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Old March 7th, 2012, 05:35 AM   #261
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Waiting Time Between Trains Decreased on Longhua Metro Line

Mar 06, 2012 eChinacities.com Noticed something different about Shenzhen's Longhua Metro Line? Since March 1st, the interval time between arriving trains was decreased during evening rush hour (17:30-20:00) from 4.25 minutes to 3.75 minutes. And that's not all; plans are under way to increase the number of trains operating on the line to 24 to further increase efficiency during rush hour commutes. It's also hoped that by the end of March, interval time will be further decreased to 3 minutes between each train.

Source: http://www.echinacities.com/shenzhen...etro-line.html
Can someone tell me what the ridership for Shenzhen's metro has been after the increase in number of lines/stations.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 06:31 AM   #262
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Can someone tell me what the ridership for Shenzhen's metro has been after the increase in number of lines/stations.

That's a number I found from end of July 2011.
"The total number of Metro passengers exceeded 2.1 million last weekend."

So I believe that it is now around the same or even a bit higher.

Source: http://www.sz2011.org/Universiade/ne...en/22914.shtml

Interesting is the fact that "...Shenzhen buses carried 5.9 million passengers a day, slightly higher than before the opening of the Metro lines."

Might be a result of getting by bus to metro stations.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 03:42 AM   #263
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Trolley car

PINGSHAN New Zone is planning to build a network of tramlines to reduce traffic and attract investment.
The new zone, which is 50 kilometers away from downtown Shenzhen, is the only zone in the city without a Metro service.
The electric-powered trams are environmentally friendly and cost efficient. The tramlines will connect with Metro Line 3. The 20-kilometer rail is expected to cost 2 billion yuan and could be finished as early as 2015.

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Old March 15th, 2012, 04:51 AM   #264
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Metro adding trains

SHENZHEN Metro plans to purchase 76 trains this year and put them into use on the Luobao, Shekou and Huanzhong lines within two years, a Metro official said.

Chief engineer Huang Yong of Shenzhen Metro Operation Co. said 33 trains will be added to the Luobao Line, while 17 trains and 26 trains will be added to the Shekou and Huanzhong lines, respectively.

A total of 181 trains currently operate on five Metro lines across Shenzhen.

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Old March 15th, 2012, 06:50 PM   #265
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What effect on frequency will the additional cars have?
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Old March 15th, 2012, 07:09 PM   #266
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PINGSHAN New Zone is planning to build a network of tramlines to reduce traffic and attract investment.
The new zone, which is 50 kilometers away from downtown Shenzhen, is the only zone in the city without a Metro service.
Shall it be a trolley or a tram?
Also, is there Metro service to Dapeng New District?
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Old March 15th, 2012, 11:19 PM   #267
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Shall it be a trolley or a tram?
Also, is there Metro service to Dapeng New District?
It mentions tramlines... why do you think that could be a trolley bus?
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Old March 16th, 2012, 08:11 AM   #268
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Shall it be a trolley or a tram?
Also, is there Metro service to Dapeng New District?

As it is mentioned in the article, Pingshan New District is the only zone in the city without Metro service. Actually this information is not right coz Guangming New District and Dapeng New District also don't have any metro going there.

If they built the tram line in Pingshan than it will be connected to Line 3 which is the metro line to Longgang.

The closest you can go by metro to Dapeng New District will be with the currently planned metro line 8 to Xiaomeisha. From there you still have to take a bus to Dapeng.

I'd say it will be a tram like the Light Rail network in HK for example.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 08:21 AM   #269
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What effect on frequency will the additional cars have?
Definitely a decreasing one. As the length of all five lines and numbers of stations are more or less in an even relation I'd say it might have be the highest decrease on Luobao Line (Line 1) and Huanzhong Line (Line 5) as more trains means shorter intervall between arriving trains. Especially for the fact that on Line 5 trains departure just every 13 minutes which is by far too long time for a metro system to wait for a train. Luobao Line needs more trains to handle all the people during the morning and evening rush-hour as it is right now the line which handles around 35% (ca. 700.000 ppl a day) of the whole network.

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Old March 17th, 2012, 03:16 AM   #270
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For an express line, I feel that there are too many redundant stations, particularly Hongshuwan, Nanshan, Baoan and Bihaiwan. They are not really needed at all for this line. Hongshuwan passengers should funnel to Houhai, Nanshan to Qianhai, and Baoan + Bihaiwan can just catch Luobao line to the airport anyway. Hongshuwan and Bihaiwan are done purely to appea$e the upper middle cla$$ living in the area, and Nanshan and Baoan are a result of district government politics.

Also, this line is supposed to eventually transform into a Guangzhou-Dongguan-Shenzhen intercity line, meaning those stations mentioned will seriously hamper the travel speed between the cities. Finally, it still takes forever for the people of Longgang to get to the airport by rail, so the north-east express line from Futian to Longgang is needed asap. At least the money saved from not building those redundant stations can be used to fund the north-east line.
that's true.. TOO MANY STATIONS between Airport and Futian!!!

GUANGZHOU-DONGGUAN-SHENZHEN INTERCITY RAIL will have its own way... nothing to do with the Airport Line now.. also GZ-DG-SZ Rail is not going to Futian anymore..
firstly it may terminates at Shenzhen Airport East.. then it will be extended to Qianhaiwan..

but the Guangdong Province government is quite interested in the Shenzhen-Hong Kong west rail..
they are considering if there is any chances to combine GZ-DG-SZ intercity rail with SZ-HK West Rail... all the way from Guangzhou Baiyun Airport to Hong Kong International Airport via Shenzhen Bao'an Airport...
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Old March 17th, 2012, 03:23 AM   #271
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What is the business scheme for this airport line? For example, cost savings , improvement in efficiency and more passengers equal bonuses/profits going to management/employees?

