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View Poll Results: Which is the busiest Freeway
401-Toronto 170 57.43%
Santa Monica Freeway-LA 96 32.43%
Southwest Freeway-Houston 14 4.73%
I-85-Atlanta 16 5.41%
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Old April 11th, 2005, 03:32 AM   #81
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Acoording to this google site im looking on...

The busiest road in the USA is the San Diego Freeway...has a peak hour volume of 25500 vehicles!


But the busiest motorway in the world is the M25 in England...with 270,000 vehicles a day driving on it!
mmmm, no....270,000 isnt much at all...there are numerous in North America well over 400,000
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Old April 11th, 2005, 04:51 AM   #82
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and weve gone over this before, i meant to put down I-75, it was a typo.

Could a mod fix that
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Old April 12th, 2005, 09:26 PM   #83
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I'll vouch that the 401 in Toronto has got to be the most travelled/busiest highway. Although L.A. by far has the busiest highway system.
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Old August 12th, 2005, 02:07 AM   #84
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only 400 000 vehicule per day
but the paris boulevard peripherique freeway has 1.200 000 vehicule per day
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Old August 12th, 2005, 07:16 AM   #85
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only 400 000 vehicule per day
but the paris boulevard peripherique freeway has 1.200 000 vehicule per day
I think the stats we are comparing are a little different. The 401 stats are for a single point. Ie. 400,000 vehicles per day on a certain section of highway. It sounds like the Parris Peripheral Highway carries 1.2 million vehicles per day for its entire lenght.

These are two very different statistics.

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Old August 12th, 2005, 11:45 AM   #86
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I think the stats we are comparing are a little different. The 401 stats are for a single point. Ie. 400,000 vehicles per day on a certain section of highway. It sounds like the Parris Peripheral Highway carries 1.2 million vehicles per day for its entire lenght.
but paris peripherique freeway is only 35 km long.
peripherique freeway is a circular freeway.
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Old August 12th, 2005, 04:29 PM   #87
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but paris peripherique freeway is only 35 km long.
peripherique freeway is a circular freeway.
Length doesn't matter, the statistics aren't the same, and therefore cannot be used for comparison purposes.

Having been on both the Paris Peripheral Freeway and the 401, I would be quite surprised if Paris' road were busier then Highway 401.

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Old August 13th, 2005, 12:29 AM   #88
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yeah 1.2 million vehicles at one point on a 6-8 lane highway is complete bullshit it would gridlock everything
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Old August 16th, 2005, 05:02 AM   #89
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What about the rest of the I-10 -- the San Bernardino part? I remember what was impressive about the I-10 coming in from Vegas and leaving town to Palm Springs is the endlessness of Los Angeles suburbs -- it is probably 100 miles on the I-10 from coming down the hills right to the ocean of endless suburbia with a bit of downtown!

It seems to be almost a tie between I-10 Santa Monica vs. 401. I think they are about even -- given statistical errors and the endless construction upgrades on both.

But I think that I-405 San Diego Freeway is a worse experience than 401. Quite a sight -- 5 to 6 lanes each carriageway all stopped while the 2 lane onramps and offramps are all jammed -- at every intersection across town (I-10, I-105, 91, 110...until I was past Newport Beach on a Thursday afternoon).
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It seems to be almost a tie between I-10 Santa Monica vs. 401. I think they are about even -- given statistical errors and the endless construction upgrades on both.
I doubt that there is a statistical error that large. You might be surprised at how accurate modern freeway traffic counters are. They can determine vehicle speed, as well as the type of vehicle. Ie. they can distinguish from cars from trucks as to not double or triple count axels.

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Old August 16th, 2005, 07:33 AM   #91
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but paris peripherique freeway is only 35 km long.
peripherique freeway is a circular freeway.
Paris's periphérique is not a motorway (or freeway): it's only a "boulevard" with priority on the right.
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Old August 17th, 2005, 06:49 AM   #92
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I doubt that there is a statistical error that large. You might be surprised at how accurate modern freeway traffic counters are. They can determine vehicle speed, as well as the type of vehicle. Ie. they can distinguish from cars from trucks as to not double or triple count axels.

Cheers.

I don't doubt that we can actually count the vehicles accurately -- we definitely have the technology.

I was referring to the sources of information (I am seeing numbers from 330K to 430K) and the counting methods -- are the with the California Department of highways and Ontario Ministry of Transport the same (e.g., exactly how they sample, exactly how they average, how they factor seasonality, how do they deal with anomalies (e.g., snow / earthquakes / accidents)) to come up with a single number of AVERAGE traffic / day.

And there is construction and improvement on both highways. Sadly, I know the situation on the 401 too intimately. When new lanes open, like the 427 curve section increasing from 3 to 4 on the east bound carriageway, traffic flows changes. And this sort of continuous upgrade is happening -- it is never ending.
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Old August 20th, 2005, 05:29 AM   #93
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Top 5 World

Canada - Toronto - Hwy-401 - Weston Rd.-Hwy-400 (Toronto-West)
407.800 (2003)

USA - Los Angeles, I-405 - Santa Ana, Seal Beach Boulevard
380.000 (2002)

USA - Los Angeles, I-5 - Lake Forest Drive
356.000 (2002)

USA - Los Angeles, CA-60 - Diamond Bar, Grand Avenue
353.000 (2002)

USA - Atlanta, I-75 - Fulton County
334.700 (2000)

7,8,9,11,12 busiest highways also in LA

http://members.a1.net/wabweb/frames/wf.htm < Full list
http://members.a1.net/wabweb/frames/euf.htm < Europe
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Old August 20th, 2005, 05:32 AM   #94
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Find a map like this from USA !

Shows amount of traffic per road in Germany
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Old August 20th, 2005, 05:35 AM   #95
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Old August 20th, 2005, 07:58 AM   #96
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US is so big, so it's hard to do a whole US traffic stats, but here's Puget Sound traffic cam and map in Seattle metro area

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Old August 20th, 2005, 05:15 PM   #97
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yeah 1.2 million vehicles at one point on a 6-8 lane highway is complete bullshit it would gridlock everything

Bullshit? On these forums?
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Old August 23rd, 2005, 10:07 PM   #98
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Bussiest freeway

I would say that the bussiest freeway of these is 401 Toronto Highway. But if we make a world ranking, I would say it´s Mexico City's Periferico Expressway. They had to make another second level above the original one in order to support the traffic.
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Old August 24th, 2005, 01:37 AM   #99
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It still doesnt beat 401's 24 lanes in some sections, AND IT'S STILL CONGESTED!

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Old August 24th, 2005, 11:18 PM   #100
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It still doesnt beat 401's 24 lanes in some sections, AND IT'S STILL CONGESTED!
24 lanes, where??

I count 18 through lanes at its widest point. Sure there may be areas where there are merge lanes that haven't ended or exited, but I am not sure that should/would count for this type of survey.

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