted by IchimaruGin1

it has 300 flats.

and has a water harvesting system.


All the issue off water will stop when they actually relay the pipes which bring water.

Mumbai has plenty of water resources. Its just that the distribution system is way old and has a lot of leaks.BMC cant be blamed cause it is way strapped on funds.

The centre needs to pump in more funds.

Anyways, my flat in Mulund is getting 24 hour tap water as of now. So i dont think that Parel should have any issues with water.

If it does then this just proves Mulund > Sobo. :P

who said Mumbai has plenty of water?... I mean which government authority says that...? forget distribution system, Mumbai has a dearth of purified water resources... so much that they are also looking at sea water purifiers... some water is stolen thru the slums, and with more highrises and especially slum rehabilitations, more of such resources will be under strain... now we aren't talking about well water here... so if u got tankers or wells maintained in ur building, it is very specific to ur society in Mulund... but most buildings or chawls in south bbay are too cramped to have tanks or wells... hence there is shortage... in another few yrs we need new sources for sure... but that doesn't mean you cannot have new high rises either... there shud be some balance where the builder needs to take care of the additional strain to the established procedures... after all these builders make huge profits neways... they cannot leave this liability for the civic department... they need to handle this themselves...

[IchimaruGin1]

Originally Posted by williemore

who said Mumbai has plenty of water?... I mean which government authority says that...? forget distribution system, Mumbai has a dearth of purified water resources... so much that they are also looking at sea water purifiers... some water is stolen thru the slums, and with more highrises and especially slum rehabilitations, more of such resources will be under strain... now we aren't talking about well water here... so if u got tankers or wells maintained in ur building, it is very specific to ur society in Mulund... but most buildings or chawls in south bbay are too cramped to have tanks or wells... hence there is shortage... in another few yrs we need new sources for sure... but that doesn't mean you cannot have new high rises either... there shud be some balance where the builder needs to take care of the additional strain to the established procedures... after all these builders make huge profits neways... they cannot leave this liability for the civic department... they need to handle this themselves...

dude mumbai has a supply capacity of 3500mlpd (million litres per day)

from all the lakes when they are at capacity.

at works out to about 165 litres of water per capita per day. thats more than enough.

With middle viatarna dam it should be even more.


its the pipes which are the biggest issue. Not a self harvesting building