Chennai - Waterways Cleaning and Restoration Project Updates

[seku]

Originally Posted by ChennaiIndian

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chenn...ars-stalin-718

Aug. 4: About 1,200 automobile spare parts shops and small-scale industries that had encroached the Cooum river bank along Chintadripet and Pudupet in central Chennai will be shifted to Singaperumal Koil in Kancheepuram district under the Cooum River Restoration project, deputy chief minister M. K. Stalin told reporters on Wednesday.

Inaugurating two parks constructed by the city corporation at a cost of Rs 2.21 crore along the bank of Cooum river opposite Chintadripet, he said the Rs 1,200 crore river restoration project will be completed in six years.

The public encroaching the river bank will be shifted and rehabilitated by the government, he added. The state government has already shifted 1,028 families, which were encroaching the Cooum, to residential colonies in Okkiyam Thoraipakkam.

In the next two years, all the encroachments and settlements along the Cooum will be removed and the scientific restoration will be completed in a phased manner on the lines of Singapore river restoration programme. In Singapore, the project took 10 years for completion.

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will they be removing the encroachments from adyar river also?

[nsantha2]

Originally Posted by seku

will they be removing the encroachments from adyar river also?

There is some talk of building a park on the South bank of the Adyar, east of the Kotturpuram Bridge. It was linked to earlier in the forum from here - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ow/6234604.cms

[Mad 4 Madras]

Originally Posted by ChennaiIndian

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chenn...ars-stalin-718

Aug. 4: About 1,200 automobile spare parts shops and small-scale industries that had encroached the Cooum river bank along Chintadripet and Pudupet in central Chennai will be shifted to Singaperumal Koil in Kancheepuram district under the Cooum River Restoration project, deputy chief minister M. K. Stalin told reporters on Wednesday.

Inaugurating two parks constructed by the city corporation at a cost of Rs 2.21 crore along the bank of Cooum river opposite Chintadripet, he said the Rs 1,200 crore river restoration project will be completed in six years.

The public encroaching the river bank will be shifted and rehabilitated by the government, he added. The state government has already shifted 1,028 families, which were encroaching the Cooum, to residential colonies in Okkiyam Thoraipakkam.

In the next two years, all the encroachments and settlements along the Cooum will be removed and the scientific restoration will be completed in a phased manner on the lines of Singapore river restoration programme. In Singapore, the project took 10 years for completion.

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Within 6years is highly optimistic. Cheers to Stalin and Co.

[Kewl Batty]

Don't be over excited.. Let them start some work first.

[birraj]

Originally Posted by ChennaiIndian

he said the Rs 1,200 crore river restoration project will be completed in six years.
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It should be read The transfer of Rs 1,200 crore river restoration project money to my personal Swiss bank account will be completed in six years. HaHaHa -Not sure how many times we will be cheated {sigh}

[vijay_t]

Originally Posted by birraj

It should be read The transfer of Rs 1,200 crore river restoration project money to my personal Swiss bank account will be completed in six years. HaHaHa -Not sure how many times we will be cheated {sigh}

So can we ask him to stop all projects to stop this corruption? Whoever brings some projects is cheater is it?

For your info politicians also know how to rob all money without doing anything … this is not good buddy change yourself ...

[satchitananda]

Originally Posted by birraj

It should be read The transfer of Rs 1,200 crore river restoration project money to my personal Swiss bank account will be completed in six years. HaHaHa -Not sure how many times we will be cheated {sigh}

Cleaning Cooum is a favorite way to empty the treasury. Remember in 60's they even tried to revive boating without stopping the sewer inflow.

That being said, it is critical for us to have a clean waterway for more than one reasons. I think an alert public can minimize the wastage or siphoning of funds. Birraj we need more cautious folks like you to be watching like a hawk.

[cofee]

Originally Posted by vijay_t

So can we ask him to stop all projects to stop this corruption? Whoever brings some projects is cheater is it?

