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Old December 2nd, 2014, 05:27 AM   #601
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Won't it still be considerably faster to take R2 from T2 to Sants and change to metro there?
Fastest options in 2016:
-Metro from T1 to el Prat Renfe station and there you take the train to city centre (Passeig de Gràcia). Total: 28-30 min.
-Train from T2 to city centre (Passeig de Gràcia). Total: 24 min.

Politicians say that, in 2016, the train ticket or the metro ticket from BCN Airport to city centre will cost 6 or 7 euros per person...
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That is, the fastest option if you go to Passeig de Gràcia.

But not if you want to go to Plaça Espanya, in which case the fastest option would be L9 till Europa-Fira, and then FGC from Europa-Fira to Plaça Espanya (and yes I am aware of Bellvitge/Gornal but you do not want to change there).
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 04:17 PM   #603
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Sure, but I was talking about arriving from BCN airport to Barcelona centre!
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 05:03 PM   #604
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That is, the fastest option if you go to Passeig de Gràcia.

But not if you want to go to Plaça Espanya, in which case the fastest option would be L9 till Europa-Fira, and then FGC from Europa-Fira to Plaça Espanya (and yes I am aware of Bellvitge/Gornal but you do not want to change there).
That option will only be suitable for those using integrated tickets, like T-10. For those using single ride tickets (I guess most tourists arriving in the Airport), they have to buy another ticket to transfer in Europa-Fira from L9 to FGC. It will be cheaper to transfer from L9 to L1 in Torrassa, as both lines are operated by TMB and therefore there is no need to buy another ticket.

Hopefully by 2016 the new T-mobilitat (our "Oyster") will be in service and we won't have to worry about that...
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 07:42 PM   #605
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That option will only be suitable for those using integrated tickets, like T-10. For those using single ride tickets (I guess most tourists arriving in the Airport), they have to buy another ticket to transfer in Europa-Fira from L9 to FGC.
Well, tourists like us this year, prefer to use the airport-bus which is fast, reliable and not expensive. It´s the best way to reach most hotels around Placa Catalunya and Placa Espanya. Metro would be not faster and to change lines with luggage is nothing comfortable, especially in Barcelona.

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Can't you buy T-10 at the airport? Most tourists will need it later anyway. Like in most really large cities there isn't just one central place where all or most tourists would want to go from the airport.

Barcelona has possibly the cheapest public transport from the airport to the city centre in Europe. Too bad it's not going to last…
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Well, tourists like us this year, prefer to use the airport-bus which is fast, reliable and not expensive. It´s the best way to reach most hotels around Placa Catalunya and Placa Espanya. Metro would be not faster and to change lines with luggage is nothing comfortable, especially in Barcelona.
That's true if you stay in that area, but not everyone does. We were also in Barcelona this year and rented an apartment in Poble-Sec neighbourhood to be out of the main tourist area. It was a good choice.
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 08:51 PM   #608
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Well, tourists like us this year, prefer to use the airport-bus which is fast, reliable and not expensive. It´s the best way to reach most hotels around Placa Catalunya and Placa Espanya. Metro would be not faster and to change lines with luggage is nothing comfortable, especially in Barcelona.

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If Aerobús does not disappear, then it will not run every 6 minutes like now, it will run every 30 minutes or less...

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Can't you buy T-10 at the airport? Most tourists will need it later anyway. Like in most really large cities there isn't just one central place where all or most tourists would want to go from the airport.

Barcelona has possibly the cheapest public transport from the airport to the city centre in Europe. Too bad it's not going to last…
Yes, you can buy T10 at the BCN Airport:
-In the tobacco shop of Terminal 1 (ESTANCO).
-In the train station of Terminal 2 (RENFE).

Public bus 46 ticket from BCN Airport to Barcelona costs now 2.15€. Renfe train ticket now costs 4.10€.
In 2016, the metro ticket will cost 6 or 7 euros per person from BCN Airport to city centre!

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That's true if you stay in that area, but not everyone does. We were also in Barcelona this year and rented an apartment in Poble-Sec neighbourhood to be out of the main tourist area. It was a good choice.
From BCN airport to Poble Sec you can take bus 46 running every 15 min. The price is 2.15€ per person.


