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Old April 26th, 2010, 04:34 PM   #61
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One more thing,
South Korea's tallest is the 305m NEAT tower at the moment.
It's already topped out.The exterior construction of this tower is finished.






Also, Busan's 300m tower is rising fast.
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Old April 26th, 2010, 04:37 PM   #62
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There's so much going on in South Korea right now. I'm going to need your input to make sure the South Korean data is, and remains accurate. Is that 305 m roof height, or antennae/spire?

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I admire your passonate work very much.

Dongtan is the south korean city, a part of Hwasung.
There is not many photos of Dongtan right now.
Thank you very much. Those are wonderful photos. I read that there is a Seoul subway station in Hwaseong. Is this whole area really part of metropolitan Seoul or should I keep Hwaseong as a separate city in my lists much like I've done with Incheon?

Do you know the roof heights for these new Dongtan towers? Are they topped out?
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Old April 26th, 2010, 07:43 PM   #63
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Ok! Answer by korea2002

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There's so much going on in South Korea right now. I'm going to need your input to make sure the South Korean data is, and remains accurate. Is that 305 m roof height, or antennae/spire?



Thank you very much. Those are wonderful photos. I read that there is a Seoul subway station in Hwaseong. Is this whole area really part of metropolitan Seoul or should I keep Hwaseong as a separate city in my lists much like I've done with Incheon?

Do you know the roof heights for these new Dongtan towers? Are they topped out?
OK.Your Passionate work about Korean Residential Part is terrific! Calm Down,please! this can't do thing if you get angry or exicited.

on the basis of Skyscrapercity's Remark,Dongtan is New city by the South korean Government Policy and a part of the Hwaseong City.(Korea)

Project's Name is Metapolis-This is Complex(Office,Retail,Residential,Department store Development),this 4 tower is 1 stage of this project. 55~66 floors-234~256.5m.... ok?

In addition,Dongtan have a Name in South korea and China,I heard that..
Shanghai's Dongtan is Chinese(東坦-right?),and Hwaseong(華城-korean city Name) Dongtan is korean and Chinese.. ok?
So,Shanghai and South korean may be influence on Eastern Asian Culture by Chinese(漢文)..So,Same name of the Region can exist in Two Countries.
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I see. Thanks for the information. I shall make a new heading for Hwaseong, add the towers, and update the South Korea numbers in the list as well.
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200 metre club (City - Number of Buildings Over 200 m - Tallest Building)

01. Hong Kong (54) - 484 m
02. New York (53) -381 m
03. Dubai (42) - 636 m
04. Shanghai (38) - 487 m
05. Chicago (27) - 442 m

06. Shenzhen (24) - 384 m
07. Tokyo (20) - 296 m
08. Houston (14) - 305 m
09. Guangzhou (13) - 441 m
10. Bangkok (12) - 304 m

11. Chongqing (12) - 283 m
12. Seoul (12) - 265 m
13. Singapore (11) - 280 m
14. Jakarta (11) - 262 m
15. Kuala Lumpur (10) - 379 m

16. Atlanta (10) - 312 m
17. Los Angeles (10) - 310 m

On the Bubble

18. Wuhan (8) - 331 m
19. Toronto (8) - 298 m
20. Moscow (7) - 302 m

21. Dallas (7) - 281 m
22. Nanjing (6) - 310 m
23. Melbourne (6) - 297 m
24. Incheon (5) - 305 m
25. Philadelphia (5) - 297 m

26. Dalian (5) - 243 m
27. Osaka (5) - 256 m
28. Doha (5) - 254 m
29. Tianjin (5) - 238 m
30. Sydney (5) - 230 m

The Rest

Shenyang (4) - 305 m
Seattle (4) - 285 m
Frankfurt (4) - 259 m
Madrid (4) - 250 m
Hwaseong (4) - 249 m
Minneapolis (4) - 241 m
London (4) - 235 m

Riyadh (3) - 311 m
Cleveland (3) - 289 m
Gold Coast (3) - 275 m
Charlotte (3) - 265 m
San Francisco (3) - 260 m
Manama (3) - 260 m
Jeddah (3) - 250 m
Nagoya (3) - 247 m
Miami (3) - 242 m
Mexico City (3) - 225 m
Denver (3) - 218 m

