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Old July 29th, 2014, 06:27 AM   #501
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Good to read that line 9 (and 10 for that matter), are -finally- getting closer to completion.
Er... as a matter of fact, the L9/L10 project is rather far from completion.

The new extension from Collblanc to Aeroport T1 is only another stretch, albeit rather long.

The southern branch of L10, and in particular the central (and crucial) section between Collblanc and Sagrera are very far from completion - some parts of the tunnel haven´t even been bored, the two TBMs are stranded, one at Lesseps, the other at Manuel Girona.
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Old July 29th, 2014, 12:56 PM   #502
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Er... as a matter of fact, the L9/L10 project is rather far from completion.
I did notice that.


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The new extension from Collblanc to Aeroport T1 is only another stretch, albeit rather long.
At least it has connections to other lines in the city, it's better than nothing at all.

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The southern branch of L10, and in particular the central (and crucial) section between Collblanc and Sagrera are very far from completion - some parts of the tunnel haven´t even been bored, the two TBMs are stranded, one at Lesseps, the other at Manuel Girona.
Did they remove the TBMs from the sites and proceeding using A different method?
Are the TBMs just halted untill extra construction measures are made to aid to the TBMs in digging?

Could be you or someone else already put the info online, i have bad memory which means i forgot where.

Kind regards, and keep up the very nice & informative postings.

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Old July 29th, 2014, 01:39 PM   #503
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Due to lack of funds, construction of the central part of the line has been halted. The two TBM are still there, nobody knows when they'll start working again.

All available funds are meanwhile allocated to the construction of the Airport section, which has been given top priority and will enter service in early 2016.
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Old July 29th, 2014, 01:47 PM   #504
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@Arctic_carlos:
Oke, thank you for the information.
That was posted earlier, i forgot.
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Old July 29th, 2014, 06:04 PM   #505
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Did they remove the TBMs from the sites and proceeding using A different method?

Are the TBMs just halted untill extra construction measures are made to aid to the TBMs in digging?
The TBMs are halted, more than stranded. It is not known what the authorities will do. They said that in one year they´d remove the Lesseps TMB, right from the place where it is now, instead of Mandri as it was originally planned (the area around Mandri is one of the poshest in the city and the neighbours don´t want problems that disturb their peaceful, quiet and only-onesque lives), and they´d end the tunneling with the Manuel Girona TMB. But many things can happen in one year, despite the announcement, and many money seems to have fled from L9/L10, more than it should. The judges are behind it.

The economical crisis in Spain is nothing compared to the crisis of confidence between the Spaniards and their politicians (loads of corruption cases have been made public lately, people are extremely angry).
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Old July 29th, 2014, 06:42 PM   #506
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Funny. The same day I started my metro Tour during my stay in Barcelona. It took me 8 h to ride all stations oft lines 1 to 11. Only Skipped some oft L8 in the outer part.
8 hours for our 165 metro stations?


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I will be visiting Barcelona soon, what is the best solution for transport tickets? Hola BCN cards give access to all transport within Barcelona zone 1 including the train from the Airport? (El Prat-Passeig de Gracia at least where i have to change for a metro).
The difference with T-Dia is that T-Dia is for one day only and the Hola BCN start at 2 days onwards? Or there are more differences?
The validity when stamping a ticket 24h or until midnight of the same day (if with a T-Dia)? Is it necessary to stamp at each travel or change?

And finally, what are the best ways (and cheaper) to travel to Girona and Tarragona? Train, bus? Can i buy tickets at RENFE stations like Sants etc and go directly from Barcelona using the Rodalies? Or it's not the Rodalies but regular trains?

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Forget the very expensive HOLA BCN cards and you better buy T10 or T50, or T70 if you are more than 1 person!

Also the validity of HOLA BCN cards expires every day at midnight, and you cannot use night buses with them. Avoid HOLA BCN cards!

From BCN to Girona and Tarragona you can book in advance AVE (the high speed train), it is 40 minutes by AVE and you can find cheap tickets starting at 9 euros!
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From BCN to Girona and Tarragona you can book in advance AVE (the high speed train), it is 40 minutes by AVE and you can find cheap tickets starting at 9 euros!
Do NOT go from Barcelona to Tarragona by AVE, the Camp de Tarragona AVE station is not in the city, but 8 km away from the city centre, and you´ll have to get a bus (or worse, a taxi) to go to Tarragona city, and overall, it will take you longer than taking the classic regional train (and if you take a taxi, far more expensive -the taxi ride from Camp de Tarragona AVE station to Tarragona city won´t cost you anything under €20, and that, considering that you got the cheapest AVE fare at €9 one way, which could happen, but it´s not all that likely, around €15 one way would be more usual).

And €15 is what would cost you a return ticket from Barcelona to Tarragona centre station on the classic line.

