DERELICT, ABANDONED and other AT RISK buildings, plus our many undeveloped GAP SITES - What to do with them? - Page 7

TownPlanningNE · October 26th, 2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian

and we have covered many of them on this thread!

I think the 'Pocket Parks' idea is a good one - albeit temporary - as long as (once built) the City Council / NE1, actually maintain them!

I'm sure they will, but I wonder where the next one will be after the '57 Quayside' one?

The Westgate Road one is probably a good shout? I can't believe nothing has been done with it yet.

***Newcastle Historian*** · October 26th, 2010, 05:19 PM

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The Westgate Road one is probably a good shout? I can't believe nothing has been done with it yet.

This one?

THAT would be a very large 'pocket park', but something certainly needs doing with it. Perhaps just the strip next to Norwich Union House, fronting onto Westgate Road?

It certainly is a VERY prominent location.

TownPlanningNE · October 26th, 2010, 06:28 PM

You know I never realised that site was so big; its enormous! Whatever eventually does get built there it will be a very large building indeed.

elliott · December 4th, 2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian

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Bamburgh House Carliol Square Newcastle upon Tyne Signey James 1972
Courtesy of Newcastle Libraries Flickr

***Newcastle Historian*** · December 4th, 2010, 11:24 PM

Well spotted elliot, an excellent "old and new" comparison!

I'm just about to add your post to the INDEX under both 'Contrasts' and 'Newcastle Old & New' !!

***Newcastle Historian*** · January 3rd, 2011, 12:23 AM

This is an interesting site, with lots of photos of abandoned buildings in Newcastle and Gateshead.

The photos were mostly taken in 2008, and a LOT has changed since then . . .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/abandon...th/2480594090/

merleb · January 3rd, 2011, 12:31 AM

thanks NH - an interesting site.

The Tynesiders · January 3rd, 2011, 10:51 AM

Is that square thing one of the air shafts/escape tunnels for the Metro?

***Newcastle Historian*** · January 3rd, 2011, 11:15 AM

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Is that square thing one of the air shafts/escape tunnels for the Metro?

Yes, it is one of the (delightfully named) 'Draught Relief Shafts' for the Metro, like the one at Haymarket outside Haymarket Hub, the one outside Fenwicks in Blackett Street, and the one actually inside one of the buildings of Old Eldon Square.

I'm sure there are others dotted around?

The Tynesiders · January 4th, 2011, 12:03 AM

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Yes, it is one of the (delightfully named) 'Draught Relief Shafts' for the Metro, like the one at Haymarket outside Haymarket Hub, the one outside Fenwicks in Blackett Street, and the one actually inside one of the buildings of Old Eldon Square.

I'm sure there are others dotted around?

Thanks. The random ladder on the top looks oddly placed.

BerlinGeordie · January 5th, 2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian

Yes, it is one of the (delightfully named) 'Draught Relief Shafts' for the Metro, like the one at Haymarket outside Haymarket Hub, the one outside Fenwicks in Blackett Street, and the one actually inside one of the buildings of Old Eldon Square.

I'm sure there are others dotted around?

What's the thing in the middle of road in the 1972 picture with the PTE logo on it? Surely not a draught relief shaft, unless they were thinking ahead.

***Newcastle Historian*** · January 5th, 2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BerlinGeordie

What's the thing in the middle of road in the 1972 picture with the PTE logo on it? Surely not a draught relief shaft, unless they were thinking ahead.

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Aha, yes, this is something we have covered before on this forum, on the "General Knowledge" thread in May last year.

I was asking people in my question, what one of those very "things" were as there used to be a fair few of them, though the one I used a photo of was on Shields Road.

Here is a copy of the post that showed both my question and the eventual answer - plus a photo of another one of those boxes . . .

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Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian; May 2nd 2010

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(1) Anyone know WHAT this is? It is not there now, this photo was taken in the 1970s.

(2) Whereabouts in Newcastle was this photo taken?

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Originally Posted by CDB00

The symbol on it is the old pre-Nexus Tyne and Wear PTE logo so taking the date into account I'll hazard a guess that it has something to do with the construction of the metro tunnel. An air vent perhaps?

Where? I'll plump for the end of Northumberland St./Haymarket

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It was indeed the 'Tyne & Wear PTE' / 'Tyne & Wear Transport' LOGO, that was designed (and used) as an attempt (for many years) to get a 'Regional Identity' to our transport in this City and area along with our YELLOW buses and Metros, in the same way as the circle with a horizontal line through it had achieved for London Transport and their RED buses!

The 'blue line' across the middle represents the river Tyne, as this was originally the "Tyneside PTE" Logo (before Tyne & Wear).

HOWEVER,

The photo is NOT an air vent for the Metro, neither was it in the Northumberland St/Haymarket area (though, there may have been a one around there somewhere, as there were a fair few of these) just NOT this one!