Taipei (2) - 508 m
Kaohsiung (2) - 348 m
Pittsburgh (2) - 256 m
Qingdao (2) - 249 m
Mumbai (2) - 249 m
Boston (2) - 241 m
Paris (2) - 240 m
Warsaw (2) - 231 m
Perth (2) - 226 m
Caracas (2) - 225 m
Daegu (2) - 225 m
Panama City (2) - 210 m
Busan (2) - 210 m
Brisbane (2) - 207 m
Ulsan (2) awaiting data

Abu Dhabi (1) - 310 m
Kuwait City (1) - 300 m
Istanbul (1) - 261 m
Chengdu (1) - 260 m
Indianapolis (1) - 253 m
Tel Aviv (1) - 244 m
Jersey City (1) - 238 m
Fukuoka (1) - 234 m
Penang (1) - 232 m
Urumqi (1) - 230 m
Xi'an (1) - 228 m
Mobile (1) - 227 m
Pattaya (1) - 226 m
Las Vegas (1) - 224 m
Johannesburg (1) - 223 m
Detroit (1) - 222 m
Calgary (1) - 215 m
Hanamatsu (1) - 213 m
New Orleans (1) - 212 m
Casablanca (1) - 210 m
Austin (1) - 208 m
Montréal (1) - 205 m
Vienna (1) - 202 m
Vancouver (1) - 201 m
Kish (1) - 200 m
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Countries with more than 1 city with 200 metre buildings
(Country - Number of cities with a 200 metre building - Tie broken by number of towers)

01. United States (23)
02. China (15)
03. South Korea (6)
04. Japan (5)
05. Australia (5)

06. Canada (4)
07. United Arab Emirates (2)
08. Thailand (2)
09. Malaysia (2)
10. Saudi Arabia (2)

11. Taiwan (2)
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Countries with the most 200 metre buildings (Tallest building in brackets)

01. China - 176 buildings (487 m)
02. United States - 160 buildings (442 m)
03. United Arab Emirates - 43 buildings (636 m)
04. Japan - 30 buildings (296 m)
05. South Korea - 27 buildings (265 m)

06. Australia - 18 buildings (297 m)
07. Thailand - 13 buildings (304 m)
08. Malaysia - 11 buildings (379 m)
09. Canada - 11 buildings (298 m)
10. Singapore - 11 buildings (280 m)

11. Indonesia - 11 buildings (262 m)
12. Russia - 7 buildings (302 m)
13. Saudi Arabia - 6 buildings (311 m)
14. Qatar - 5 buildings (254 m)
15. Taiwan - 4 buildings (508 m)

16. Germany - 4 buildings (259 m)
17. Spain - 4 buildings (250 m)
18. United Kingdom - 4 buildings (235 m)
19. Bahrain - 3 buildings (260 m)
20. Mexico - 3 buildings (225 m)

21. France - 2 buildings (240 m)
22. Poland - 2 buildings (231 m)
23. Venezuela - 2 buildings (225 m)
24. Kuwait - 1 building (300 m)
25. Turkey - 1 building (261 m)

26. Israel - 1 building (244 m)
27. South Africa - 1 building (223 m)
28. Morocco - 1 building (210 m)
29. Austria - 1 building (202 m)
30. Iran - 1 building (200 m)
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Hey- General Information about Dongtan in South korea.

Dongtan Development is under way in South korea,Dongtan Metapolis

Related Thread in SSC-http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=549960

Metapolis Complex Homepage-http://www.e-metapolis.co.kr/
Hwaseong New City Homepage-http://www.hscity.net/
Dongtan New City 1 Homepage(korean)-http://dongtan.lh.or.kr/main/index.asp
Contractor-Posco E&C(renowned for Songdo International City Main-Contractor with Gale International)-http://www.poscoenc.com/english/
Developer-LH(Korea Land and Housing Corporation-한국토지주택공사)-http://world.lh.or.kr/englh_main.asp
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My 3 year prediction:

- A log jam for 3rd most 200 m+ towers between the United Arab Emirates, Japan, and South Korea.

- Another log jam for 6th most 200 m+ towers between Australia, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, and Canada.
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Let me rephrase that to make more sense.*

I don't know what the construction boom is like in Thailand, Indonesia or Malaysia but they all do still have a long way to go to so much as compete for #6 position. Even if Australia built nothing in 3 years, would they catch up? Canada and Malaysia especially.

