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Old May 11th, 2010, 12:28 PM   #121
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Old May 11th, 2010, 01:41 PM   #122
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HK999: That's a huge amount of work you did. CTBUH is a decent site, but ours is more up to date!
yeah, that's the spirit: always up to date! btw, dubai is catching up rapidly... HK will be "defeated" in a couple of weeks.
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Old May 12th, 2010, 10:12 PM   #123
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Corrections on the Japanese statistics

If you are going to count Yokohama as Tokyo you also have to count Kawasaki.

Tokyo: 19
Yokohama: 1
Kawasaki: 1


Osaka prefecture has 5 200m+ towers, but only 4 of them are actually located in Osaka City, the other one is on the outskirts of the metro area.

Osaka City: 4
Izumisano: 1

Osaka prefecture: 5

Other cities:

Nagoya: 3

Hamamatsu: 1

The Fukuoka tower is not a building, it's not habitable so it shouldn't count.


This all adds up to 30 200m+ towers in 6 cities in Japan.
Hey thanks Momo!

I initially had Tokyo separated out into Tokyo (18 buildings), Yokohama (1 building), and Kawasaki (1 building), but have combined them all under Tokyo (20 buildings). Apparently, I'm missing 1 tower for Tokyo. This is what I have so far:

TOKYO

01. Yokohama Landmark Tower, 296 m (Yokohama)
02. Midtown Tower, 248 m
03. Tokyo Metropolitan Government Building, 243 m
04. NTT Docomo Yoyogi Building, 240 m
05. Sunshine 60, 240 m

06. Roppongi Hills Mori Tower, 238 m
07. Shinjuku Park Tower, 235 m
08. Tokyo Opera City Tower, 234 m
09. Shinjuku Mitsui Building, 225 m
10. Shinjuku Center Building, 223 m

11. Saint Luke's Tower, 221 m
12. Izumi Garden Tower, 216 m
13. Shiodome City Center, 216 m
14. Dentsu Building, 213 m
15. Shinjuku Sumitomo Building, 210 m

16. Gran Tokyo North Tower, 205 m
17. Gran Tokyo South Tower, 205 m
18. Mode Gakuen Cocoon, 204 m
19. Park City Musashi-Kosugi Mid-Sky Tower, 204 m (Kawasaki)
20. Shinjuku Nomura Building, 203 m

OSAKA

01. Rinku Gate Tower, 256 m (Izumisano)
02. Osaka World Trade Center, 252 m
03. The Kitahama, 209 m
04. X Tower Osaka Bay, 200 m
05. ORC, 200 m

NAGOYA

01. Midland Square, 247 m
02. JR Central Office Tower, 245 m
03. JR Hotel Tower, 226 m

HANAMATSU

01. ACT Tower, 213 m

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So, Fukuoka Tower is an observation tower like the CN Tower?
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Old May 12th, 2010, 10:31 PM   #124
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yeah, that's the spirit: always up to date! btw, dubai is catching up rapidly... HK will be "defeated" in a couple of weeks.
Looks like Dubai will sprint well in front of both Hong Kong and New York. 33 buildings over 200 m under construction is quite astonishing. I'm still waiting for my city to join that first grouping of 17 cities with at least 10 200 m+ buildings.

We have 6 under construction or under going site preparations and another one imminent, so it's just a matter of time. We might zoom right into a top 10 spot over the next 3 years. About time!
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Panama City, Panama will join it soon

Isaidso finally got the info, here it is:

The Point 255.0 m 65 2010
2 Ocean Two 245.7 m 73 2010
3 Aqualina Tower 210.0 m 63 2007
4 Ocean One 207.0 m 54 2008
5 Aquamare 200.0 m 56 2007

