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Old December 13th, 2006, 12:00 PM   #1
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Barcelona Metro - maps showing L9/L10?

Are there any "official" maps of the Barcelona Metro showing the lines (L9 and L10) currently under construction? New lines and expansions are added to the London Underground map (as a dashed line) pretty much as soon as work starts, but I didn't see any showing L9/L10 when I was out there last month.

The maps showing the unified rail system also all showed R1 still going to the airport, despite the change in services from 22 July and the introduction of R10. Come to think of it, where are R8 and R9? R1-4 and R7 are Renfe Rodalies, and R5 and R6 are FGC lines, so why the missing two?
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If I'm not totally wrong there has never been any official map showing extensions or new lines under construction, at least as long as I can remember. L9/L10 won't open completely for atleast another 5 years, maybe they will open the northmost strech in 2008 but only God knows. Other subway constructions currently under way but not visible on the official map includes extension to L2 (1 station completion ?), L3 (2 stations maybe 2007) and L5 (3 stations 2009 if there are no more mishaps).

About the maps, well Cercanias and FGC print their own maps and they don't seem to cooperate at all. R8 and R9 are still only planned lines, one will run from Vilanova to Mataró via Terrassa and the other I'm not sure? They won't be built before 2015 but more likely 2020.
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Normally, lines under construction are NOT showing in Barcelona metro maps.

First part of line 9 will open in 2007-8!

The rest in 2009-10.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 03:40 PM   #4
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Normally, lines under construction are NOT showing in Barcelona metro maps.
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wrong

i have 3 original maps with lines under constr. shown on.
one of them with L3 extention:


and other two with new line L11:




and one pic taken in the far past on one station in BCN.



other maps with L9/10 are here:














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Old December 14th, 2006, 04:39 PM   #5
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Do you understand the meaning of "normally", Falubaz??

Anyway, line 9/10 is wrong in those maps... Now it is longer!
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Do you understand the meaning of "normally", Falubaz??

Anyway, line 9/10 is wrong in those maps... Now it is longer!
in che senso 'longer'? do u mean the western part? airport branch or the Zona Franca one?
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Old December 14th, 2006, 05:27 PM   #7
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46.60 km. instead of 43 km.

Changes in Zona Franca and Airport Area.
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Please, check this:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=369628

And this new map of October 2006, 46.60 km. and 51 stations:

http://www.atm-transmet.org/cat/apar...apart3_011.htm
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Awesome stuff. Many thanks Bitxofo!
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PS This is now off-topic for Subways and Urban Transport, but do you or anybody have any maps showing where they will lay the new standard-gauge track for the AVE to Figueres?
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Old December 15th, 2006, 07:12 PM   #11
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About lines R8 and R9 are:
R8 Martorell-Castellbisbal-Rubí-UAB-Mollet-Granollers Centre

Actually are all buided but only in service between UAB and Martorell on R7 line. The are neccesary to put doble track between Santa Perpètua de la Mogoda and Mollet, actually have only one track. When this line start his service R7 will be circular line--> Barcelona-Cerdanyola del Vallès-UAB-Rubí-El Papiol-Molins de Rei-L'Hospitalet-Barcelona

And R9 will be: Vilanova i la Geltrú-Vilafranca del Penedès-Martorell-Terrassa-Sabadell-Granollers-Mataró. Vilafranca-Martorell (R4), Terrassa-Sabadell (R4) and Mollet-Granollers (R2/R3) are built and in service.
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BARCELONA | Metro

The Barcelona Metro was inagurated on december 24, 1924 after two years and 9 months of construction. Today it consist of over 150 stations and 10 (soon to be 11) lines. In 2008 it transported 420 million passengers. This map show the system as of march 2010, an additional line called line 10 will be opened in april or may.

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Background and the first line

By the turn of the century the size of Barcelona had virtually exploded, from a small town enclosed behind the massive city walls it began to grow from the 1860s and onwards. To cope with the ever increasing traffic demand, the Barcelona city council decided to investigate the problem and find a solution. Two engineers working for the city council were handed the task.

Their solution to the traffic problems the city faced was an underground railway (a metro line inspired by the system in Paris), the project was handed over to the city hall which in turn asked the spanish government for a concession. The fourth of november 1907 the spanish king signed the concession granting the city the right to construct an underground railway.

This is the original route chosen, it was to be 7,2 km in length connecting the Bonanova square in Sant Gevarsi with the MZA railway station by the harbour.

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To get an idea of the route that was chosen and the traffic situation of the time, one can watch this film shot 1908 from the front of a street car, the route is the same as the would be metro line.



