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And Manny Pacquiao and Willie Revillame by the way?
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Shell asks court to cite customs officials for contempt
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BIR names Pacquiao, Kris Aquino among top 20 taxpayers
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BIR worried about a decline in April tax collection
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Government lays ground for VAT hike
Wednesday, 21 April 2010 00:00 BY KATRINA MENNEN A. VALDEZ Reporter Manila Times THE Department of Finance is laying the groundwork for a higher value-added tax (VAT) rate in exchange for a lower income tax rate, according sources privy to the plan. A source from the technical working group formed to look into the matter said they are looking for a “perfect ratio” between the income tax rate and VAT rate that would lead to an overall increase in revenues for the government. The source said any ratio should lead to incremental revenues above P87 billion, which is the difference between the amount raised under the old 10 percent and that generated under the current 12 percent for the VAT. “We are currently waiting for the Bureau of Internal Revenue’s [BIR] data filed last year for the 2008 income tax returns of individuals and corporations in order to complete the computation as to the 12 percent VAT,” the source said. The computation is aimed at determining the revenue impact of various scenarios that involve tweaking the individual and corporate tax rates. Finance Undersecretary Gil Beltran said the “proposal is still under study and computation,” without elaborating. Another senior finance official involved in the study said raising the VAT rate and lowering the income tax rate would put individuals and companies “on a fair and equal footing since they would be paying more for what they consume without incurring substantial lesions on their respective incomes.” BIR Commissioner Joel Tan-Torres earlier recommended a “no touch” policy on the existing 12 percent VAT after Finance Secretary Margarito Teves recommended that the next administration raise the rate to 15 percent. Tan-Torres had said this proposal may generate a public backlash, since this would mean raising the unpopular VAT rate while giving relief to big businesses. The corporate income tax had been reduced to 30 percent from 35 percent effective last year. Tan-Torres said any move to tweak tax rates should review unsuccessful moves, such as the Optional Standard Deduction (OSD), which ended up trimming government revenues by P6 billion. The OSD was outlined in Republic Act 9504, or the same law that exempted minimum-wage earners from income tax payments. |
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.. Ilang years na po ba silang wala dun?... Baka naman kaya hindi sila kasali kasi yung mga individual tax payer lang ang laman nung list, and yung mga company nila Villar, Tan, Sy ang taxable hindi sila personally. Pero once na natangap na nila yung dividend nila, subject yun sa Dividend tax, and individual income tax. Tama po ba?... Kaya lang kasi, ang mga corporation e hindi naman sila ganun kalaki mag declare ng dividends, lalo na pag expanding yung corporation...
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woof! woof!
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![]() On top of that, the withholding taxes that carries along with those big salaries and bonuses by these people can be used to offset any of their income tax declaration from that year, shielding them further from income taxation or sometimes would result into a credit or refund. I'm not sure if the BIR have certain limits on the salaries expenses they can claim and what amount is considered dividends so they can be taxed appropriately. Another way of doing this would be establishing ghost corporations with interrelated and complex ownership structures (ala Lucio Tan style) with these companies where the expenses of their invisible subsidiaries are deducted twice from the parent and from the subsidiary, resulting to minimum income declared for taxes. These businesses are slick and the corruption taking place in the BIR seems to have a lot of problems catching them. A lot more reforms are necessary to make these entities transparent so they can be taxed appropriately. I'm about to see laws being passed and enforced regarding inter related party transactions and the limitations of salaries expense being claimed by the board of directors and owners of these companies.
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Hi! ... I'm sorry but we're talking about businessmen here in the Philippines ... Well for the case of Lucio Tan, Henry Sy, and Villar... For sure, hindi lang naman yang dividend ang hinihintay nila, malamang may pera yan sa banko na nakadeposit at naghihintay lang ng interest kaya hindi nila kelangang maging employee? hehe.... Yes. there is certain limit on the salary of the employees. On a stockholder's case, who is at the same time, an employee of the company, he can only receive a reasonable amount of salary and any excess amount will be considered disguise dividend. Pero tama ka, aside from being a major stockholder, I would rather be an employee too. Actually I was about to edit what i posted earlier, kaya lang biglang nag off PC ko. . Hindi ko lang sure kung halimbawang ako ang major stockholder ng corporation, at ako ang chairman of the board, automatic ba na ako rin ang President? The point why Lucio Tan, Henry Sy, and Villar are not included in the list is that, thier company is the one profiting not themselves as individuals. If they are working for thier own respective companies, they will be receiving a salary which for sure is lesser than what Manny Pacquia or Kris Aquino earns... Last edited by 296619; April 26th, 2010 at 12:42 AM. |
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By the way, I do not totally agree with you. You're correct about the corruption, but not with the withholding taxes. A certain amount is being witheld to an employee everytime he submits his quarterly income tax return but, it is the final income tax that determines if you will be included in the rank or not. So, you have to total all the income tax you paid for the four quarters of the year.
