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View Poll Results: Which is the busiest Freeway
401-Toronto 170 57.43%
Santa Monica Freeway-LA 96 32.43%
Southwest Freeway-Houston 14 4.73%
I-85-Atlanta 16 5.41%
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Old August 18th, 2009, 12:39 AM   #441
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In Romania, of the 2 existing motorways, the A2, Bucureşti - Cernavodă, is probably the most congested. Not only does it link Bucureşti to the seaside, but it is also incomplete, so it's easy to imagine what happens when it narrows down to a regular 2x1 national road, especially during the summer.

The national road network is even worse due to lack of motorways linking Romania to Hungary, so worse that my family and I would rather go to the mountains in Austria around Salzburg - Innsbruck (around 800 to 1000 km away) than to our own Carpathian resorts, some 300 to 400 km away. The amount of time to reach the Alps = the amount of time needed to reach the most beautiful parts of Transylvanian Carpathians.
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Old August 18th, 2009, 01:20 PM   #442
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No, traffic on A2 is about half of that on A1.
Average daily traffic values (physical vehicles) at the latest counting (2005).
A1

km 12.500 AADT = 25185
km 36.050 AADT = 12681
km 102.275 AADT = 16765

A2

km 12.500 AADT = 8040
km 35.700 AADT = 8372
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Old August 18th, 2009, 03:12 PM   #443
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Thanks for providing the numbers. I obviously didn't consider seasons other than summer .
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Old August 18th, 2009, 09:59 PM   #444
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Toronto, Canada, Highway 401.

AATD (2006) 500,000 <---- Busiest highway in the world. Busiest truck route in the world. Busiest multi-structure bridge in the world. Widest highway in the world (18 motor lanes at widest point).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_401_(Ontario)

Not bad for a city of $4 million. Eh?


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Old August 18th, 2009, 10:25 PM   #445
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Well, I wouldn't say "not bad", I'd say "very bad". The need for 18-laned road is a clear sign of drastically underdeveloped public transport... That kind of people flow could be easily handled by a single pair of rail tracks.

But of course from "I don't have to use it every day" point of view it's a stunning pieced of engineering for every road geek
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Old August 18th, 2009, 10:31 PM   #446
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Well, I wouldn't say "not bad", I'd say "very bad". The need for 18-laned road is a clear sign of drastically underdeveloped public transport... That kind of people flow could be easily handled by a single pair of rail tracks.
Not necessarily. It can also point out that there are few alternatives, or that most commuter traffic in the metropolitan area is concentrated on this single road. I doubt if traffic volumes would decimate with a better public transport. Interestingly, the 401 is not even a downtown-bound freeway.
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Old August 18th, 2009, 11:17 PM   #447
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Even more intersting is that you both are probably right.

And even more sad is that dispite having 18 lanes of traffic, it will still take an average commuter over one hour to travel 20km on this corridor during peak hours.

But besides all that, we Canadians still love our cars. I will personally raise up and revolt against any government who tries to take away my 401.
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Old August 18th, 2009, 11:36 PM   #448
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That really is one case that I'd put a 250kmh TGV style train right down the middle.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 10:36 PM   #449
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That really is one case that I'd put a 250kmh TGV style train right down the middle.
Then we go right back to Fuzzy's point. No effective public transit system to take you away from the corridor. And no money to build any.


On that note. Here's another one of Toronto's highways.

This is the 427. Simliar width as the 401, but much more pleasent to drive on.

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Old August 20th, 2009, 10:47 PM   #450
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i'm taking from another thread

this again is the 401

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Old August 20th, 2009, 10:54 PM   #451
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Here's a downtown bound highways.

The Gardiner Expressway. I'm telling you we're really good at traffic jams.

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What do you think is better? One bigass freeway or several narrower freeways separated by two or three kilometers? (Houston vs New York City)
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Old August 21st, 2009, 07:20 AM   #453
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New York City & New Jersey beat out Houston easily , the stunning views from NYC & NJ freeways and the amount of them are incredible, Texas itself is just a bunch of big Freeways like Toronto and Ugly lack stunning views
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Texas itself is just a bunch of big Freeways like Toronto and Ugly lack stunning views
Like Toronto?

Check this Gardiner video up from 2:30


Quite stunning views imo.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 10:53 AM   #455
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The need for 18-laned road is a clear sign of drastically underdeveloped public transport...
or a clear sign of a weawing section of two motorways...
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That really is one case that I'd put a 250kmh TGV style train right down the middle.
not taking into account it has no sense at all (in city transport), where do you get the money from to build it?

maybe from the best milking cows of the universe: the car drivers?
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 07:28 PM   #457
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Highway 20 in Israel. Daily traffic is 750,000 vehicles:

[IMG]http://i31.************/rbzlzm.jpg[/IMG]

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Highway 20 in Israel. Daily traffic is 750,000 vehicles:
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 08:21 PM   #459
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Highway 20 in Israel. Daily traffic is 750,000 vehicles
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Toronto, Canada, Highway 401.

AATD (2006) 500,000 <---- Busiest highway in the world.
so it isn´t
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500.000 is a summer peak of the 401.

The AADT (annual average daily traffic) is 426,400 for the 401:
[IMG]http://i29.************/of0l09.png[/IMG]

The 750,000 for the Ayalon claim is probably based on the amount of traffic on the entire highway, but that's not how traffic volumes are measured. Traffic counts are measured between two interchanges/exits. 750,000 would require 34 lanes.
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