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Old October 12th, 2016, 12:41 AM   #901
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It's too early too talk about L10 sud frequencies, but it seems this new branch won't affect the frequencies of L9 sud, as currently there's a L9 train to the airport every 7 minutes, which leaves plenty of room for additional services.

Once the whole L9/10 project is completed, there should be 6 minute frequencies on both branches, leaving the common stretch with a 3 minute frequency.
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Old October 12th, 2016, 01:17 AM   #902
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OK, thanks very much for all the information, arctic_carlos.
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Old December 8th, 2016, 03:13 AM   #903
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Discovery of hot springs at Fondo station (L9 north).



Thermal water, at a temperature of up to 60ºC, has been discovered thanks to a leak in the metro tunnel.

It seems it's rather big (big enough for a spa), and spans the area between Santa Rosa and Església Major stations.

L9 north keeps on operating as usual.

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Old December 8th, 2016, 03:15 AM   #904
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Are there any numbers on what % of passengers and workers at BCN now use the subway, the Cercanías or drive to/from the airport?
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Old December 8th, 2016, 05:51 PM   #905
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Inner Barcelona uses public transport (metro, bus, tram) a lot, by Spanish standards.
Metropolitan Barcelona is much more enslaved by the car, its use of public transport (bus, tram, metro, commuter rail), even if it exists, is much lower.
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Inner Barcelona uses public transport (metro, bus, tram) a lot, by Spanish standards.
Metropolitan Barcelona is much more enslaved by the car, its use of public transport (bus, tram, metro, commuter rail), even if it exists, is much lower.
I used BCN as a reference to El Prat Airport, not to the city, sorry. I wanted to know if the new Linea 9-a/b changed things.
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Old December 9th, 2016, 12:33 AM   #907
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I used BCN as a reference to El Prat Airport, not to the city, sorry. I wanted to know if the new Linea 9-a/b changed things.
Then this is a question for Bitxofo. He knows that better than me.

Let's wait for him to read these few last posts.
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Old December 9th, 2016, 02:43 AM   #908
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I used BCN as a reference to El Prat Airport, not to the city, sorry. I wanted to know if the new Linea 9-a/b changed things.
Metro L9 sud is mainly used by airport workers, because we do not pay the supplement of 4.50€ per trip. This is sure, I see it daily: always airport staff in every train!

Passengers still prefer Aerobús in Terminal 1 if they are going to city centre. In Terminal 2 they prefer the Rodalies train, for the city centre.
But, passengers of Terminal 1 who are not going to city centre, they prefer to take the metro!

In Terminal 2 the metro is not very used. People prefer the train or the bus 46.

We have got 1 Tourist Office inside the metro station Aeroport T1 and another one in the metro station Aeroport T2.
The 1st one is always full of people.
The 2nd one has reduced opening hours because it was not very busy...

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Then this is a question for Bitxofo. He knows that better than me.

Let's wait for him to read these few last posts.
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Remark: L9 sud is a very useful public transport for airport workers!
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Old December 9th, 2016, 07:56 AM   #909
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For my stay in Barcelona in 2014 I asked a friend living there for Long time, how to get into the city (in my case near Urgell-station). He was really surprised about using the train as the airport-bus is the best way to get from the center to the airport. I hardly know any airport-service beeing this convenient. It´s cheap, runs very often and is reliable.
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Old December 9th, 2016, 02:48 PM   #910
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Where does the bus go to (i mean in town)? I never used it, always Rodalies.
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It goes to Espanya via Gran Via and splits into a Loop via Gran Via and Sepulveda via Gran Via. Don´t remember if it even runs further east
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Old December 9th, 2016, 04:46 PM   #912
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It has its terminus in Plaça Catalunya, but it also stops in Plaça Espanya (I don't know if it has any intermediate stops between both squares).

The Aerobús is a reliable means of transportation, but it's also affected by traffic jams, especially on the southern entrance of Barcelona (Gran Via) during morning and afternoon rush hours. At least between 7 and 9 am and between 5 and 8 pm the trip can be 10-15 minutes longer.
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Old December 9th, 2016, 05:09 PM   #913
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It has its terminus in Plaça Catalunya, but it also stops in Plaça Espanya (I don't know if it has any intermediate stops between both squares).
Between both squares it depends of the direction:

When you're going to Pl. Catalunya, there is two more stops, one in Gran Via - Urgell and the other in Pl. Universitat.