For your info politicians also know how to rob all money without doing anything … this is not good buddy change yourself ...

vudnga Vijay sir etho athangathila pesitar.

Still residential drainage, CMWSSB sewage and commercial waste are draining into Chennai waterways.

not fixing the source/base of the problem instead working on result of the problem.

1.install UG drainage pipes and pump treated drainage to sea via pipes

2.Enforce action on polluters of waterways.

It is not rocket science - The waterways will flush clean naturally in 3-4 years after that.


News for you the same Gov that is spending Rs1200 C to clean up water ways has called for tender (4 weeks ago) to build 36 MDL CMWSSB STP on Karrapakkam (New Kumaran Nagar back of Akarai ISKON temple) next to Buckingham Canal to drain the semi treated sewage.

That polluted water will spoil our only boating spot down stream at Muttukadu.

Question:

1. Why do all CMWSSB STP's and pumping stations are always situated next to waterways (Coovam, Adyar,BC, Oteri Nalla and Pallikarani Marsh)?
Answer:
So they can drain the raw sewer in the Waterways.

2. Do we have any any STPs or pumping station draining Trillion liters of sewage directly to sea Via pipes
Answer: No - they flow freely on city's open water ways and breading germs.


Ithuthan "Pullaiya Killivitu thotillai atturatho"

How serious and sensible are our politicians? Do they really want to fix the problem or just waste taxpayers money on some temporary stunt?

So, Frustration irukatha pinna ?

[nsantha2]

Originally Posted by vijay_t

So can we ask him to stop all projects to stop this corruption? Whoever brings some projects is cheater is it?

For your info politicians also know how to rob all money without doing anything … this is not good buddy change yourself ...

I'm not sure I understand this? He's merely pointing out that the "cleaning Cooum" excuse has been a great excuse in the past for doing nothing and happily siphoning funds from the public. What are you asking him to? Stop criticising the absolutely ridiculous way this has been handled in the past, or to keep quiet about corruption in the future?

I'm personally fine with someone siphoning 10-15% of a project's cost IF THEY DID SOMETHING. Sure, overestimate the budget for cleaning the Cooum and pocket the difference, as long as you actually get the job done.

[vijay_t]

Originally Posted by nsantha2

I'm not sure I understand this? He's merely pointing out that the "cleaning Cooum" excuse has been a great excuse in the past for doing nothing and happily siphoning funds from the public. What are you asking him to? Stop criticising the absolutely ridiculous way this has been handled in the past, or to keep quiet about corruption in the future?

I'm personally fine with someone siphoning 10-15% of a project's cost IF THEY DID SOMETHING. Sure, overestimate the budget for cleaning the Cooum and pocket the difference, as long as you actually get the job done.

OK OK ....No politicians in India is clean...what i am saying is at least this Stalin is much better than many others ...he is some what trying to full fill at least certain percentage of his promise ... If i compare Stalin with his dad, then i will say Stalin is much better than his dad. Why he need to go all around the world to find experts to do this ? as like others he too can simply sit and steal whole money right ?

As he just started to work on this why we need to blame him for the past bad history about this coovum ? ....As like you said i too think its OK if they took 10 ~ 15% ...so lets give him a chance and see first, before come to a conclusion.

[nsantha2]

Originally Posted by vijay_t

OK OK ....No politicians in India is clean...what i am saying is at least this Stalin is much better than many others ...he is some what trying to full fill at least certain percentage of his promise ... If i compare Stalin with his dad, then i will say Stalin is much better than his dad. Why he need to go all around the world to find experts to do this ? as like others he too can simply sit and steal whole money right ?

As he just started to work on this why we need to blame him for the past bad history about this coovum ? ....As like you said i too think its OK if they took 10 ~ 15% ...so lets give him a chance and see first, before come to a conclusion.

In my mind, the jury is out on Stalin. He's active now, but I'd have to give him a few years (and probably longer) before I can give him a clean chit. Let's see how he handles this round of the clean-up.