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8 hours for our 165 metro stations?
Well, I didn´t get off at every station, only where I was supoosed to spot something interesting or where the station design looked as it must be kept on a picture. So I started around 10:00 AM art Urgell, finishing there at 06:00 PM. I rode L1 to L11, only skipping L8 stations after crossing L1 at L`Hospitalet. BTW, this display with yellow numbers and letters I saw at every station seems to be something for the train-protection and location system, but I´m not sure:

https://imageshack.com/i/patpdVhqj



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Old July 30th, 2014, 11:48 AM   #509
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These are all the train interiors of the L-prefix lines network in 2014.

I called FGC about the 211 series yesterday... and yes: as we both predicted, Wikipedia lied again.

L1–4000 and 6000 series


L2–9000 (manual) series


L3–2000, 3000 and 5000 series


L4–2100 and 9000 (manual) series


L5–5000 series


L6/L7–111, 112 and 113 series


L8–213 series


L9/L10–9000 (automatic) series


L11–500 series


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@Antje, nice pictures would be nice if there's A decent international thread where all public transport e.g. Busses, Trams, Metro's, Ferries would get their pictures categorised by model and service/line they are doing.
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Old August 4th, 2014, 06:58 PM   #511
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L1–Avinguda Carrilet

Barcelona Metro 6004 at Avinguda Carrilet by κύριαsity, on Flickr
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If only TfL and AMEL acknowledged my efforts for my home city (i.e. London)!

https://twitter.com/TMB_Barcelona/st...66320834805760
https://twitter.com/TMB_Barcelona/st...13090959364096

So without further ado, the status of the trains' exteriors 90 years on:

L1–4000 and 6000 series


L2–9000 (manual) series


L3–2000, 3000 and 5000 series


I've not found any type of train outside Barcelona with instantly recognisable "ears" (older trains have retractable mirrors and the 9000s are reasonably camouflaged).

L4–2100 and 9000 (manual) series


"404: TRAIN NOT FOUND? It's right there for crying out loud..."

L5–5000 series


L6/L7–111, 112 and 113 series


L8–213 series


London Overground really needs to provide (proper) device charger facilities.

L9/L10–9000 (automatic) series


You guessed it: all the L9/L10 stations have platform edge doors.



At least TMB left one station on L11 without platform edge doors.

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Pretty nice collection.
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At least TMB left one station on L11 without platform edge doors.
Trinitat Nova platform seems to have infrared surveyence of tracks as I saw several yellow things at track-level, looking like this system. Unfortunately imageshack is not that easy anymore to post pictures here I made. Maybe I´m just not clever enough to do it

Not a real surprise but interesting fact for me, that line 11 trains are integrated in line 4 operation sheme, having train numbers beginning with 4xx. Line 11 could be an extension of line 4 one day, but some station distances and platforms are very short. So operation seems to be handled internal as a line 4b, like it was for many years line 3 and line3b, merging at Paral-lel if I recall correctly.
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Line 11 could be an extension of line 4 one day, but some station distances and platforms are very short.
I'd forget about any northbound extension of L4.
L11 stations should be massively rebuilt, and it would be tremendously expensive, as the only extension that would make sense (manner of speaking) is to Montcada-Santa Maria railway station (to connect with Rodalies Renfe line R4), and that's not enough passengers.

It has to be said that the authorities of the time when it was built promised a full metro extension of L4, then a new line that "could be upgraded to full metro". They lied. So Barcelona had L11 instead. It's ok as a line, though. And it's used a bit as a guinea pig for tests and new things.

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So operation seems to be handled internal as a line 4b, like it was for many years line 3 and line3b, merging at Paral-lel if I recall correctly.
There's no way that L4 and L11 can merge. L11 is automatic, with 2-car trains, short platforms and platform screen doors excepting at Trinitat Nova, which hasn't PSDs as it shares tracks and platform with L4.
L4 is not automatic, has no platform screen doors, and uses 5-car trains.
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L9/L10-Zona Universitària station (under construction).

We're still not sure about what is it that they're doing, but it looks very much like the works of the station have restarted.

We'll try and keep you informed about it.

Theoretically this one should open by 2016, but it's far too delayed, many of us think that they'll be able to open only the section between Collblanc and Aeroport T1.
We'll see how they overcome that delay.

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437.001, could you tell me how large those magnificent tunnel entrances to L9/L10 are in width? (depth varies per station)
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437.001, could you tell me how large those magnificent tunnel entrances to L9/L10 are in width? (depth varies per station)
What exactly do you mean by "tunnel entrances"?
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The diametre of the tunnel entrances is between 28 and 36 metres.

Click here and check it:
http://www.geocontrol.es/metros/line...barcelona.html

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Ok, so that's called a tunnel entrance, and not a tunnel portal?
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