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View Poll Results: Which is the busiest Freeway
401-Toronto 170 57.43%
Santa Monica Freeway-LA 96 32.43%
Southwest Freeway-Houston 14 4.73%
I-85-Atlanta 16 5.41%
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Old May 6th, 2012, 08:56 AM   #681
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Old May 8th, 2012, 05:26 PM   #682
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If one would ever plan a road trip between Madrid and Gibraltar, will one get a chance to travel that road? If yes, then it would be neat

Anyways
Not necessarily related to busiest........but in some places somewhere around the world, more lanes are being added.

I think one of the lane expansions is in America:
-California (Interstate 5 near I-805 and California Route 36)
I heard they wanna make it into something like 22 or 24 lanes (or maybe 26, I dunno)
-Texas
Interstate 10 (some call it the Katy Freeway). More than 22 lanes.

Btw, there's this road in Argentina that is also massive.....and it's not a controlled-access or limited access roadway.

July 9 avenue is what it's called

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_de_Julio_Avenue
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Old May 9th, 2012, 04:21 PM   #683
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it means Toronto have really bad traffic planning and congustion. which is true.

this really is nothing to be proud of. Although the fact that 40% of the cars dash down the road at 140km/h also help to speed things up.
If Highway 401 is designed to handle such a large amount of traffic in the Toronto area (which it seems to be with many lanes in a collector-express system, cameras, etc.), then I don't see a problem with it's numbers. It actually meant they planned or adapted to the situation well if that's the case.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 07:33 AM   #684
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Old May 14th, 2012, 08:43 AM   #685
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lol

With volumes that high, why not switch to electronic tolling?
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Old August 5th, 2012, 05:20 PM   #686
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Paris peripheric Boulevard ( ring road freeway) has 300 000 vehicles per day.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 04:49 PM   #687
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Algunos datos de América Latina...
Actualizo los datos de los accesos a BsAs...
1- Marginal Tiete - Sao Paulo (2010): 380.000
2- Acceso Norte - BsAs (2011): 355.443
3- General Paz - BsAs (2009): 316.500
4- Periférico Norte - Ciudad de México (2010): 303.000
5- Acceso Oeste - BsAs (2012): 287.876
6- PR18 - San Juan (2008): 286.800
7- PR22 - San Juan (2008): 257.000
8- Autopista a La Plata - BsAs (2011): 230126
9- Richieri - BsAs (2012): 214.156
10- PR 26 - San Juan (2002): 160.100
11- PR 52 - San Juan (2003): 166.493
12- PR 2 - San Juan (2009): 117.238
13- PR 30 - Caguas (2004): 113.300
14- PR17 - San Juan (2005): 107.300
15- Autopista Central (rama este) - Santiago (200?): 75.858
16- Puente Rafael Urdaneta - Maracaibo: 50.760

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Old March 21st, 2013, 10:38 AM   #688
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I believe the Margina Tiete is the busiest now and the numbers presented in this thread would support it as they are from a few years ago and the traffic volumes have significantly grown since then. I lived a 10 min walk from Marginal Tiete (location of the bellow picture) and this is a picture I found from late 2011 at around 8-9pm at night on a work day.


The highway is congested virtually 24-7 now, it is not just peak hours but all hours and continues to undergo expansions.

I will see if I can dig up the most up to date traffic counts but if anyone else can get a hold of them and post them please do so. I know the 401 is massive, but the Marginal Tiete has certainly surpassed it since the beginning of this thread. Also of note there are other massive highways in the city as well that would rank pretty high in terms of traffic volumes.

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Old March 21st, 2013, 12:08 PM   #689
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lol

With volumes that high, why not switch to electronic tolling?
1) These pictures are from holidays when everyone tries to get out of the city and to the beach.
2) Sao Paulo is not a city where you can relax and go for a stroll in a park and hence why everyone tries to get out during holidays, the city is the last place people want to spend their time off. Its not like what you are used to in Ontario / Toronto.
3) This is why there is such a huge swing in traffic volumes on the Imigrantes, 95% of the time if there is no fog or accidents the highway and toll booths are just fine to handle demand. On weekends and holidays traffic volumes shoot through the roof more then other places.

I suppose you would need to live there to understand, the amount of people leaving the city during holiday's is much higher then in Toronto.
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Old July 5th, 2013, 04:30 AM   #690
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I guess after the "Nova Marginal" upgrade back in 2010, Marginal Tietê might carry more cars than Highway 401:


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During the rush hour: http://blogpontodeonibus.wordpress.c...porte-publico/
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Old July 5th, 2013, 03:29 PM   #691
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That is possible, but I haven't seen reliable roadway segment traffic counts of the Marginal Tiête.
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Old July 6th, 2013, 11:56 PM   #692
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Yes, I've googled it and I found nothing. Chris, is it possible to estimate, based on the number of lanes, how many cars go through Marginal Tietê every day?