Evidently the construction of the line never began, the city council was not happy with the way the concession was designed and decided to refuse it. Instead they came up with the idea of constructing tunnels in connection with the urbanization of new streets. The idea behind this was that the tunnels would be used by the tramway company or perhaps even a private enterprise, the city hall of course hoping to cash in on the presumtive operator.

This way the first metro tunnel in Barcelona was born (today part of line 4), built between 1911 and 1916 it is located under Via Laietana, the new street that connected the harbour with the new expansion of the city called Eixample. However, the idea soon failed because no one was interested in the tunnel.

This photo shot around christmas 1911 show the works on the tunnel, the photographer is standing at the spot where today the Jaume I station on line 4 is located.

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Not much more happened during the second decade of the 20th century but by 1920, things started to move. First the Barcelona transversal railway company formed (Ferrocarril Metropolitano Transversal de Barcelona), hoping to capitalize on the transport needs between various places in the city, their project later became what is today line 1. A year later the Barcelona tramway company together with various banks formed the Joint stock company called Gran Metropolitano de Barcelona, they sought to revive the original project from 1907. A Project that later became what is today line 3.

Gran Metropolitano de Barcelona

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Gran Metropolitano de Barcelona was formed the 26th of may 1921 as a joint stock company. They decided to revive the project from 1907 but with some modifications, one of them was to include the tunnel built by the city.

This map show the modification to the original plan.

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The construction of the line began march 2 1922 (july 21, 1921 the inagural stone was laid down) and was inagurated by the king Alfonso XIII, december 24 1924, 17 years after he signed the concession.

The construction method used was cut and cover, they also used the belgian tunneling method.

Construction at Las Ramblas

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Construction at Plaza Cataluña (today Plaça Catalunya)

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Construction at Lesseps station, the deepest on the line (17,5 meters below street level).

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To be able to use the tunnel built by the city (it was built with trams in mind) Gran Metropolitano de Barcelona had to adapt the loading gauge by lowering the tunnel floor.

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The original rollingstock was built in Bilbao by a basque manufacturer, the design of the cars took inspiration from an american model, all the electrical equipment was provided by General Electric. A similar design was bought by the London District Railway in 1903.

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The model was used in commercial traffic until 1987 when all but one set was scrapped. This is the only remaining set of the original stock.

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The interrior

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The station design

The Catalan square (Plaça Catalunya), here one can se that they used catenary rather than third rail. The original plan was to use a 500V third rail.

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Aragon, today called Passeig de Gracia

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The inspiration from the Paris metro was most evident in the design of the station entrances, with similar wrought iron decorations. Three of the stations also got an above ground ticket hall, today only Fontana (later rebuilt) remain.

Lesseps

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Urquinaona

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Since the line was buillt in an already urbanized part of the city, there was no large empty space to fit the workshops. Instead they built the maintenance facility above the line providing acces for the rail cars with an elevator capable of lifting the 37 tonne cars the 20 meters in height differance.

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The metro in 1924

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In 1932 the first mechanical escalator in Barcelona was installed at the Aragón station, it had perviously been used as a showpiece for the 1929 World's Fair.

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After the spanish civil war Gran Metropolitano de Barcelona was short on funds and the system deteriorated with station maintenance put on hold. This picture taken in 1949 at the Jaime I station show damage due to water filtration, the city faces heavy rain every year during autumn and spring. Even today after operating for more than 85 years the metro still has problems with water filtration and occasionally parts of the metro has had to close down due to inundation.

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Thank you so much for the information. I rode the system extensively when I was visiting my partners family. I always wanted to learn more about it. Is there a museum in Barcelona dedicated to public transport? Once again, thanks for all the pictures and video.
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My God, keep posting!!

Very interesting thread - I love the early maps.
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Is there a museum in Barcelona dedicated to public transport?
Unfortunately no, there have been plans but nothing yet. Lack of a adequate facility and funding are the main problems. One other problem might be lack of interest, when the tram network was shut down, the tram museum was supposed to be located in one of the tram workshops but 40 years later still no tram museum exist.

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Ferrocarril Metropolitano Transversal de Barcelona
The history behind this metro line (today line 1) start in the year 1912 when engineer Ferran Reyes proposed a railway tunnel through the city that would link the peripheral parts of the city with the city center, the railway line was supposed to improve transport to/from and between several railway stations that existed in Barcelona. Reyes together with the help of several influential people lobbied for the project in the press with several debates following for and against the tunnel.

In the year 1920 a joint stock company called Ferrocarril Metropolitano de Barcelona was established. It was formed by private associations that wanted to realize the line envisioned by Reyes.