U/C

Los Faros de Panamá (Torre Central) 361.0 m 83 2012 [46] [47] [F]
2 Torre Planetarium 343.0 m 92 Propuesto [48] [B]
3 Megapolis (Torre No.2) 340.0 m 89 2012 [49] [50] [51] [B]
4 Trump Ocean Club International Hotel & Tower 293.0 m 70 2011 [52]
5 Los Faros de Panamá (Torre Izquierda) 290.0 m 73 2012 [C]
6 Los Faros de Panamá (Torre Derecha) 290.0 m 73 2012 [C]
7 Torre Vitri 280.7 m 75 2010 [53]
8 Tower Financial Center 255.1 m 53 2011 [54]
9 Yoo & Arts Tower 252.5 m 75 2010 [55] [56]
10 Revolution Tower 242.9 m 52 2011 [57]
11 Pearl at the Sea 242.2 m 70 2010 [58]
12 Torre Waters 232.0 m 70 2010 [59]
13 Megapolis (Torre No.1) 230.1 m 62 2010 [60] [61] [62]
14 Q Tower 225.6 m 65 2010 [63]
15 Yacht Club Tower 215.0 m 57 2010 [64]
16 Rivage Tower 208.0 m 68 2011 [65]
17 White Tower 205.0 m 62 2010 [66] [67] [B]
18 The Top Towers (1 y 2) 201.0 m 63 2011 1[68] y 2[69]
19 Oasis on the Bay 200.0 m 58 2010 [70]


Red, Very Advance.

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I though there are still a couple of towers missing, let me do some research! =)
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Here you go 'Kenneth'.
Panama City looks set to skyrocket up the tables over the next year or two. Possibly to a strong top 10 ranking? Congratulations!

Additions:
The Point, Panama City, Panama 255 m
Ocean Two, Panama City, Panama 246 m

200 metre club (City - Number of Buildings Over 200 m - Tallest Building)

01. Hong Kong (54) - 484 m
02. New York (53) -381 m
03. Dubai (51) - 636 m
04. Shanghai (38) - 487 m
05. Chicago (27) - 442 m

06. Shenzhen (24) - 384 m
07. Tokyo (20) - 296 m
08. Houston (14) - 305 m
09. Guangzhou (13) - 441 m
10. Bangkok (12) - 304 m

11. Chongqing (12) - 283 m
12. Seoul (12) - 265 m
13. Los Angeles (11) - 310 m
14. Singapore (11) - 280 m
15. Jakarta (11) - 262 m

16. Kuala Lumpur (10) - 379 m
17. Atlanta (10) - 312 m

On the Bubble

18. Wuhan (8) - 331 m
19. Moscow (8) - 302 m
20. Toronto (8) - 298 m

21. Dallas (7) - 281 m
22. Nanjing (6) - 310 m
23. Melbourne (6) - 297 m
24. Incheon (5) - 305 m
25. Philadelphia (5) - 297 m

26. Dalian (5) - 243 m
27. Osaka (5) - 256 m
28. Panama City (5) - 255 m
29. Doha (5) - 254 m
30. Miami (5) - 242 m

31. Tianjin (5) - 238 m
32. Sydney (5) - 230 m
33. Busan (5) - 210 m

The Rest

Shenyang (4) - 305 m
Seattle (4) - 285 m
Charlotte (4) - 265 m
Frankfurt (4) - 259 m
Madrid (4) - 250 m
Hwaseong (4) - 249 m
Minneapolis (4) - 241 m
London (4) - 235 m

Riyadh (3) - 311 m
Cleveland (3) - 289 m
Gold Coast (3) - 275 m
San Francisco (3) - 260 m
Manama (3) - 260 m
Jeddah (3) - 250 m
Nagoya (3) - 247 m
Mexico City (3) - 225 m
Denver (3) - 218 m

Taipei (2) - 508 m
Kaohsiung (2) - 348 m
Pittsburgh (2) - 256 m
Qingdao (2) - 249 m
Mumbai (2) - 249 m
Boston (2) - 241 m
Paris (2) - 240 m
Warsaw (2) - 231 m
Perth (2) - 226 m
Caracas (2) - 225 m
Daegu (2) - 225 m
Brisbane (2) - 207 m
Ulsan (2) awaiting data

