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I have not seen many people using wheel chairs on Indian footpath. Most of handicapped ones use crutches. Ideally we should have footpaths suitable for wheel chairs also. but under current conditions if footpaths becomes safer for people who can walk we should be more than happy. Handicapped ones using crutches will also be happy if footpath is safe for walking. And baby trolleys can easily pass through barricades of pillars which does not permit two wheelers.
The main problem for wheel chairs is frequent ramps from road to garages in hilly terrain like Mangaluru. Otherwise also builders build ground floor below road level and construct ramps from edge of the road itself using entire width of footpath for ramp. We do not know why there is no policy to have footpath without sideway gradients. If a pedestrian slips he will fall on road may be under a vehicle. And there are also buildings having such steep gradient ramps from basement to road that the vehicles are forced to move with high speed terrifying everyone on footpath. Such buildings should not get license. In Mangaluru there is one road called Balmatta Road. To get into footpath you have to climb two steps. So, none of the vehicles can climb the footpath. But, climbing up and down in too many places is a problem if you want to walk a long distance. We have another road called Old Kent Road were footpath is almost at the right hieght but, vehicles still climb the footpath for parking. We have other examples were continuous ramps are constructed to footpath from road for parking vehicles by building owners. The authorities have constructed footpath with enough width in a few small stretches of roads like Bavutagudde and M G Road but these are often used more for parking vehicles than for walking. When vehicles are parked on footpath and you are walking on side of road behind parked vehicle you will not know when the vehicle will start and move backward. I have faced this problem many times. Even many vehicles attack pedestrians by harsh horning while approaching for parking. The vehicle owners have an attitude that they have the first right on both road and footpath. If you take the western countries say London there are lot of traffic rule violations but nobody run or park his vehicle on footpath. Also at gates or zebracrossings they halt and wait for pedestrians to cross. We don't know when Indian vehicle owners become civilized like west. Akash what is your plan on Anna's Jan Lokpal like movement for pedestrians' rights which you had suggested earlier? Anna is now talking about many issues like environment, labour, judicial, electoral, educational, agricultural reforms. But, we do not know whether he is interested pedestrian issues. |
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Centre picks up Surat for study on effects of climate change
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Chandigarh: City out of room for more parking lots Pune: JNNURM money can be used for metro India's urban change to get expert help |
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India may have world’s 3 mega-cities by 2031
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In few cases it has yielded results,especially near bus stand area.I requested in my letter for the need to remove unauthorized shops and move street vendors out of the busy stretch,citing pedestrian movement hindrance as the prime reason. The authorities acted on it, but they were not fully successful in completely rehabilitating the vendors elsewhere.It resulted in street vendors/mostly fruits-vegetables starting to encroach the road itself. Read : GOI picks up Surat to evolve a national policy on Street vendors Coming back to other methods,You are aware of Dr M C Sindhur,who got a road in vidyanagar,Hubli-Dharwad insured with public participation which also made an entry into Limca books of records(the first road to be insured).This method will probably work on footpaths too.Click here In my experience I have noticed that shop keepers generally don't allow vehicles to park close to their shops i.e. on the footpath area,probably because it might hurt their business prospects due to hindrance in pedestrian movement.Get these guys on board here in insuring the footpath s.This might not owrk out in pure residential areas,but for sure it would be a success in Chaotic CBD areas.Shop keepers will be more than willing to pay the premium.
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Krishnamoorthy,If you have been following H-D thread you would have noticed that buildings who have violated basement rules are being served notices, they have also attacked the civil engineers/architects of such buildings which have failed to create basement parking.Such a kind of movement must happen all over the country.Need someone to start it,probably the concerned citizen groups in respective cities must take up this movement. Having traveled around many Tier two cities in India,I am happy that Mysore is a pretty pedestrian friendly city.It has succeeded in ensuring adequate footpath space along major avenues.Ofcourse nothing can be done in Gallies and bazaar markets- where normally vehicular movement is less.
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No drainage facilities for new housing projects in Bangalore
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Good move,I think Surat has implemented this,When I stayed in a housing complex in Magadalla in Surat, I saw these huge housing complexes had their own STP
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Vertical expansion in realty: The way to go
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You build a 70 storey building in old congested areas,then probably the sewage system/water supply system may not take up the load,ensure that sewage/water systems i.e. pipes will be able carry the load.
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I do not know which type of projects are accepted for JNNURM funding but, I feel JNNURM should have these compulsory components
Further, JNNURM should not fund any other type of project unless these basic neccessities are met in every city of India. For example, parking complex, instead of government funding such projects it should force building owners to come up with adequate parking area, even old building owners should be forced to construct parking complexes nearby in shared mode. |
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I don't know how many cities actually saw improvement in urban governance?How many cities went for property mapping using GIS/satellite? All what we saw was buying of buses to bail out few bus companies in the name of urban transport.Indian urban planners in ULBs are creating infrastructure for moving vehicles but not people.The link is missing here.Pedestrian infrastructure is sad in India. Look at Pune they(corporation) is looking at JNNURM for Metro funding and center also seems to be ok with it. JNNU "Renewal Mission" Planners have forgotten that this is a renewal mission Quote:
Nobody has understood what JNNURM actually meant.They conveniently forgot that it is a renewal mission with great emphasis on rehabilitating urban poor. Now Urban ministry is planning to extend the mission for another year,and the reason cited-to keep the quality intact.
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I really admire DevRaj Urs road in Mysore,which hosts a lot of branded shops on its 1 km stretch and has neatly laid footpaths with absolutely no encroachments of any sorts.It is a delight to walk and shop on this street. ![]() Copyright PBKDNAP
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The basic purpose of JNNURM was to reform the municipalities, here is the progress list on page 2. Here is the project list, you can see that so many projects which are for sewage treatment or water supply.
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, idiots have dug up whole of mysore city in the name of 24*7 water supply,water sewage lines etc.There is no coordination and rehab package to patch up the roads and footpaths.Mysore has degraded further in the name of JNNURM,I hope the story is good in other cities implementing JNNURM programs.And Bangalore don't ask....
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Thanks for the links. I will go through them.
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Experts bat for environment friendly transport in India
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I searched in internet for a copy of "IRC:103-1988 Guidelines for Pedestrian Facilities". But, could not find one. I think we should have a better policy on footpath, busstops, autobays, etc. In Mangaluru since last few months there is some improvement in bus shelter designs. They are allowing for smooth movement of pedestrians by cutting down the width of advertisement boards on sides of busshelter, also now they are ensuring that floor height of bus shelter is same as the rest of footpath. Earlier floor height used to be so high that old people used to find it difficult to get down to climb the buses which generally can not stop exactly touching the busstop floor. Anyway in future low floor buses will have floor level almost at footpath level only hopefully. |
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