As São Paulo's car fleet keeps growing fast, Marginal Tietê is already slower than before the lane addition. I guess the north section of Rodoanel will offer some relief when completed:

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São Paulo Rodoanel, 177 km


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West and South sections completed. East under construction and North to be started. About 19 million people and 8 million cars are inside the ringway.
Looking quickly on a Brazil's map, São Paulo might look peripheral, but it's actually THE crossroad of Brazil. An huge share of Brazilian goods go through São Paulo's highways, including Marginal Tietê. So it's not only about São Paulo's already big fleet, but cars and trucks from all over the country using SP's highway complex.
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Old July 7th, 2013, 09:32 PM   #693
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Chris, is it possible to estimate, based on the number of lanes, how many cars go through Marginal Tietê every day?
The outer lanes of the Marginal Tietê would not be considered a part of the freeway in most countries, because it has driveway and side street access, and in some cases sidewalks. However they are free-flowing, there are no pedestrian crossings or traffic lights.

The express lanes are mostly 12 - 14 lanes wide, and the local lanes generally have 3 lanes each way, which brings the total of this free-flow corridor to as much as 20 lanes.

If you use certain rules of the thumb (2200 vehicles/hr * 20 lanes * 12 hrs), a traffic volume of 500,000 vehicles per day is not impossible. Which could make it the busiest road in the world, but as you found out, there are no reliable traffic counts available. I personally think 400,000 - 450,000 is a more plausible volume.
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Old July 8th, 2013, 07:09 AM   #694
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Video I made about 2 months ago that shows the 401's busiest segment.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miErXMuzxAA

Skip to about 8 mins in to see it
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Old November 6th, 2013, 06:56 PM   #695
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Algunos datos de América Latina...
Actualizo los datos de los accesos a BsAs...
1- Marginal Tiete - Sao Paulo (2010): 380.000
2- Acceso Norte - BsAs (2011): 355.443
3- General Paz - BsAs (2009): 316.500
4- Periférico Norte - Ciudad de México (2010): 303.000
5- Acceso Oeste - BsAs (2012): 287.876
6- PR18 - San Juan (2008): 286.800
7- PR22 - San Juan (2008): 257.000
8- Autopista a La Plata - BsAs (2011): 230126
9- Richieri - BsAs (2012): 214.156
10- PR 26 - San Juan (2002): 160.100
11- PR 52 - San Juan (2003): 166.493
12- PR 2 - San Juan (2009): 117.238
13- PR 30 - Caguas (2004): 113.300
14- PR17 - San Juan (2005): 107.300
15- Autopista Central (rama este) - Santiago (200?): 75.858
16- Puente Rafael Urdaneta - Maracaibo: 50.760

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post101436912
Actualizando:

1- Marginal Tiete - Sao Paulo (2010): 380.000
2- General Paz - BsAs (2012): 376.800
3- Acceso Norte - BsAs (2011): 362.000
4- Periférico Norte - Ciudad de México (2010): 303.000
5- Acceso Oeste - BsAs (2012): 287.876
6- PR18 - San Juan (2008): 286.800
7- PR22 - San Juan (2008): 257.000
8- Autopista a La Plata - BsAs (2011): 230.126
9- Richieri - BsAs (2012): 214.156
10- PR 26 - San Juan (2002): 160.100
11- PR 52 - San Juan (2003): 166.493
12- PR 2 - San Juan (2009): 117.238
13- PR 30 - Caguas (2004): 113.300
14- PR17 - San Juan (2005): 107.300
15-Acceso Norte Ramal Tigre - BsAs (2012): 98400
16- Autopista Central (rama este) - Santiago (200?): 75.858
17- Circunvalación - Rosario (2012): 62.400
18- A004 - BsAs: 57.000
19- Puente Rafael Urdaneta - Maracaibo: 50.760

http://transito.vialidad.gov.ar:8080...ibro_web_2012/
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Old November 6th, 2013, 08:39 PM   #696
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I suppose (hope...) someone's already said so in the eight years since this thread was launched...I'm certainly not going to go back and read it all...but how can a question of fact be the subject of a poll? Whether or not you believe, say, Paris is the most populous city in France, it is.
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Old November 6th, 2013, 11:03 PM   #697
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Good point!
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Old November 7th, 2013, 03:48 AM   #698
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Haha I true, I thought that.. The Marginal Tiete looks an interesting road, are they counting both sides of that river? I can see five separate freeways going in the same direction!
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Old November 7th, 2013, 04:03 AM   #699
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Yes, in Marginal Tietê (and Marginal Pinheiros as well) the river splits the traffic flow. In the picture I posted, we have 11 lanes in one side (right, west-east) and 11 in the other (left east-west)

P.S. The newest São Paulo's CBD developed along Marginal Pinheiros, which makes it visually more interesting than Marginal Tietê:

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SKY LINE SAO PAULO PONTE ESTAIADA por MARCELO DONATELLI, no Flickr

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MARCELODONATELLI 762 por MARCELO DONATELLI, no Flickr



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I think it has 8-9 lanes in each side of the river in the widest part.
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Just a ridiculous city, buildings that stretch to the horizon as high as the highest in my country
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