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Old October 25th, 2013, 03:35 PM   #541
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200 metre club (City - Number of Buildings over 200m - Tallest Roof Height)
08. Tokyo (21)
Tokyo has 23 buildings over 200 m.
The latest two additions are:
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Old October 25th, 2013, 03:52 PM   #542
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The only surprise to me was Tokyo. I didn't think it had that many buildings over 200m.
Tokyo is one of the first cities in the world to build over 200 meters. That started in the early 70's. Except the US, I think it was the first city in the world to build skysrapers over 200 m during that time. So, it's not a surprise to see that big number of skyscrapers nowadays. Tokyo boasts 23 buildings that reach the height of 200 meters or above, 9 of them were actually built between 1974 and 1996.
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Tokyo is one of the first cities in the world to build over 200 meters. That started in the early 70's. Except the US, I think it was the first city in the world to build skysrapers over 200 m during that time.
I think you meant, one of the first cities outside the New World. Toronto alone built quite a few 200m+ buildings in the 1970s. FCP, which went up in 1975, was 298m. TD Centre went up in the 1960s, while the city almost got a 200m+ building all the way back in 1929. The stock market crash halted construction after only 7 floors were built.

Not 200m+, but Montreal built 2 buildings that almost breached that height in the early 60s. Tour de la Bourse is 190m (1964), Place Ville-Marie is 188m (1962) and Tour CIBC is 184m (1964). It's 226m to the tip, but that's cheating a little bit. In 1964, Montreal actually had taller buildings than Chicago. In 1964, Chicago's tallest was 184m.

What's more accurate is that from the 1880s onward, skyscrapers were a phenomenon in every large wealthy city outside of Europe: Canada, the US, Australia, etc. Japan was one of the first countries outside the New World to start building tall.
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Tokyo is one of the first cities in the world to build over 200 meters. That started in the early 70's. Except the US, I think it was the first city in the world to build skysrapers over 200 m during that time. So, it's not a surprise to see that big number of skyscrapers nowadays. Tokyo boasts 23 buildings that reach the height of 200 meters or above, 9 of them were actually built between 1974 and 1996.
Except the US, Moscow State University is the first 200m+, but his roof height is under 200m.

I find in SSP TD Center(Toronto) completed in 1967. And the first outside North America is Carlton Center(Johannesburg) and Tour Montparnasse in Paris(Completed in 1973)
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I think you meant, one of the first cities outside the New World. Toronto alone built quite a few 200m+ buildings in the 1970s. FCP, which went up in 1975, was 298m. TD Centre went up in the 1960s, while the city almost got a 200m+ building all the way back in 1929. The stock market crash halted construction after only 7 floors were built.

Not 200m+, but Montreal built 2 buildings that almost breached that height in the early 60s. Tour de la Bourse is 190m (1964), Place Ville-Marie is 188m (1962) and Tour CIBC is 184m (1964). It's 226m to the tip, but that's cheating a little bit. In 1964, Montreal actually had taller buildings than Chicago. In 1964, Chicago's tallest was 184m.

What's more accurate is that from the 1880s onward, skyscrapers were a phenomenon in every large wealthy city outside of Europe: Canada, the US, Australia, etc. Japan was one of the first countries outside the New World to start building tall.
You want to say outside of the western world. Well I'd better use outside of North-America, in this case. Anyways, Japan was indeed one of the first countries to build over 200 meters and the first Asian country to break the 200 meters bar in building skyscrapers.
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how did metro manila have 14 buildings with 200m+ roof height?