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Let me rephrase that to make more sense.*

I don't know what the construction boom is like in Thailand, Indonesia or Malaysia but they all do still have a long way to go to so much as compete for #6 position.
I did some preliminary digging. If they don't catch up to Australia's 18, they'll come very close to doing so. I'll come back with some data though.
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I'm bumping Indonesia's total down from 13 to 11 for the following reasons:

- The Peak (218 m) was listed as 2 towers when it's 1 tower with 2 peaks.
- Icon aka St. Regis Hotel (200 m) was listed as a 200 m building, but it wasn't even finished. Digging has revealed that construction has halted.

I should have double checked those when they were submitted. Sorry folks. If you spot any more errors, please let me know. I will look into it. Regarding submissions: I won't add them unless I see confirmation regarding roof height and that it is topped out.

Indonesia's total will be adjusted to 11 from 13. Once the St. Regis tops out and the height to roof can be confirmed, then I'll add it.
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Even if Australia built nothing in 3 years, would they catch up? Canada and Malaysia especially.
I did some digging and here's what I found:

Malaysia is at 11 buildings over 200 m. They have 4 under construction: The Troika, KLCC Lot C, Menara Felda, and Le Nouvel. The last 2 have unconfirmed heights. So Malaysia, looks set to go to 13, or as high as 15 based on what's under construction.

Indonesia got bumped down from 13 to 11 towers over 200 m due to problems with some of the data. I couldn't find any information regarding new 200 m+ towers under construction so they look set to stay at 11.

Thailand is at 13 buildings over 200 m. They have a 265 m tower under construction called 'The River'. 6 other towers: Ocean One, MahaNahkhon, Capella Hotel Bangkok, Reflection 1, White Sand Beach 1, and Terminal 21 were reportedly under construction, but I couldn't find any more information at this point. Thailand looks set to go to 14, or as high as 20 towers.

Canada is at 11 buildings over 200 m. There are currently 8 towers under construction that will be over 200 m, and 1 more that seems imminent. I'm counting this as 9 new towers in total. In Toronto: Trump, Four Seasons, Shangri-La, AURA, ICE, One Bloor (very soon), and L Tower. In Calgary: The Bow, and Eighth Avenue Place. Canada looks set to go to 20 towers.

Australia is at 18 buildings over 200 m. Soleil (Brisbane), Infinity (Brisbane), BHP Billiton (Perth), and Soul (Gold Coast) are all under construction. Australia looks set to go to 22 towers.

Projection:

Australia: 22
Canada: 20
Thailand: 20*
Malaysia: 15*
Indonesia: 11

Looks like I was half right and half wrong. Based on what's under construction now, there will be a log jam for 6th. It won't be a 5 horse race though.

* I couldn't confirm some of it.
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Do you think you could make a separate list which includes spire height (not antennae), seeing as that is how most countries rank their tallest buildings?
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List of Moscow 200+


01 City of Capitals Moscow Tower 302 m
02 Naberezhnaya Tower C 268 m
03 Triumph-Palace 264 m
04 City of Capitals St. Petersburg Tower 255 m
05 Federation Tower West Tower 242 m
06 Moscow State University 240 m
07 Imperia Tower 239m
08 MosFilm Tower 213m
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Do you think you could make a separate list which includes spire height (not antennae), seeing as that is how most countries rank their tallest buildings?
Actually, most of the big skyscraper countries seem to measure by roof. It also has the benefit of keeping heights 'honest'. There are a number of buildings that are really 160 m tall with a 50 m pole stuck on top of it. Roof height eliminates these wide swings and give one a more accurate summary of how tall buildings around the world really are.

This one thread is taking up about 5-6 hours/week. I couldn't possibly devote another 5-6 hours/week to a thread that's going to simply bump the number of towers for each city up by about 10% and result in only a slightly different list/ranking.

You're asking me to go and research 400 buildings individually. Feel free to start a new thread, but I honestly don't have the time or see enough value in pursuing that.
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I do beg to differ that "most of the big skyscraper countries seem to measure by roof". To be quite honest it seems to me you've gone by roof height because Canada doesn't have many/any buildings with spires; but that's just my outlook (and other people who I've spoke to as well).

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Do you think you could make a separate list which includes spire height (not antennae), seeing as that is how most countries rank their tallest buildings?
Hmm, here's a list isaidso had put together which included spires, prior to the changing of the rules.