Pyongyang (1) - 330 m
Abu Dhabi (1) - 310 m
Kuwait City (1) - 300 m
Istanbul (1) - 261 m
Chengdu (1) - 260 m
Indianapolis (1) - 253 m
Tel Aviv (1) - 244 m
Jersey City (1) - 238 m
Fukuoka (1) - 234 m
Penang (1) - 232 m
Urumqi (1) - 230 m
Xi'an (1) - 228 m
Mobile (1) - 227 m
Pattaya (1) - 226 m
Las Vegas (1) - 224 m
Johannesburg (1) - 223 m
Detroit (1) - 222 m
Calgary (1) - 215 m
Hanamatsu (1) - 213 m
New Orleans (1) - 212 m
Casablanca (1) - 210 m
Austin (1) - 208 m
Montréal (1) - 205 m
Tulsa (1) - 203 m
Vienna (1) - 202 m
Vancouver (1) - 201 m
Cincinnati (1) - 201 m
Kish (1) - 200 m
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Panama zooms from #21 right up to #14!

Additions:

The Point, Panama City, Panama 255 m
Ocean Two, Panama City, Panama 246 m

Countries with the most 200 metre buildings (Tallest building in brackets)

01. China - 176 buildings (487 m)
02. United States - 166 buildings (442 m)
03. United Arab Emirates - 51 buildings (636 m)
04. South Korea - 30 buildings (305 m)
05. Japan - 30 buildings (296 m)

06. Australia - 18 buildings (297 m)
07. Thailand - 13 buildings (304 m)
08. Malaysia - 11 buildings (379 m)
09. Canada - 11 buildings (298 m)
10. Singapore - 11 buildings (280 m)

11. Indonesia - 11 buildings (262 m)
12. Russia - 8 buildings (302 m)
13. Saudi Arabia - 6 buildings (311 m)
14. Panama - 5 buildings (255 m)
15. Qatar - 5 buildings (254 m)

16. Taiwan - 4 buildings (508 m)
17. Germany - 4 buildings (259 m)
18. Spain - 4 buildings (250 m)
19. United Kingdom - 4 buildings (235 m)
20. Bahrain - 3 buildings (260 m)

21. Mexico - 3 buildings (225 m)
22. France - 2 buildings (240 m)
23. Poland - 2 buildings (231 m)
24. Venezuela - 2 buildings (225 m)
25. Kuwait - 1 building (300 m)

26. Turkey - 1 building (261 m)
27. Israel - 1 building (244 m)
28. South Africa - 1 building (223 m)
29. Morocco - 1 building (210 m)
30. Austria - 1 building (202 m)

31. Iran - 1 building (200 m)
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wow, theses information is great, Panama in Number 14, wow, its thats cool. Greetings
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wow, theses information is great, Panama in Number 14, wow, its thats cool. Greetings
Panama will be much higher up than #14 in about a year or two. Maybe #6?
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Panama will be much higher up than #14 in about a year or two. Maybe #6?
i just went through the skyscraper thread and there are 17(!) 200m+ towers U/C and T/O in panama city, respectively. soon, very soon, this city will make it in the top 6!

EDIT: one supertall is currently U/C, two are on hold.
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Yes, they're going to be keeping me very busy. My Top 10 prediction by 2012:

China
United States
United Arab Emirates
South Korea
Japan

Panama
Australia
Canada
Malaysia
Thailand
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i think the fight between those two countries will be the most interesting to watch.
It will get interesting, but one needs to tread carefully. Mere suggestion that Australia may get caught has led to my good name being dragged through the mud already.

As we're on the subject of Australia and Canada, and the mud has been slung, I may as well have a closer look at it.

