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Old November 20th, 2014, 08:28 PM   #581
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Old November 20th, 2014, 10:16 PM   #582
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L9-Extension between Aeroport T1 and Zona UniversitÓria (under construction)

New images of the works at Collblanc and Zona UniversitÓria stations, after the start of the test runs between Aeroport T1 and Mas Blau stations:

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Today I've taken a walk around the area of the least advanced stations of this stretch (Collblanc, Camp Nou, and Zona UniversitÓria).

Collblanc

At last, there's some movement to finish the last things left.
On the pic you can see this crane, it was moving some big ThyssenKrupp Elevadores boxes, although when I turned up it wasn't working. I guess they're installing the escalators, the lift between street and ticket hall, or both.



Btw, the emergency exit has been broken. They've had to protect it with fences like the ones in the pic.


Camp Nou

I didn't take pictures here (no visible changes on the street level), but there was a lot of movement of lorries coming and going, and the yellow giant crane was working at full pelt.


Zona UniversitÓria

It's where you can see the most activity, right now. There were lots of workers and lorries coming and going, more than at Camp Nou. The works reach the entrance of the Royal Polo Club.




A closer picture. Festival of cranes, also working at full pelt



This is the emergency exit, or one of them. Or so I believe
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Old November 21st, 2014, 08:19 PM   #583
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What is the -planned- commercial/average speed going to be of line 9 when it's finally finished?

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Old November 22nd, 2014, 03:46 AM   #584
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I don't know, but the part that's currently open is the fastest line on the system.

The section that's open of L10 is like 30 km/h of average speed, or something like that, if I remember correctly.
The section that's open of L9 is a bit slower, but only a bit.

So one would suspect that it would still be the fastest when it's totally finished (longer interstations, wider bends, PSDs, etc)...
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Old November 23rd, 2014, 12:20 AM   #585
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At the moment, the commercial speed in Line 9 is 29,25kph, and in Line 10 is 32,40kph. (source)
But, in http://www.trenscat.com/tmb/metrol9_ct.html, appears 33kph when all the line is completed, and 80kph the maximum speed.
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Old November 23rd, 2014, 10:25 AM   #586
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At the moment, the commercial speed in Line 9 is 29,25kph, and in Line 10 is 32,40kph. (source)
But, in http://www.trenscat.com/tmb/metrol9_ct.html, appears 33kph when all the line is completed, and 80kph the maximum speed.
What is the maximum speed in the existing network, 70 km/h?
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What is the maximum speed in the existing network, 70 km/h?
At the moment, the most of the trains are new, so I think the maximum speed is 70-80kph, yes.
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Old November 23rd, 2014, 02:18 PM   #588
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NEWS: L9 extension between Zona UniversitÓria and Aeroport T1.

The authorities have travelled today between Aeroport T1 and Aeroport T2, on the new extension of L9.

They've said that the new section (between Zona UniversitÓria and Aeroport T1) will be open by February 2016, once all the test runs are over.

They've also said that the frequency will be of a train every 7 minutes, and that tickets to/from Aeroport T1 and Aeroport T2 will have special fare (more expensive), while all the other stations will be in zone 1.

It will be the biggest extension ever of the Barcelona metro, 15 stations in one go. They expect 25 million passengers per year.
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L9-Extension between Zona UniversitÓria and Aeroport T1.

Test runs have started between Mas Blau and Aeroport T1 stations.
The press and authorities visited the section between Aeroport T1 and Aeroport T2.

Source of all the images: El Digital D Barcelona

At Aeroport T1 station:

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On board, between Aeroport T1 and Aeroport T2:

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Entrance to Aeroport T2 station, On the right we can tell the Aeroport station of the Rodalies (commuter rail) line R2:

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Old November 30th, 2014, 04:57 AM   #592
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So finally the airport extension is open..
That's nice for transfers to the stadium
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Old November 30th, 2014, 08:24 AM   #593
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So finally the airport extension is open..
That's nice for transfers to the stadium
Opening is 2016, section is still testing
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Old November 30th, 2014, 09:08 AM   #594
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Won't it still be considerably faster to take R2 from T2 to Sants and change to metro there?
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Won't it still be considerably faster to take R2 from T2 to Sants and change to metro there?
It's an option, but R2 to El Prat station and change to L9 here is better because there are more trains and more frequencies. Remember the line between El Prat station and Airport is in single track and it's impossible to set more of two trains per hour, and the time of displacement it's higher (between BCN Sants to El Prat is 10', and between Airport is 18').

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So finally the airport extension is open..
No, it isn't open yet.

But I wouldn't discard any partial opening (say, Aeroport T1-Torrassa and then the other sections, for instance).
The only official date they gave was "Zona UniversitÓria to Aeroport T1 by February 2016".

The thing, though, is that opening 15 stations in one go is rather juicy in electoral/political terms, that's true.

But partial openings aren't that bad in those terms, either... they give the impression that "they do more things for the people"...

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That's nice for transfers to the stadium
No, Camp Nou station will not open in this phase yet, nor anytime soon.
Why? Because the two TBMs boring the central section of L9/L10 are halted (and have been halted for a few years now), one at Lesseps (and the authorities say it might be retired at Lesseps itself), and the other at Manuel Girona, and the Manuel Girona TBM uses the Camp Nou shaft as the point of extraction of materials.

The extension of L9 between Zona Universitaria and Aeroport T1 will be operated as two different lines.

One section will be Collblanc-Aeroport T1, which will be operated normally in double track, like the other lines.

And the other section will be Collblanc-Zona UniversitÓria, which will be operated as a shuttle in single track for the time being, with only one train, as only the superior platform will be opened, while the inferior platform will stay as the place to take the materials from the Manuel Girona TBM to the Camp Nou shaft.

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It's an option, but R2 to El Prat station and change to L9 here is better because there are more trains and more frequencies. Remember the line between El Prat station and Airport is in single track and it's impossible to set more of two trains per hour, and the time of displacement it's higher (between BCN Sants to El Prat is 10', and between Airport is 18').

Cheers!
Don't forget that the section of R2 between El Prat and Aeroport T2 could still be double-tracked. Well, if the authorities were half-intelligent, they would do it.
Why isn't this section double-tracked yet? Good question, ask them...
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Man, that L9/L10 situation is complicated.

So the metro does pass Camp nou, but the stop isn't built yet..

Oke, I need to read better..
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Man, that L9/L10 situation is complicated.
A bit.

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So the metro does pass Camp nou, but the stop isn't built yet..
By February 2016, when it opens, like the rest of the extension to the airport, L9 shuttle trains will pass through Camp Nou without calling there, and the station won't be built by then at all, as the Camp Nou shaft will still be theoretically in use.
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L9-Extension between Zona UniversitÓria and Aeroport T1.

Test runs have started between Mas Blau and Aeroport T1 stations.
The press and authorities visited the section between Aeroport T1 and Aeroport T2.

Source of all the images: El Digital D Barcelona

So the new subway station is built next to the existing train station but the future train station will be located further towards the terminal. Wouldn't it have been more sensible to build the subway station closer to where the train station will be located in the future?
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So the new subway station is built next to the existing train station but the future train station will be located further towards the terminal.
I wouldn' t pay much attention to what politicians or journalists say.
I for one don't believe that the extension they propose will ever open (under the airport runways and in deltaic soil? That would not be cheap...).

Besides, once this new extension opens, I think that we should be able to see how many passengers really use it, and by how much it will increase the use of commuter rail and its connection to the metro.

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Wouldn't it have been more sensible to build the subway station closer to where the train station will be located in the future?
That would have been the theory, yes. But then there's politicians.
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