I don't have access to the books but I am quite sure airport "express" services are not profitable.
It is considered as 'airport express' but somehow it is not.
There are less stations between airport and the city centre.. but there are still a number of stations, at least not liked the one in Hong Kong...
also, more stations are set further when you passed airport.. For those who is living in the northwest Shenzhen, this line is a really quick public transportation to city centre...

It seems like it is another version of the existed line- Luobao Line.. but it goes further.. less time needed between airport and city centre.. more comfortable(there will be first class coaches in Airport Line service)..
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Old March 17th, 2012, 03:28 AM   #272
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Yeah, I noticed the difference in maps shown online and even on Google maps. I guess the Hong Kong Airport Express is supposed to be more luxurious than the Shenzhen Airport Line. I took the HK Airport Express in 2010 and was very impressed. I think every city with a large airport should have a fast way to get from the airport to downtown. Shanghai's maglev almost does it.




Numbers pulled from Wikipedia:
Shenzhen Luobao Line: Airport East -> Luohu 68 min, 41.04 km (25.5 mi)
Shenzhen Airport Line: Airport T3 -> Futian 29 min, 49.7 km (30.8 mi)
Hong Kong Airport Express: Airport -> Hong Kong 24 min, 35.3 km (21.9mi)

The time from the airport for the Shenzhen Airport Line looks reasonable compared to other lines. I wouldn't want to sit on a subway for over an hour to get to my destination. Hopefully they can find a way to increase the speed on the Airport Line. I'm surprised that the Airport Line is 5 miles longer than the Luobao Line, doesn't make sense.
Airport Line goes from Bitou to Futian... Airport - Futian is just a part of Airport Line...

Also.. Luohu is further than Futian... But I think some people suggested that the Airport line should extend more closer to Luohu where the old city centre was..
Such as to Huangqiang North or Caiwuwei(Grand Theatre)..
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Old March 17th, 2012, 03:39 AM   #273
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Can someone tell me what the ridership for Shenzhen's metro has been after the increase in number of lines/stations.
2.06 million daily last week
SUN 2.2334 million
MON 1.9998 million
TUE 1.9702 million
WED 1.9849 million
THU 2.0673 million
FRI 2.0823 million
SAT 2.0896 million

this time last year should be around 0.6 million daily
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Old March 18th, 2012, 04:20 PM   #274
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BREAKING NEWS...
A station will be added on Airport Line
between Fuyong and Airport, set for T4
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Old March 18th, 2012, 05:23 PM   #275
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good news
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Old March 18th, 2012, 09:50 PM   #276
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Does that imply a Terminal 4 will be built at the airport? I thought the SkyscraperCity consensus was that the Airport Line is already so packed with stations that another station will makes things worse.
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Old March 21st, 2012, 05:43 AM   #277
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Does that imply a Terminal 4 will be built at the airport? I thought the SkyscraperCity consensus was that the Airport Line is already so packed with stations that another station will makes things worse.
It may causes(or causing) delay in Airport Line construction.
Still no timetable for T4 construstion yet.
But one can be confirmed that Terminals A and B will not be in operation after T3 opens. By doing so, T4 may be built earlier than we thought.
I think the delay in Airport Line construction will only effect on the part after T3 to the north, from T3 to city centre may open as planned.
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 04:28 AM   #278
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Car market to be demolished



AN auto market in Futian District will be demolished to make way for the planned Metro Line 9, the Futian District Government announced Tuesday.

Covering more than 110,000 square meters, Pengchengbao Car Market is east of Qiaocheng East Road and south of Baishi Road.

The demolition is scheduled to start April 9 and finish before June 30, the Southern Metropolis Daily reported.

Twenty-three auto dealers employ about 2,000 people in the market, where workers are expressing concerns about their future incomes after their shops are relocated.

An employee at a Buick shop in the market, identified only as Wu, said he earns about 5,000 yuan (US$794) each month. He’s certain that amount will decrease after the shop is relocated to Nanshan District. The Buick shop has more than 100 employees.

Although the market’s land use rights expired Oct. 30, 2010, the market’s management company continued to collect rent from the dealers, the paper said.

The management company said it applied for an extension of the land use rights immediately after they expired, but didn’t receive notice of the government’s rejection until the end of last year. All the dealers were informed of the situation, the company said.

The Futian District Government has ruled against providing compensation for the dealers’ relocation, because the market’s land use rights have expired.(Li Hao)



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Old March 30th, 2012, 01:59 AM   #279
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the first set of Longhua Line trains were all arrived at Shenzhen..
got the video of the last train (24th) when it was sent to MTR(Shenzhen) Longhua Deport
another 4 will arrive before the end of the year
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzczMTM5MTgw.html
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Old March 30th, 2012, 04:15 AM   #280
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Yes, also just read about it. Nice video.

Here is what's written on SZ Daily:

New trains placed on Longhua Line depot yesterday.
Staff members beside a new train. MTR Shenzhen Company, the operator of Longhua Line, starts a new schedule after a total of 24 trains were put in place Thursday.
The intervals of departures have been shortened from eight minutes to three minutes. The line is expected to carry 190,000 passengers a week after the intervals are intensified.
Sun Yuchen




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