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200 metre club (City - Number of Buildings Over 200 m - Tallest Building)

01. Hong Kong (54) - 415 m
02. New York (53) -381 m
03. Dubai (42) - 828 m
04. Shanghai (36) - 492 m
05. Chicago (27) - 442 m

06. Shenzhen (18) - 384 m
07. Tokyo (18) - 248 m
08. Houston (14) - 305 m
09. Bangkok (12) - 304 m
10. Chongqing (12) - 283 m

11. Seoul (12) - 265 m
12. Jakarta (12) - 262 m
13. Singapore (11) - 280 m
14. Kuala Lumpur (10) - 452 m
15. Atlanta (10) - 312 m

16. Los Angeles (10) - 310 m

On the Bubble

17. Melbourne (8) - 297 m
18. Sydney (8) - 244 m
19. Guangzhou (7) - 391 m
20. Moscow (7) - 302 m

21. Toronto (7) - 298 m
22. Dallas (7) - 281 m
23. Wuhan (6) - 331 m
24. Nanjing (6) - 310 m
25. Incheon (5) - 305 m

26. Philadelphia (5) - 297 m
27. Dalian (5) - 243 m
28. Osaka (5) - 256 m
29. Doha (5) - 254 m

The Rest

Seattle (4) - 285 m
Frankfurt (4) - 259 m
Madrid (4) - 250 m
Minneapolis (4) - 241 m
Dongtan (4) awaiting data

Gold Coast (3) - 323 m
Riyadh (3) - 311 m
Cleveland (3) - 289 m
Charlotte (3) - 265 m
San Francisco (3) - 260 m
Manama (3) - 260 m
Jeddah (3) - 250 m
Nagoya (3) - 247 m
Miami (3) - 242 m
Tianjin (3) - 238 m
London (3) - 235 m
Mexico City (3) - 225 m
Denver (3) - 218 m

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Countries with more than 1 city with 200 metre buildings
(Country - Number of cities with a 200 metre building - Number of 200 metre buildings in the country)

01. United States (23) - 160 buildings
02. China (14) - 154 buildings
03. United Arab Emirates (2) - 43 buildings
04. Japan (7) - 30 buildings
05. South Korea (6) - 26 buildings

06. Australia (5) - 23 buildings
07. Canada (4) - 11 buildings
08. Thailand (2) - 13 buildings
09. Malaysia (2) - 11 buildings
10. Saudi Arabia (2) - 6 buildings

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Countries with the most 200 metre buildings (Tallest building in brackets)

01. United States - 160 buildings (442 m)
02. China - 154 buildings (492 m)
03. United Arab Emirates - 43 buildings (828 m)
04. Japan - 30 buildings (248 m)
05. South Korea - 26 buildings (265 m)

06. Australia - 23 buildings (323 m)
07. Thailand - 13 buildings (304 m)
08. Indonesia - 12 buildings (262 m)
09. Malaysia - 11 buildings (452 m)
10. Canada - 11 buildings (298 m)

11. Singapore - 11 buildings (280 m)
12. Russia - 7 buildings (302 m)
13. Saudi Arabia - 6 buildings (311 m)
14. Qatar - 5 buildings (254 m)
15. Taiwan - 4 buildings (508 m)

16. Germany - 4 buildings (259 m)
17. Spain - 4 buildings (250 m)
18. Bahrain - 3 buildings (260 m)
19. United Kingdom - 3 buildings (235 m)
20. Mexico - 3 buildings (225 m)

21. France - 2 buildings (240 m)
22. Poland - 2 buildings (231 m)
23. Venezuela - 2 buildings (225 m)
24. Kuwait - 1 building (300 m)
25. Turkey - 1 building (261 m)

26. Israel - 1 building (244 m)
27. South Africa - 1 building (223 m)
28. Morocco - 1 building (210 m)
29. Austria - 1 building (202 m)
30. Iran - 1 building (200 m)
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List of Moscow 200+


01 City of Capitals Moscow Tower 302 m
02 Naberezhnaya Tower C 268 m
03 Triumph-Palace 264 m
04 City of Capitals St. Petersburg Tower 255 m
05 Federation Tower West Tower 242 m
06 Moscow State University 240 m
07 Imperia Tower 239m
08 MosFilm Tower 213m
Thanks. I only had 7 in my list, so it took me a while to figure out which one I was missing. Imperia Tower just topped out Congratulations Moscow! You just earned yourself a bump.