AUSTRALIA, 18 buildings completed + 3, soon to be 21
1. Gold Coast, Soul, 243 m, U/C
2. Brisbane, Soleil, 243 m, U/C
3. Perth, BHP Billiton, 244 m, U/C

CANADA, 11 buildings completed + 8, soon to be 19
1. Toronto, Shangri-La, 214 m, U/C
2. Toronto, Four Seasons, 210 m, U/C
3. Toronto, Trump Tower, 2??. U/C
4. Calgary, The Bow, 247 m, U/C
5. Calgary, Eighth Avenue Place, 212 m, U/C
6. Toronto, AURA, 252 m, Prep
7. Toronto, L Tower, 205 m, Prep
8. Toronto, Ïce Condos, 217 m, Prep


Any way you slice it, both countries are doing very well when it comes to 200 m+ buildings. Australia gets contributions from all of her cities over 500,000 except Adelaide and Newcastle, or 5 cities. Canada has 11 cities over 500,000, but only 4 of them have buildings over 200m.
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AUSTRALIA, 18 buildings completed + 4, soon to be 22

1. Gold Coast, Soul, 243 m, U/C
2. Brisbane, Soleil, 243 m, U/C
3. Brisbane, Infinity, 236m, U/C
4. Perth, BHP Billiton, 244 m, U/C
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We're going through a run down period (thanks GFC) which is finally picking back up.
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It will get interesting, but one needs to tread carefully.
lol, i'll try but i can't promise anything.

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Australia gets contributions from all of her cities over 500,000 except Adelaide and Newcastle, or 5 cities. Canada has 11 cities over 500,000, but only 4 of them have buildings over 200m.
exactly my thoughts. in canada, toronto is doing its job quite well (calgary too) but what's with the other cities? i know vancouver has height restrictions, unfortunately. so there is only one city left ... yes you got it, it's montreal! i mean, did they get let out of the construction boom? all i see is stagnation (in terms of construction)... no wonder australia has it easier with many cities competing each other.
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Fixed

We're going through a run down period (thanks GFC) which is finally picking back up.
Thanks, I didn't know about that one. Is there a thread for 'Infinity' in the 'World Development News' section under 'Skyscrapers'? I can't find it. Also, what is happening with Eagle Street (2 towers) and Trilogy?

Brisbane is doing really well even if those 3 I'm inquiring about don't pan out.

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exactly my thoughts. in canada, toronto is doing its job quite well (calgary too) but what's with the other cities? i know vancouver has height restrictions, unfortunately. so there is only one city left ... yes you got it, it's montreal! i mean, did they get let out of the construction boom? all i see is stagnation (in terms of construction)... no wonder australia has it easier with many cities competing each other.
Montréal
If you can believe it, Montreal used to be Canada's skyscraper city. In 1963, Montreal had taller buildings than Chicago. Since then they really haven't built tall due to severe height restrictions. Nothing can be taller than Mont Royal (the hill directly north of downtown), or 223 m. That doesn't leave much chance of landing a tower over 200 m.

Presently, Montreal has only 1 building over 200 m, one that misses the mark by a 1 m, then another 3 between 184 m - 190 m. Montreal builds lots of buildings in the 50 m - 200 m range, but nothing much past that. One positive besides protecting views of Mont Royal is that the downtown core is quite expansive. Despite all of these height restrictions, Montreal does have 2 200 m+ proposals: Silo N5 Tower (200 m+) and Tour Centre-Ville (217 m):

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1043447
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1028507

Calgary
Calgary has 2 buildings at 197 m, so the total sits at just Suncor West at 215 m. It will soon to be 3 when The Bow and Eighth Avenue Place top out. All the big towers in Calgary are office, but that looks set to change. I bet we'll start seeing some 200 m condo towers in Calgary pretty soon. Cities reach a point where demand necessitates buildings over 200 m. Calgary is at that tipping point now, so I'm expecting lots of 200 m+ buildings from here on.