so far, these are the ones i can account for with roof heights exceeding 200m or so without any architectural spires/crowns included..just correct me if i'm wrong..:

completed or t/o
1. Gramercy Residences - 250m
2. PBCOM Tower - 241m
3. Discovery Primea - 239m
4. Knightsbridge Residences - 220m
5. One Rockwell West Tower - 210m
6. UnionBank Plaza - 206m
7. St. Francis Shangri-la Place 1 - 200m+
8. St. Francis Shangri-la Place 2 - 200m+
9. Petron Megaplaza - 200m+
10. Philamlife Tower - 200m

u/c
11. Stratford Residences - 250m+
12. Grand Hyatt - 250m+
13. Shangri-la at The Fort - 250m
14. Trump Tower - 240m+
15. One Shangri-la Place 1 - 220m+
16. One Shangri-la Place 2 - 220m+
17. The Royalton - 220m+
18. The Suites - 220m
19. BDO Tower - 210m
20. St. Regis Residences 1 - 210m
21. Edades Tower - 205m
22. Grand Riviera Suites - 200m+
23. Shang Salcedo Place - 200m+
24. GA Sky Suites - 200m+
25. Hyundai HQ - 200m+
26. St. Regis Residences 2 - 200m
27. Burgundy Empire Tower - 200m
28. The Viridian - 200m
29. Milano Residences - 200m
30. Wil Tower Mall 1 - 200m
31. Wil Tower Mall 2 - 200m


on hold/approved/prepped
32. Skycity - 300m+
33. Movenpick Hotel - 250m+
34. Kirov Tower - 200m+
35. Garden Towers - 200m+

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Greenbelt Lorenzo Tower(205m), Golden Empire Tower(203m) and One Corporate Centre(202m) has a spire
BSA Twin Towers has a roof height of 196m (spire: 215m)
GT International Tower has a roof height of 181m (fin: 217m)
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how are you getting 21 for tianjin?
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I'll check with 'univer' regarding Tianjin and Manila.
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how are you getting 21 for tianjin?
I use Skyscraperpage source,I think most of buildings finished in 2014 are already T/O now.

1.Tianjin World Financial Center 337m
Bohai Bank Tower 240m T/O
Hutchison Whampoa Metro Plaza Main Tower 258m
5 Taian Dao 251m(unknown Roof Height) T/O
Tianjin International Trade Tower 250m T/O
Shangbang Leasing Tower 247m T/O
Tianjin Xinda Plaza 230m(238)
Tianjin Junlin Tianxia Building 230m
Shenglong International Finance Center 225m T/O
Arcadia Court R1 215m T/O

11.Arcadia Court R2 215m T/O
Arcadia Court R3 215m T/O
Tianjin Maoye Building 205m T/O
Golden Mansion Center 203m
Renaissance Hotel Tianjin 203m
Guangyao Dongfang Plaza Tower [1] 201m T/O
Guangyao Dongfang Plaza Tower [2] 201m T/O
Binhai Cathay Tower 200m T/O
R&F Center Tower 1 200m T/O
20.R&F Center Tower 2 200m T/O
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i try to confirm which buildings are not topped out, if any. btw i just updated the U/C buildings over 200m for tianjin in SSP. added 4 new ones which are currently piling and changed a bit of building data around, not sure if anything major happened for the topped out buildings though.

bohai bank actually seems to be 270m actually, but topped out as you said.
zovie plaza is definitely not topped out. maybe it is even on hold currently, very slow progress, won't finish till 2014, i should remove the completion date for that one.
liqin hotel is just a few floors above ground currently

the other buildings buildings are either topped out or the last update was a few months ago when they were nearly topped out, so that they are very very likely to be topped out.

so two buildings are ruled out and we stay with 19. more than i thought.
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how did metro manila have 14 buildings with 200m+ roof height?

completed or t/o
1. Gramercy Residences - 250m
2. PBCOM Tower - 241m
3. Discovery Primea - 239m
4. Knightsbridge Residences - 220m
5. One Rockwell West Tower - 210m
6. UnionBank Plaza - 206m
7. St. Franacis Shangri-la Place 1 - 200m+
8. St. Franacis Shangri-la Place 2 - 200m+
9. Petron Megaplaza - 200m+
10. Philamlife Tower - 200m

u/c

15. One Shangri-la Place 1 - 220m+
16. One Shangri-la Place 2 - 220m+

17. The Royalton - 220m+
18. The Suites - 220m
Thank for your update, I have include One Shangri-la Place 1;2 and Grand Riviera Suites because I think these buildings are T/O. So is still u/c.
And I'm not sure if Summit One roof height is 200m ?