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Originally Posted by DXNewcastle

(1) I liked to imagine that they were the PTE's equivalent of a Police Box or (being in the transport business) a Tardis-like staff hyper-travel machine. But in fact I assumed that they were merely a staff refuge at changeover-points. Nowadays, relief staff simply wait in small white vans. I guess they were also stocked with ticket-blanks and other materials. They MAY even have been staffed for route monitoring and cash collection -that, I don't know.

(2) That's the junction of Heaton Road with Shield Road. Most (all?) of the buildings are still there. The bank (empty) and the 30's steel window frames in the top left.

PERFECT answer DXNewcastle, thanks!

I always assumed they had telephones in there too.

Here is a 'wider view' version of the same photo, showing the precise location you described . . .

BerlinGeordie · January 9th, 2011, 10:49 AM

Interesting. My guess was that it was a toilet for bus drivers.

inmh88 · January 10th, 2011, 02:28 PM

I can remember as a kid seeing that PTE box on Shields Road. Must have gone in the early 80's. I can actually remember a Inspector sort of person (black uniform and black inspectors hat) sitting inside of one...

inmh88 · January 10th, 2011, 02:31 PM

Here's a great re-use of an previously abandoned building, didn't know about it until now!

http://optimistworld.com/New-Bridge-...tle-art-studio

http://thenewbridgeproject.blogspot.com/

http://twitter.com/#!/PopUpInitiative

Talisker · January 16th, 2011, 04:50 PM

This building adjoining the cooperage has been sold, according to the signs. I remember a planning application for this site a few years ago, that was withdrawn. Has anyone got any information on what's planned?

ferret88 · January 16th, 2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian

Aha, yes, this is something we have covered before on this forum, on the "General Knowledge" thread in May last year.

I was asking people in my question, what one of those very "things" were as there used to be a fair few of them, though the one I used a photo of was on Shields Road.

Here is a copy of the post that showed both my question and the eventual answer - plus a photo of another one of those boxes . . .

Wasn't/isn't there something similar to this on Westgate Rd just down from Cross House outside David Gray's solicitors? Or is that a french style information stand? I always remember looking out for it when coming down Westgate Hill toward the Quayside when we used to go to the Sunday Quayside Market in the 70s.

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***Newcastle Historian*** · January 16th, 2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ferret88

Wasn't/isn't there something similar to this on Westgate Rd just down from Cross House outside David Gray's solicitors? Or is that a french style information stand? I always remember looking out for it when coming down Westgate Hill toward the Quayside when we used to go to the Sunday Quayside Market in the 70s.

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The PTE Boxes were all absolutely identical to the two shown earlier on this thread.

I can't specifically remember one being where you say, but there could easily have been one there, there were a lot of them around!

ferret88 · January 16th, 2011, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian

The PTE Boxes were all absolutely identical to the two shown earlier on this thread.

I can't specifically remember one being where you say, but there could easily have been one there, there were a lot of them around!

I can't believe I can't find any pics of this online, I might have to hit the books. According to Google Earth, although it is hard to make out, it was last there in 2002.

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GBDT · January 16th, 2011, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ferret88

I can't believe I can't find any pics of this online, I might have to hit the books. According to Google Earth, although it is hard to make out, it was last there in 2002.

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This is the one you're talking about.
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P&T Image Archive, NCC

Cheers
GBDT

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December 4th, 2010, 11:24 PM	#125
*Newcastle Historian* Moderator and Archivist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 15,100 Likes (Received): 70	Well spotted elliot, an excellent "old and new" comparison! I'm just about to add your post to the INDEX under both 'Contrasts' and 'Newcastle Old & New' !!

January 3rd, 2011, 12:23 AM	#126
*Newcastle Historian* Moderator and Archivist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 15,100 Likes (Received): 70	This is an interesting site, with lots of photos of abandoned buildings in Newcastle and Gateshead. The photos were mostly taken in 2008, and a LOT has changed since then . . . http://www.flickr.com/photos/abandon...th/2480594090/

January 3rd, 2011, 12:31 AM	#127
merleb Patriot & Traditionalist Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,178 Likes (Received): 34	thanks NH - an interesting site.

January 3rd, 2011, 10:51 AM	#128
The Tynesiders Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 73 Likes (Received): 1	Is that square thing one of the air shafts/escape tunnels for the Metro?

January 9th, 2011, 10:49 AM	#133
BerlinGeordie Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 235 Likes (Received): 1	Interesting. My guess was that it was a toilet for bus drivers.

January 10th, 2011, 02:28 PM	#134
inmh88 Urban Myth Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 374 Likes (Received): 1	I can remember as a kid seeing that PTE box on Shields Road. Must have gone in the early 80's. I can actually remember a Inspector sort of person (black uniform and black inspectors hat) sitting inside of one...

January 10th, 2011, 02:31 PM	#135
inmh88 Urban Myth Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 374 Likes (Received): 1	Here's a great re-use of an previously abandoned building, didn't know about it until now! http://optimistworld.com/New-Bridge-...tle-art-studio http://thenewbridgeproject.blogspot.com/ http://twitter.com/#!/PopUpInitiative