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And your claim about the twice deduction, one from parent and one from subsidiary is not allowed by the Tax Code.
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I'm not making a statement about the deduction claimed by any one of the legit interrelated companies. I was talking about the ghost companies that they would potentially create for that particular purpose. In addition, I'm actually confirming about any comprehensive tax laws that covers that issue and you did answer that.
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Silent waters run deep Last edited by Askal82; April 27th, 2010 at 06:23 AM. |
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... I can't imagine a scenario where a ghost corp would benefit the mother company or another company for Tax purposes because one company with subsidiaries would have to file one consolidated Financial Statement and Tax return. If two companies are interrelated, there are certain transactions that they cannot enter into. Only arms-length or transactions with unrelated companies will be considered. Even a ghost corp is not allowed, in the sense that it would still be considered a related company, unless you bribe the auditors. So it still boils down to corruption to which I agreed with you.
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RP negotiates tax treaty with Syria
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BIR thinks that it will encourage other rich Pinoys to pay the correct taxes. BIR knows that there are so many rich Pinoys who don't pay the right amount of taxes.
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And I guess making it to that list give you a certain air of elegance and prestige above any one else.
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IMF endorses govt plan to raise VAT, cut income taxes
Tuesday, 04 May 2010 00:00 BY KATRINA MENNEN A. VALDEZ Reporter Manila TImes The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has endorsed a Philippine government plan to cut its income tax rate and raise its sales tax, according to the Department of Finance. Finance Undersecretary Gil Beltran said the IMF agreed to a government proposal to increase the value-added tax (VAT) rate from 12 percent to 15 percent provided that the income tax rate would be reduced to 21 percent from the current 30 percent. Beltran and other Philippine economic officials presented their plan before representatives of the multilateral lender during the annual IMF-World Bank spring meeting. “Since a lower income tax rate and higher VAT rate is the norm in almost all developing countries, IMF has said that it is a strategic move for us in order to boost tax efficiency collection,” Beltran said. The finance official said it is easier for the Bureau of Internal Revenue (BIR) to collect VAT, so raising the rate would bring more revenues to the government. He said the higher VAT-cum-lower income tax plan was based on the proposal of economics professors from the University of the Philippines. “Of course, we still have to come up with our own formula as to the lowering of the income tax rate versus the planned 15 percent VAT,” Beltran said. On April 21, The Manila Times reported that the finance department is laying the ground for a higher VAT rate in exchange for a lower income tax rate, with the formation of a technical working group that would look for the “perfect ratio” leading to an overall increase in government revenues. The BIR subsequently confirmed that it was already sending data to the committee tasked with coming up with the best scenario. Prepare for an exit Beltran also said that the IMF advised the Philippines to prepare for the global economy’s exit from the worst crisis in decades. He said the Philippines was advised to extricate itself from economic slowdown since failing to do so would bring inflation and interest rates above official ceilings. “We were told to prepare for an exit since according to them, developing countries are inevitably reaching the end of the tunnel of recession,” Beltran said. “If we cannot prepare as early as now, then lenders would increase their interest rates since the government and the private sector would flood them. A rise in the demand would push the interest rate and inflation up,” he said. The finance official said the Philippines could likely bounce back to its post-Asian financial crisis growth of 5.5 percent. The government has estimated that every one percent rise in the country’s gross domestic product (GDP) would equate to a P13 billion increase in nominal revenues. The BIR and Bureau of Customs have exceeded their respective collection targets for the first three months of this year, surpassing their combined tax take by P21 billion. “Of course, this would still depend on whether the growth in the collection was derived from increase in the [tax] collection efficiency or the BIR and [Customs] are collecting more from a bigger tax base,” Beltran said. “If the scenario is there is zero efficiency growth in tax collection, then the P21 billion [excess in tax collection] is from an expanded tax base. Thus, GDP is growing by 1 percent for every excess of P13 billion in the collection goal,” he added. The Philippine government is forecasting between 2.6-percent and 3.6-percent GDP growth this year. |
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Wow! These guys are simply incredible!! Maybe the ordinary Filipinos can readily afford to absorb these taxes since the remittance money keeps flowing in while allowing the wealthy bastards to get away with it much easier with their reduced income tax rates. 12 to 15%?!?!? Ouch!
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