[think_different]

Originally Posted by vijay_t

OK OK ....No politicians in India is clean...what i am saying is at least this Stalin is much better than many others ...he is some what trying to full fill at least certain percentage of his promise ... If i compare Stalin with his dad, then i will say Stalin is much better than his dad. Why he need to go all around the world to find experts to do this ? as like others he too can simply sit and steal whole money right ?

As he just started to work on this why we need to blame him for the past bad history about this coovum ? ....As like you said i too think its OK if they took 10 ~ 15% ...so lets give him a chance and see first, before come to a conclusion.

+1

[PlaneMad]

Originally Posted by cofee

1. Why do all CMWSSB STP's and pumping stations are always situated next to waterways (Coovam, Adyar,BC, Oteri Nalla and Pallikarani Marsh)?
Answer:
So they can drain the raw sewer in the Waterways.

2. Do we have any any STPs or pumping station draining Trillion liters of sewage directly to sea Via pipes
Answer: No - they flow freely on city's open water ways and breading germs.

The treated water which comes out of STP's in most cases is fit enough for drinking. Letting it flow into rivers, helps to dilute the existing pollutants as well as increase the flow.

[ranga]

Originally Posted by nsantha2

I'm not sure I understand this? He's merely pointing out that the "cleaning Cooum" excuse has been a great excuse in the past for doing nothing and happily siphoning funds from the public. What are you asking him to? Stop criticising the absolutely ridiculous way this has been handled in the past, or to keep quiet about corruption in the future?

I'm personally fine with someone siphoning 10-15% of a project's cost IF THEY DID SOMETHING. Sure, overestimate the budget for cleaning the Cooum and pocket the difference, as long as you actually get the job done.

That is the copyright of A.P.U have to pay goodwill for that.

[sridhar_n]

Originally Posted by think_different

+1

what an irony..10%-15% (corruption) has become a norm now..perhaps, has become a part of our lives !!!!

[lookinflowers]

http://www.youtube.com/user/apgatjens

[cofee]

Originally Posted by PlaneMad

The treated water which comes out of STP's in most cases is fit enough for drinking. Letting it flow into rivers, helps to dilute the existing pollutants as well as increase the flow.

In theory yes.

In developed countries yes.

In chennai BIG NO.

They just remove the solid sludge and let the more runny liquid out in to water bodies and call it treated.

To relay treat sewage it cost money. would you trust CMWSSB goverment servants?

Look at water quality of coovam

[arun82]

Originally Posted by vijay_t

OK OK ....No politicians in India is clean...what i am saying is at least this Stalin is much better than many others ...he is some what trying to full fill at least certain percentage of his promise ... If i compare Stalin with his dad, then i will say Stalin is much better than his dad. Why he need to go all around the world to find experts to do this ? as like others he too can simply sit and steal whole money right ?

As he just started to work on this why we need to blame him for the past bad history about this coovum ? ....As like you said i too think its OK if they took 10 ~ 15% ...so lets give him a chance and see first, before come to a conclusion.

Atleast he has decided to spend the money on cleaning the drainage without thinking of putting hundreds of Animal statues and his own life size statues in the middle of city bringing down hundreds of buildings

[satchitananda]

I am disappointed with the way we seem to be thinking...

If a politician takes 10-15% its no good.. remember we are talking of hundreds of crores. eventually thousands..

ATLEAST in our expectations, we cannot let the moral standard drop. When we keep lowering our standards and expectations, human nature is to stoop further lower. When a kid gets 95, you want to expect 100 or atleast give the child the hope or possibility exists of 100. Not to congratulate on getting 2 marks above the passmark.

Lets keep the vision and standards higher. Dont let reality contaminate the vision, for vision is future reality and if we negate it, we will stuck with what we argue for (lesser current junk)

I do not want to hijack the thread from cleaning Chennai waterways to cleaning politicians. A solution is possible for the former.. no hope exists for the latter.

[Keeran]

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