Vancouver
Vancouver? All the urban planners and demographers seem to agree that Vancouver has run out of land. Real estate prices are astronomical and they have no option but to start building substantially taller buildings. If Vancouver's population continues growing as it has, we should start to see a flood of 200 m+ buildings popping up all over the downtown core. They won't all be residential either. Planners are alarmed at the dearth of spots to build new office towers. The few spots left will have to be used to maximum benefit. In other words, they're pushing for lots of height.

The Rest
That leaves Ottawa, Edmonton, Quebec City, Winnipeg, Hamilton, Mississauga, and Kitchener-Waterloo. 200 m+ buildings in Mississauga is just a matter of time, but they'll be grouped under Toronto. They're really just a suburb. Ottawa can't build anything taller than the Parliament Buildings, but I wonder if that also applies to Gatineau across the river? The only other plausible city is Hamilton. Proximity to Toronto, and better transit connections to Toronto should result in a population boom there. It will take a while, but Hamilton will mushroom up when it happens.

One interesting possibility beyond these bigger cities is Niagara Falls. It's Canada's only real tourist/casino/resort city. I'm actually surprised that they don't have a 200 m+ tower already.

Summary: it won't be a Toronto show much longer. Calgary has joined the fray, while Vancouver is set to in a very big way. It's really going to be those 3 cities with a few odd buildings in Montreal and perhaps Niagara Falls.

Just for fun I'll go out on a limb and predict the numbers for Canada in 5 years:
Toronto: 26 (8 completed, 6 U/C, 2 Imminent, 10 new projects between now and 2013)
Calgary: 6 (1 completed, 2 U/C, 3 new projects between now and 2013)
Vancouver: 5 (1 completed, 4 new projects between now and 2013)
Montréal: 3 (1 completed, 2 approvals between now and 2013)
Niagara Falls: 1 (1 new project between now and 2013)
CANADA: 41
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thanks man, very informative. especially the thing with montreal ... who would know that.
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Thanks, I didn't know about that one. Is there a thread for 'Infinity' in the 'World Development News' section under 'Skyscrapers'? I can't find it. Also, what is happening with Eagle Street (2 towers) and Trilogy?

Brisbane is doing really well even if those 3 I'm inquiring about don't pan out.
Infinity can be found here in the World Development News Forums, though we don't update that thread much, so here's the link to the it in OzScrapers Section.

Trilogy is on hold but may start up again soon (website), and Eagle St. Piers have been canned I think.
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Istanbul city, 200 meters above the third one has a skyscraper under construction in a more.
4 tallest skyscrapers in Istanbul and Turkey
Diamond of Istanbul=270m(886 ft) 53 fl U/c
Sapphire of Istanbul=261m(856 ft) 54 flComp.
Anthill Residence 1=210m(689 ft) 54 fl T/O
Anthill Residence 2=210m(689 ft) 54 fl T/O
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Istanbul city, 200 meters above the third one has a skyscraper under construction in a more.
4 tallest skyscrapers in Istanbul and Turkey
Diamond of Istanbul=270m(886 ft) 53 fl U/c
Sapphire of Istanbul=261m(856 ft) 54 flComp.
Anthill Residence 1=210m(689 ft) 54 fl T/O
Anthill Residence 2=210m(689 ft) 54 fl T/O
Thank you for the information regarding Sapphire, Diamond, and the 2 Anthill buildings. I can't include either of the Anthill buildings though. This is an inventory list that measures roof height. Buildings that only attain 200 m or more by sticking an antenna or spire on top are not included.

If you notice, all the buildings listed here have roof heights of 200 m, or more. The tallest building in each city lists the tallest roof height in each. Both Anthill buildings have a roof height of 195 m and a 15 metre antenna stuck on top.

I also need to make a correction for the height of Sapphire from 261 m to 238 m, and the entry for Turkey. On a more positive note, the Diamond of Istanbul will be added once it tops out.

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