Direction to the Airport the stop is Sepúlveda-Urgell.
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Old December 9th, 2016, 05:16 PM   #914
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For my stay in Barcelona in 2014 I asked a friend living there for Long time, how to get into the city (in my case near Urgell-station). He was really surprised about using the train as the airport-bus is the best way to get from the center to the airport. I hardly know any airport-service beeing this convenient. It´s cheap, runs very often and is reliable.
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It has its terminus in Plaça Catalunya, but it also stops in Plaça Espanya (I don't know if it has any intermediate stops between both squares).

The Aerobús is a reliable means of transportation, but it's also affected by traffic jams, especially on the southern entrance of Barcelona (Gran Via) during morning and afternoon rush hours. At least between 7 and 9 am and between 5 and 8 pm the trip can be 10-15 minutes longer.
Aerobús is convenient ONLY if you are going to Espanya, Urgell, Universitat or Catalunya!
And ONLY out of rush hours of traffic!


Anyway, the Aerobús is not convenient for airport workers because it is very expensive: 5.90€ every single trip...


The metro is the best solution for airport staff because we do NOT pay any supplement!!
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Old December 11th, 2016, 10:10 PM   #915
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The announcements in the trains of L9 Sud are spoken in three languages (Catalan, Spanish and English) and in my opinion, they are really annoying! Especially the announcement of the direction of the train after every station and the information that the train stops "at all stations"... Why shouldn't it? What will happen to the announcements, when L9 is complete? Will the whole line get this annoying scheme of announcements?
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Also locals complain about that.

Given that all trains stop "at all stations", there's actually no need to provide that information to passengers.

The information of the direction of the train will be necessary in the short term, though, when L10 sud opens and the trains from both lines start sharing tracks between Can Tries Gornal and Collblanc station. But currently there's no need for it.
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Especially the announcement of the direction of the train after every station and the information that the train stops "at all stations"... Why shouldn't it?
Well, the FGC subway network has lines that do not stop in all stations and do not go to the same destination (tourists maybe don't read the line name written on the train indicators). Also some subway networks have multiple branches for a line like Frankfurt, Berlin, Paris, Shanghai, Beijing (the Airport line)... So for a tourist that maybe knows zero about Barcelona (the business ones usually) and is worried about being in the wrong branch train this is a good idea.

The only thing that I would change is removing the "Next station/Propera aturada/Próxima estación". By doing something simple like Tokyo subway (just repeating twice the next station name and then adding later all the stuff for tourists in english only and only if the next station is for the airport or something).
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The announcement: "this train is stopping at all stations" is not needed because ALL trains stop at all stations!!

Please, make a complaint here:
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Who are these subway passengers listening to announcements? They pretty much all have headphones.
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The information of the direction of the train will be necessary in the short term, though, when L10 sud opens and the trains from both lines start sharing tracks between Can Tries Gornal and Collblanc station. But currently there's no need for it.
Ok, but what about L9 and L10 in the north? They also share tracks between La Sagrera and Bon Pastor without that annoying announcements after every stop. The information about the direction of the train is given when the train arrives at the station and I think, this is enough information. When I'm on the train, I should know where it's going...



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Well, the FGC subway network has lines that do not stop in all stations and do not go to the same destination (tourists maybe don't read the line name written on the train indicators). Also some subway networks have multiple branches for a line like Frankfurt, Berlin, Paris, Shanghai, Beijing (the Airport line)... So for a tourist that maybe knows zero about Barcelona (the business ones usually) and is worried about being in the wrong branch train this is a good idea.
Well, isn't it better to have only an announcements if the train does not stop at every station? In the case of L9 Sud, I will think that there are different train services like local and express. I'm a fan of reading signs and listening to announcements, but no one benefits from information that is not needed. When you are talking about tourists, how can they orientate on the other metro lines in the city?

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