But,the tallest building in Manila is Discovery Primea 260m
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1145533&page=9
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it is rather depressing how difficult it is to compile lists like this. no database is really complete and information on SSC and CTBUH often differs and emporis data seems to be very incomplete. i realize that everytime i try to update the SSP database and even if a building is under construction it stays a mystery if the building is actually topped out by one point because we do not have construction pictures that were shot in the last few months. if only skyscraper development was as popular as soccer and the whole world would join making photos and trying to keep every information as accurate as possible
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So I should change Tianjin to 19? And Manila should be 13: the 10 in ' alheaine's table + One Shangri-la Place 1, One Shangri-la Place 2, and Grand Riviera Suites?
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Yes, a lot of us felt pretty weird talking about this until we discovered there were websites like this.
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Thank for your update, I have include One Shangri-la Place 1;2 and Grand Riviera Suites because I think these buildings are T/O. So is still u/c.
And I'm not sure if Summit One roof height is 200m ?

But,the tallest building in Manila is Discovery Primea 260m
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1145533&page=9

thanks.. i bet OMP1&2 as well as GRS are already t/o by this time.. Summit One as i have read is around 180m or so in roof height..so this brings Manila's into 13 @ isaidso?

1. Discovery Primea - 260m
2. Gramercy Residences - 250m
3. PBCOM Tower - 241m
4. Knightsbridge Residences - 220m
5. One Shangri-la Place 1 - 220m+
6. One Shangri-la Place 2 - 220m+
7. One Rockwell West Tower - 210m
8. UnionBank Plaza - 206m
9. St. Francis Shangri-la Place 1 - 200m+
10. St. Francis Shangri-la Place 2 - 200m+
11. Petron Megaplaza - 200m+
22. Grand Riviera Suites - 200m+
13. Philamlife Tower - 200m


Is DP's final height really 260m @univer?'coz in most of the pitures of Makati CBD, it really looks taller than PBCOM's spire(259m), which is 9m taller than Gram's 250m stature..

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Corrections:
Tianjin has 20 buildings
Manila has 13 buildings


200 metre club (City - Number of Buildings over 200m - Tallest Roof Height)

01. Hong Kong (74) - 484 m
02. Dubai (63) - 636 m
03. New York (58) - 417 m
04. Shanghai (46) - 487 m
05. Shenzhen (28) - 442 m

06. Guangzhou (27) - 438 m
07. Chicago (26) - 442 m
08. Singapore (25) - 280 m
09. Tokyo (23) - 255 m
10. Panama City (21) - 284 m

11. Chongqing (20) - 339 m
12. Tianjin (20) - 337 m
13. Jakarta (18) - 254 m
14. Abu Dhabi (17) - 381 m
15. Kuala Lumpur (16) - 411 m

16. Dalian (16) - 383 m
17. Doha (16) - 300 m
18. Shenyang (14) - 311 m
19. Houston (14) - 305 m
20. Busan (13) - 301 m

21. Toronto (13) - 298 m
22. Wuhan (13) - 290 m
23. Seoul (13) - 279 m
24. Manila (13) - 250 m
25. Bangkok (12) - 304 m

26. Los Angeles (11) - 310 m
27. Nanjing (10) - 381 m

On the Bubble

28. Moscow (9) - 339 m
29. Atlanta (9) - 285 m
30. Wuxi (8) - 358 m
31. Suzhou (8) - 302 m
32. Goyang (8) - 230 m
33. Mumbai (8) - 222 m
34. Mecca (7) - 558 m
35. Qingdao (7) - 335 m
36. Dallas (7) - 281 m
37. Hangzhou (7) - 258 m
38. Nanchang (7) - 239 m
39. Beijing (6) - 330 m
40. London (6) - 304 m
41. Melbourne (6) - 297 m
42. Manama (6) - 240 m
43. Hefei (6) - 227 m
44. Osaka (5) - 300 m
45. Incheon (5) - 305 m
46. Philadelphia (5) - 297 m
47. Frankfurt (5) - 259 m
48. Nanning (5) - 250 m
49. Sydney (5) - 230 m
50. Xiamen (5) - 218 m