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The inaugural stone was laid down at Plaza España on the 8th of June 1922 with the king present. However, no real construction was started until February the following year, the line was inagurated on the 10th of June 1926.
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The project included several planned extensions that were never realized.
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Since the metro tunnel was supposed to be able to handle also ordinary railway traffic, the gauge was the same as the national railway network, 1674 mm. Everything else was also built to railway standards rather than metro standards with the exception of the third rail and the stations, they were only supposed to be used by the metro service. The stations were all built with a similar design, the platforms were 88 meters long and 5 meters wide, the stations were spaced 500 meters apart.

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The construction was very complicated with several mortal accidents, one of them that occurred in April 1924 killed 11 workers. Because of the heavy traffic of trams, cars, lorries, horses and pedestrians, cut and cover was not an option so instead they used the Austrian tunneling method.
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A typical street scene where the tunnel ran, this being the university square were several tramlines passed.

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This being a metro service running in a railway tunnel, they had the possibility to use rather large sized rolling stock. The original cars used by Ferrocarril Metropolitano de Barcelona were the largest metro cars ever built when they started to run commercial service in 1926. With a length of slightly more than 21 meters and a width of 3,4 meters and a capacity of 330 people, they were larger than the then largest cars in use, belonging to the New York metro.
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Being so large the metro cars were also very heavy, weighting 77 tonnes each (fully loaded), more than twice the weight of the cars used by Gran metropolitano de Barcelona. Here one of them at the old university station (rebuilt in the 1970s).

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To be able to cross the Gran Metropolitano de Barcelona line at Plaza Cataluña, they had to install a 420 tonne bridge, manufactured in Cadiz.

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Unlike in the case of Gran Metropolitano de Barcelona, Ferrocarril Metropolitano de Barcelona reached far outside of the city where empty space for the maintenance facility existed.

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The south end station of the line, this was the situation for 50 years before the line was extended and the station was moved to its present location beside the workshops.
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The Plaza España station during the 1929 world fair. The left track was used for the visitors to the fair and was later removed. This particular station was the most complicated to build because of the very large vault it required, some newspaper article written at the time of the construction state that it was the larges in the world of its type.
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The Rocafort station, supposedly the most haunted station on the network, it also has the highest suicide rate amogs all stations.

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The university station

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Plaza Cataluña station in 1928 with the suburban train service in the middle and the metro service running on the sides, notice the lower heght on the platform used by the suburban trains. Originally Ferran Reyes had envisioned a new grand central railway station for Barcelona located below Plaza Cataluña, however this never materialized but instead the suburban train service was extended into the city center through a new railway tunnel.

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Some of the station entrances for Ferrocarril Metropolitano Transversal de Barcelona

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Ferrocarril de Sarriá a Barcelona

The third company to open a metro service in Barcelona was Ferrocarril de Sarriá a Barcelona, who in 1929 after having rebuilt its railway line as an underground line, launched a metro service, today named line 6. The history behind this line start in 1863 when the Barcelona-Sarria railway line is opened. Originally built with broad gauge and operated as an ordinary railwayline, in 1905 it was electrified and regauged to UIC standard.


The Barcelona-Sarria and later Sarria-Barcelona railway station at Plaza Cataluña, the building was demolished when the station was rebuilt as an underground station in 1929.
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The line passing through the city at street level was not very popular amongs the citizens, numerous deaths caused by run overs caused much controversy over the way the line was operated. In 1915 a mob of angry citizens unsuccessfully tried to burn down the Plaza Cataluña station after a young boy was killed by a train.
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Provenza station, one of the four underground stations built in 1929
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Avenida de Tibidabo station, opened in 1954 although actually built in the mid 1920s.
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Construction of the tunnel today used by line 7, it was built by the city council in connection with the extension of the Balmes street. Although built in the first half of the 1920s, the tunnel would not be used until 1954. During the spanish civil war, it was used to store ammunition. The photographer is standing at the present Plaça Kennedy looking down towards Montjuïc (barely visible).

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Fantastic thread!

1- The video of Barcelona in 1908 = a jewel!!! So many bicycles hehe

2- The solution of lowering the floor to make the tunnel higher = priceless

3 - The maintenance elevator due to lack of space = genius, I never heard of such a contraption before.

4 - It amazes me that the old documents and pictures never used Catalan, but Spanish, even station names were in Spanish, when were they "Catalanized"?
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It amazes me that the old documents and pictures never used Catalan, but Spanish, even station names were in Spanish, when were they "Catalanized"?
I´m no expert but i think it has to do with the dictatorship of Primo de Rivera, just as in the case of the Franco dictatorship when catalan was heavily surpressed. In any case I see now that I´ve mixed Spanish, Catalan and English totally random but I was in a hurry so had no time to check for errors. By request I can change it to whatever language.
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