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View Poll Results: Which is the busiest Freeway
401-Toronto 170 57.43%
Santa Monica Freeway-LA 96 32.43%
Southwest Freeway-Houston 14 4.73%
I-85-Atlanta 16 5.41%
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Old May 29th, 2007, 02:53 PM   #361
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Yeah .. it "was" the most advanced. I'm pretty sure other major metropolises around the world have networks and systems that are equivalent to, or surpass LA's.
Name one. Even the Chicago/New York networks aren't that extensive as LA's.
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Old May 29th, 2007, 03:54 PM   #362
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Name one. Even the Chicago/New York networks aren't that extensive as LA's.
Madrid.
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Old May 29th, 2007, 06:58 PM   #363
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Madrid has an extensive network, but still doesn't match LA.

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Old May 29th, 2007, 07:03 PM   #364
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That Madrid map is outdated. There is an M50 for a while.

It is still unclear which European road is the busiest; the Madrid M30 or the Moskovian MKAD. The London M25 would end high too, so is the Rotterdam A16.

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Old May 30th, 2007, 03:20 PM   #365
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Name one. Even the Chicago/New York networks aren't that extensive as LA's.
The Quebec City / Windsor Corridor network; serves about 15.6 million people with an area about 1,550 kilometres in length. Comprises the 401, 402, 403, 404, 405, 406, 407, 409, 410, 416, 417, 420, 427, as well as the gigantic autoroute system.
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Old May 30th, 2007, 05:45 PM   #366
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This comprises several cities... you're comparing a regional highway network with that of a single metropolitan area. If you want to compare California's interstate network which serves 35 million people, with the Quebec City/ Windsor corridor, go ahead.




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Madrid certainly has an impressive highway network... it seems quite compact however. What are the capacity of these highways? Are they mostly 8+ lane freeways like LA's network?
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Old May 30th, 2007, 05:55 PM   #367
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Is this the 401 in Toronto?



Nope, its the New Jersey Turnpike...
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Old May 30th, 2007, 07:35 PM   #368
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This comprises several cities... you're comparing a regional highway network with that of a single metropolitan area. If you want to compare California's interstate network which serves 35 million people, with the Quebec City/ Windsor corridor, go ahead.




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Madrid certainly has an impressive highway network... it seems quite compact however. What are the capacity of these highways? Are they mostly 8+ lane freeways like LA's network?


I thought he was comparing the greater LA area as well.. oh well, Toronto still has a fairly reputable system that serves 8 million people, including Hamilton and London.
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Old May 31st, 2007, 02:22 AM   #369
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This comprises several cities... you're comparing a regional highway network with that of a single metropolitan area. If you want to compare California's interstate network which serves 35 million people, with the Quebec City/ Windsor corridor, go ahead.




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Madrid certainly has an impressive highway network... it seems quite compact however. What are the capacity of these highways? Are they mostly 8+ lane freeways like LA's network?
No... Except for the innermost ring (M-30), where you have stretches with 12+ lanes, most of those freeways are 6 lanes (3+3), some 4 lanes (2+2) and some 8 lanes (4+4).


Madrid system, although being impressive, even more impressive for a city of it's size, can't be compared to LA's system.
You've got to rembember that Madrid's metropolitan area is home to some 5 Million people, while LA's metro has some 13 million people.
They're not in the same league.
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Old May 31st, 2007, 07:35 AM   #370
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But Madrid has definatly Europe's best system. Compare that to the London Motorway system, which has only one orbital road and some connectors, or Paris with all the gaps in the motorways, or Berlin, which isn't that impressive too.
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Old May 31st, 2007, 08:49 AM   #371
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I think we need to go back to the topic . I believe those freeways the OP mentioned are currently the busiest in the world. However, China and India has the fastest growth of vehicle population. Currently, their freeways are fun to drive because there are only few vehicles but both governments are expecting heavy growth of vehicles on the next 5 - 10 years so they are now expanding those highways to accommodate such traffic. With the overwhelming population of both countries and the growing economy, I believe in 10 years, China and India may beat the freeways the OP mentioned IMHO.
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Old May 31st, 2007, 12:51 PM   #372
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Most China Expressways between cities are generally only 2 lanes per direction. I think the Chinese government has the lack of anticipation here, if you see the congestion in European countries like Germany, Netherlands, Great Britain or Belgium, you will see that in the future in China too, but much worse, since there are a hell lot more of people in China who can own a car in the nearby future.
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Old May 31st, 2007, 01:04 PM   #373
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Comparing Madrid's network to LA's network is almost ridiculous. 2 totally different cities.

Madrid is very dense, L.A. is not at all. Madrid has a great public transport system, L.A. has not. Madrid serves 5 million, L.A. serves 13 million people. And most important, driving your car is big culture in L.A.,while in Madrid it's eating excellent food and drinking sangria and tinto's. No driving allowed then!

So ofcourse L.A.'s freeway network is way more extensive....
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Old May 31st, 2007, 05:54 PM   #374
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Most China Expressways between cities are generally only 2 lanes per direction. I think the Chinese government has the lack of anticipation here, if you see the congestion in European countries like Germany, Netherlands, Great Britain or Belgium, you will see that in the future in China too, but much worse, since there are a hell lot more of people in China who can own a car in the nearby future.
Not to mention Chinese drivers are more shitter.
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Old May 31st, 2007, 07:33 PM   #375
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Is this the 401 in Toronto?



Nope, its the New Jersey Turnpike...
Heh that's impressive, but I wondered why this "401" is so empty
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Old May 31st, 2007, 09:53 PM   #376
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That's a tolled road, right?
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Old May 31st, 2007, 11:09 PM   #377
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That's a tolled road, right?
The website for the NJ Turnpike has information about the E-ZPass, so I guess it is.
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Old May 31st, 2007, 11:28 PM   #378
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forming the backbone of the system
I find there to be a problem with this perception of the interplay of Hwy 401 with the T'o area there: this 401 Hwy is virtually the lone bone to the region's whole friggin' expressway 'network' there.

Ultimately, 401 needn't be a part of this poll.
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Old June 1st, 2007, 12:53 AM   #379
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That Jersey TPK looks great, has even normal markings, unlike their LA counterparts.
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Old June 1st, 2007, 01:24 AM   #380
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yeah the turnpike is in a pretty good condition as I remember
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