The Rest

4 Buildings: Hanoi-336m, Seattle-285m, Charlotte-265m, Madrid-250m, Hwaseong-249m, Brisbane-249m, Miami-244m, Minneapolis-241m

3 Buildings: Riyadh-311m, Guiyang-290m, Gold Coast-275m, Fuzhou-273m, Cleveland-271m, Macao-261m, Kunming-260m, San Francisco-260m, Nagoya-247m, Calgary-236m, Pattaya-234m, Perth-226m, Mexico City-225m, Sharjah-222m, Denver-218m, Chengdu-206m

2 Buildings: Taipei-448m, Kuwait City-413m, Kaohsiung-348m, Wenzhou-309m, Liuzhou-303m, Dongguan-289m, Changzhou-284m, Zhengzhou-279m, Pittsburgh-256m, Boston- 241m, Bucheon- 238m, Jeddah- 235m, Caracas- 225m, Daegu-225m, Paris-225m, Shijiazhuang-219m, Ulsan-202m, Changsha

1 Building: Pyongyang-330m, Yokohama-297m, Santiago-272m, Saigon-263m, Oklahoma City-259m, Shaoxing-258m, Ningbo-257m, Izumiasano-256m, Indianapolis-253m, Cheonan-250m, Tel Aviv-244m, Jersey City-238m, Istanbul-235m, Penang-232m, Urumqi-230m, Xi'an-228m, Mobile-227m, Las Vegas-224m, Johannesburg-223m, Detroit-222m, Hanamatsu-213m, New Orleans-212m, Nantong-210m, Guadalajara-209m, Austin-208m, Montréal-205m, Tulsa-203m, Cincinnati-201m, Harbin-200m, Kish-200m
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I told you earlier to correct the number of skyscrapers in Tokyo. But for vague reasons, you keep ignoring my post. What is exactly the point of your thread? To put your false outdated infos or to put merely the data that you like or what exactly?

This doesn't look very professionnal at all.

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For Tianjin one building has been missed
Shenglong International Finance Center 225.57m 738ft 52floor T/O
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01. Hong Kong (74) - 484 m
02. Dubai (63) - 636 m


3 Buildings: Riyadh-311m, Guiyang-290m, Gold Coast-275m, Fuzhou-273m, Cleveland-271m, Macao-261m, Kunming-260m, San Francisco-260m, Nagoya-247m, Calgary-236m, Pattaya-234m, Perth-226m, Mexico City-225m, Sharjah-222m, Denver-218m, Chengdu-206m

2 Buildings: Taipei-448m, Kuwait City-413m, Kaohsiung-348m, Wenzhou-309m, Liuzhou-303m, Dongguan-289m, Changzhou-284m, Zhengzhou-279m, Pittsburgh-256m, Boston- 241m, Bucheon- 238m, Jeddah- 235m, Caracas- 225m, Daegu-225m, Paris-225m, Shijiazhuang-219m, Ulsan-202m, Changsha

1 Building: Pyongyang-330m, Wenzhou-300m, Yokohama-297m, Santiago-272m, Saigon-263m, Chengdu- 260m, Oklahoma City-259m, Shaoxing-258m, Ningbo-257m, Izumiasano-256m, Indianapolis-253m, Cheonan-250m, Tel Aviv-244m, Changsa-240m, Jersey City-238m, Istanbul-235m, Penang-232m, Urumqi-230m, Xi'an-228m, Mobile-227m, Las Vegas-224m, Johannesburg-223m, Detroit-222m, Hanamatsu-213m, New Orleans-212m, Nantong-210m, Guadalajara-209m, Austin-208m, Montréal-205m, Tulsa-203m, Cincinnati-201m, Harbin-200m, Kish-200m
you mentioned two time these cities
And according to SSP, Dubai has 70 buildings if we consider all buildings completed in 2014 are T/O at the moment(not sure)
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Thanks. For those Dubai buildings scheduled for completion in 2014, I'll wait for confirmation or update it in January 2014.
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