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View Poll Results: Which is the busiest Freeway
401-Toronto 170 57.43%
Santa Monica Freeway-LA 96 32.43%
Southwest Freeway-Houston 14 4.73%
I-85-Atlanta 16 5.41%
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Old June 1st, 2007, 01:44 AM   #381
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I agree. The 401 basically is our whole highway network with some highways such as the 400, QEW and 403 intertwined to link up to the 401.
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Old June 1st, 2007, 01:47 AM   #382
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But Madrid has definatly Europe's best system. Compare that to the London Motorway system, which has only one orbital road and some connectors, or Paris with all the gaps in the motorways, or Berlin, which isn't that impressive too.

No doubt about that!
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Old June 1st, 2007, 05:38 AM   #383
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I agree. The 401 basically is our whole highway network with some highways such as the 400, QEW and 403 intertwined to link up to the 401.
Without these "some highways" the whole system would fail completely, 401 or not.
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Old June 1st, 2007, 09:32 AM   #384
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I'm sure you all know this but the 401 has an express-collector set up.
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Old June 1st, 2007, 12:50 PM   #385
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But Madrid has definatly Europe's best system. Compare that to the London Motorway system, which has only one orbital road and some connectors, or Paris with all the gaps in the motorways, or Berlin, which isn't that impressive too.
that's true, Berlin's is nothing


also not compared to the Rhein-Ruhr-Area (but which sitll can't match Madrid's)
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Old June 1st, 2007, 01:11 PM   #386
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How many vehicles DO travel on the 401?
Annual Average Daily Traffic (AADT) on Toronto's 401 was in excess of 500,000 in 2006. Record traffic flow on the 401 is much higher. The 2nd busiest highway in the world, the Santa Monica Freeway, handles between 300,000 and 400,000. The 401 is up to 50% busier.

The 401 is, by far, #1.
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Old June 1st, 2007, 02:44 PM   #387
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In thought the second one was the 405 freeway near Long Beach.

but 500.000 is sick man. Maybe because of the lack of alternatives?
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Old June 1st, 2007, 07:31 PM   #388
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that's true, Berlin's is nothing
It looks to me, from studying recent high-resolution air photos, that Berlin's autobahn network was once planned to be far more extensive than it is now, with those plans possibly going back to the Nazi era. Do you have any idea what those old/unbuilt plans were? Also, how different would that map look today had the 'Wall' not been there for much of the second half of the 20th Century?

Also, are there any current plans to tie together all of those loose fragments of the A-44 in the Rhine-Ruhr area?



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Old June 1st, 2007, 08:34 PM   #389
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Also, are there any current plans to tie together all of those loose fragments of the A-44 in the Rhine-Ruhr area?
There are plans enough, but it is unlikely that all parts will be connected. So far the gap between Ratingen and Velbert has the highest priority i heard.

The part south of Mönchengladbach has been demolished because of mining activities in the area.
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Old June 1st, 2007, 08:43 PM   #390
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I agree Madrid network is wonderfull.
The problem with Paris, it is the full of motorway death motorway, the delay for the construction of new motorway (10 years for built a tunnel )
That's why Paris freeway system is the most congestioned in western Europe.
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Old June 1st, 2007, 08:45 PM   #391
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The only map I have found that includes former planned autobahn-stretches (so everything that is not red or violet is not a current autobahn)

http://www.autobahnatlas-online.de/Karte.htm
if there wouldn't have been the wall, the inner circle probably would be complete. after you said that i realized now that the inner circle strechtes in west-berlin end near the former wall

concerning A44: the missing part in Dortmund is not in the current plannings;
the same goes for the part between Velbert and Bochum;
in Bochum itself there are only plans to connect it directly to the A40, but it's not finally approved;
the part between Ratingen and Velbert is planned and approved, but I don't know when they'll begin;
no plans are for the part east of Mönchengladbach;
the part west of Grevenbroich has been demolished in 2005 because of the open cast mining of brown coal in that area

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In thought the second one was the 405 freeway near Long Beach.

but 500.000 is sick man. Maybe because of the lack of alternatives?
maybe someone from there can offer us a map showing the public mass transport system in toronto and los angeles?


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the maps i have posted do not clearly include autobahn-like developped Bundes- and Landstraßen (I guess comparable to US and State Routes)

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Old June 1st, 2007, 09:53 PM   #392
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Heh that's impressive, but I wondered why this "401" is so empty
Its empty because it was taken on a Sunday morning... other photos in the series showed the NYC 5 boro bike tour, which takes place on May 6th.

This road is generally very heavily traveled...

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Old June 1st, 2007, 10:50 PM   #393
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Old June 2nd, 2007, 06:50 AM   #394
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In thought the second one was the 405 freeway near Long Beach.

but 500.000 is sick man. Maybe because of the lack of alternatives?
Yes, there are only 3 major east-west highways in Toronto. Running parallel to the 401 further north is the 108 km long 407 Highway. It is the world's first all-electronic toll highway. Parallel to the 401, but to the south is the Gardiner Expressway. It extends all the way along the lake to Hamilton, Ontario.

As you can see, Torontonians have only 3 east-west highways to choose from. The 407 is 10 lanes at it's widest and the Gardiner is only 6 lanes wide. Compare that to the 401 which is 18 lanes wide at it's widest.

(The map above shows all 3 of these highways in red. The red coloured east-west highway furthest north is the 407, as in indicated. The red coloured east-west highway along the lake is the Gardiner, and the red coloured east-west highway between the two is the 401.)

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Old June 7th, 2007, 09:56 AM   #395
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non of those freeway. The busiest freeway is in Jakarta, Indonesia..Like hell!
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Old June 12th, 2007, 08:16 AM   #396
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I always found Tte 427 can look a bit 401-ish as well (with the traffic jams to match). Although it isn't very long.





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maybe someone from there can offer us a map showing the public mass transport system in toronto and los angeles?

Well, let's just say, that if Toronto didn't have such a large and well used public transit system, we would need a hell of a lot more freeways running all over town. And that's the major difference between say LA and Toronto. We do need major highways, but they aren't the only way to get around...and they circle and bypass the inner city, rather than criss-cross all through it.

The 401 is a freak, because it isn't just a local commuter highway...it isn't even just a regional highway....it's the main artery where goods travel between the world's largest trading partners...it's local, it's regional, it's inter-provincial and international...on top of being used as just a local commuting route.




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Old August 24th, 2007, 08:16 PM   #397
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M25 London is the worst motorway in the world worst then bejing. its like car park
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Old August 24th, 2007, 08:50 PM   #398
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Though it's by far not the busiest. Only 190.000 AADT, that's a lot, but it can be seen elswhere in Europe.
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Old August 25th, 2007, 03:32 AM   #399
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well, i think moscow can easy dispute this statement.
Moscow has only one motorway (in most countries it wouldn't be full motorway, a seen pictures of cars entering this road straight from some parking just alongside road, no acceleration lanes) ring others are just wide streets.
Madrid has 2 rings finished and 3rd is coming. Plus network of others motorways in each direction. All of them high standard multilane motorways.
Madrid is becoming like European L.A.
All this despite population 3 times smaller tnah Moscow.
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Old August 26th, 2007, 01:16 AM   #400
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2º circular in Lisbon is certenly one of the busiest freways in Europe

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