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I do beg to differ that "most of the big skyscraper countries seem to measure by roof". To be quite honest it seems to me you've gone by roof height because Canada doesn't have many/any buildings with spires; but that's just my outlook (and other people who I've spoke to as well).
You have a lot of nerve mister. I've put over 100 hours of time, energy, and thought into this thread. I've painstakingly poured over mountains of data all in the hopes of producing a fair, accurate, detailed, concise, credible, FREE data bank for everyone here at SSC (including you), and all you can do is insult my integrity?

Do you have any idea what a big slap in the face that is? Your peer group may be petty and immature, but that doesn't mean other people are. I'm a very easy going fella, but you've really broken a cardinal rule with me.

You're entitled to your own opinions, but if you don't have anything better to do than call my character into question, and slag someone who's frankly devoted far more effort to this project than you, then you can go somewhere else. Those 'other people' you've spoken to that share your negative views of me, can do the same.

Where do you get off talking to people like that? It certainly would never be tolerated in any professional environment. Unfortunately, this is a public forum, and decorum and manners usually go right out the window.

You can get angry with my blunt reply, or take inventory over what's just transpired. Deciding whether that 'pre-nationalistic' list you re-posted should stay might be a good place to start.

You sure know how to make someone feel like crap.
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Here you go 'bus driver':

Addition: Imperia Tower 239 m, Moscow, Russia

200 metre club (City - Number of Buildings Over 200 m - Tallest Building)

01. Hong Kong (54) - 484 m
02. New York (53) -381 m
03. Dubai (42) - 636 m
04. Shanghai (38) - 487 m
05. Chicago (27) - 442 m

06. Shenzhen (24) - 384 m
07. Tokyo (20) - 296 m
08. Houston (14) - 305 m
09. Guangzhou (13) - 441 m
10. Bangkok (12) - 304 m

11. Chongqing (12) - 283 m
12. Seoul (12) - 265 m
13. Singapore (11) - 280 m
14. Jakarta (11) - 262 m
15. Kuala Lumpur (10) - 379 m

16. Atlanta (10) - 312 m
17. Los Angeles (10) - 310 m

On the Bubble

18. Wuhan (8) - 331 m
19. Moscow (8) - 302 m
20. Toronto (8) - 298 m

21. Dallas (7) - 281 m
22. Nanjing (6) - 310 m
23. Melbourne (6) - 297 m
24. Incheon (5) - 305 m
25. Philadelphia (5) - 297 m

26. Dalian (5) - 243 m
27. Osaka (5) - 256 m
28. Doha (5) - 254 m
29. Tianjin (5) - 238 m
30. Sydney (5) - 230 m

The Rest

Shenyang (4) - 305 m
Seattle (4) - 285 m
Frankfurt (4) - 259 m
Madrid (4) - 250 m
Hwaseong (4) - 249 m
Minneapolis (4) - 241 m
London (4) - 235 m

Riyadh (3) - 311 m
Cleveland (3) - 289 m
Gold Coast (3) - 275 m
Charlotte (3) - 265 m
San Francisco (3) - 260 m
Manama (3) - 260 m
Jeddah (3) - 250 m
Nagoya (3) - 247 m
Miami (3) - 242 m
Mexico City (3) - 225 m
Denver (3) - 218 m

Taipei (2) - 508 m
Kaohsiung (2) - 348 m
Pittsburgh (2) - 256 m
Qingdao (2) - 249 m
Mumbai (2) - 249 m
Boston (2) - 241 m
Paris (2) - 240 m
Warsaw (2) - 231 m
Perth (2) - 226 m
Caracas (2) - 225 m
Daegu (2) - 225 m
Panama City (2) - 210 m
Busan (2) - 210 m
Brisbane (2) - 207 m
Ulsan (2) awaiting data

Abu Dhabi (1) - 310 m
Kuwait City (1) - 300 m
Istanbul (1) - 261 m
Chengdu (1) - 260 m
Indianapolis (1) - 253 m
Tel Aviv (1) - 244 m
Jersey City (1) - 238 m
Fukuoka (1) - 234 m
Penang (1) - 232 m
Urumqi (1) - 230 m
Xi'an (1) - 228 m
Mobile (1) - 227 m
Pattaya (1) - 226 m
Las Vegas (1) - 224 m
Johannesburg (1) - 223 m
Detroit (1) - 222 m
Calgary (1) - 215 m
Hanamatsu (1) - 213 m
New Orleans (1) - 212 m
Casablanca (1) - 210 m
Austin (1) - 208 m
Montréal (1) - 205 m
Vienna (1) - 202 m
Vancouver (1) - 201 m
Kish (1) - 200 m
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