By the way:
Public transportation rates will be "frozen" in Barcelona for 2015, no increases because there will be elections...
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Old December 14th, 2014, 02:15 PM   #609
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Espanya

Station opened in June 1926. Interchange with metro line 3 and FGC (L8 - S4 - S8 - S33 - R5 - R6 - R50 - R60).

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Old December 24th, 2014, 10:39 PM   #610
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Catalonia Railways introduces new trains
Wednesday, December 24, 2014



CATALONIA Government Railways (FGC) is celebrating the entry of the first two of seven new three-car class 114 trains purchased from a CAF-Alstom consortium for its standard-gauge Barcelona Metro line L7, which runs 7km from Plaça Catalunya to Avinguda Tibidabo

The trains entered service on December 23 following a ceremony attended by the Catalan automonous government regional minister for territory and sustainability Mr Santi Vila, and the chairman of FGC Mr Enric Ticó. FGC placed the order with Alstom-CAF in November 2009.

The 60m-long trains have a maximum capacity of 605 passengers, which is an increase of 30 over the class 111 trains that they are replacing. Each of the five new trains has been given a female name which was selected following suggestions from organisations served by L7

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Old December 30th, 2014, 09:07 AM   #611
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Hola! estos trenes no eran ya en servicio en el mes de Agosto? estuve en Barcelona de vacaciones y circule con uno de estos trenes en la L7 o L6.
O no se refieren a los trenes de la foto?
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Old December 30th, 2014, 04:19 PM   #612
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Los que tu viste eran la serie 113, que es idéntica a esta serie 114, la única diferencia destacable es que las 114 tienen tres vagones porque en la línea que sirven (la L7) es una línea con andenes de 60 metros, y los trenes 113 no caben.
Con estas nuevas 114 se despide completamente la serie 111, que era la que servía únicamente a la L7 hasta hoy.
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Old December 30th, 2014, 05:52 PM   #613
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Hola! estos trenes no eran ya en servicio en el mes de Agosto? estuve en Barcelona de vacaciones y circule con uno de estos trenes en la L7 o L6.
O no se refieren a los trenes de la foto?
You saw 113 series.
The new trains are 114 series, these new trains are shorter!
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Los que tu viste eran la serie 113, que es idéntica a esta serie 114, la única diferencia destacable es que las 114 tienen tres vagones porque en la línea que sirven (la L7) es una línea con andenes de 60 metros, y los trenes 113 no caben.
Con estas nuevas 114 se despide completamente la serie 111, que era la que servía únicamente a la L7 hasta hoy.
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For English readers, @davroca5 was saying that the 114 series trains are virtually the same as the 113 series, just shorter (3 cars instead of 4 cars) because of the short length of the platforms on L7 (at 60 metres). The short platforms were the reason that kept the 111 series going (since 1983), until now.

Speaking of which, I wonder if FGC ever thought of "selective door operation" if passenger numbers continue to grow, like we do on the London Underground?
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For English readers, @davroca5 was saying that the 114 series trains are virtually the same as the 113 series, just shorter (3 cars instead of 4 cars) because of the short length of the platforms on L7 (at 60 metres). The short platforms were the reason that kept the 111 series going (since 1983), until now.
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Speaking of which, I wonder if FGC ever thought of "selective door operation" if passenger numbers continue to grow, like we do on the London Underground?
FGC uses this system in some stations, like Peu del Funicular. In this station, the 112 and 113 units (units with four cars) can't open all the doors of the train, so one car of the train can't open the doors because this car stays in the tunnel.



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Old December 31st, 2014, 05:22 PM   #617
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Very unusual!
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Very unusual, what?
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Possibly unusual in that the passengers in the last car might not be able to alight at the station at all if the connecting doors were locked. In London, at least one door from the leading and trailing car is open: however, the S7/8 Stock seems the make such idea unnecessary since it is easier to move between cars.
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I know, I know, but what I don't get is why he seems to be so surprised when he already knows that...
It might be unusual elsewhere, and yes it's not common at all in most stations, but we're more than used to these little FGC oddities...
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