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Old August 16th, 2012, 10:08 PM   #361
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Taken this morning by me.

As the Futian Station serves for the current line 2 & 3 and in the future line 11 and the high-speed rail to BeiJing I thought it might fit in this thread as well.

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hahaha you should repost it in the thread "CHINA HIGHSPEED RAIL"!!!!
the station is pretty much done but the channel between shenzhen north and futian is still "crawling as snails".................

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Old August 16th, 2012, 10:10 PM   #362
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Four rail lines at Futian station all underground, pretty impressive. What will we see above ground when the whole station is completed?
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Old August 16th, 2012, 10:14 PM   #363
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Another batch of photos. This time of the part along Shennan Dadao which I took after lunch while going back to the office.
It seems to me like a pick-up/drop-off area for taxis after the station will be open directly connected underground with all the metro and HSR facilities.

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wow... i thought the pick-up/drop-off area was underground as well... wrong...
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Old August 16th, 2012, 10:25 PM   #364
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thanks....I thought we might see something significant above ground related to the station like the new NYC Path station which is also an underground station. So Yitian Road with escalator entrances in the area is what we'll see.
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Old August 24th, 2012, 03:46 AM   #365
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Sales sluggish for Metro day tickets

SHENZHEN Metro Co. has sold just 7,471 day tickets, or 146 per day, since it introduced the tickets that offer unlimited rides for a day nearly two months ago.
The amount of day tickets sold is less than 0.5 percent of Shenzhen Metro’s daily turnover of 2 million passengers, which includes about 400,000 passengers who use tokens or tickets rather than Shenzhentong cards on the city’s five lines. Shenzhen Metro introduced the day tickets to relieve sales of tokens on weekends and holidays, but that result hasn’t developed.
Shenzhen Metro started day ticket sales July 1, targeting travelers from outside the city and residents of Longgang and Bao’an districts who spend their weekends visiting tourist attractions or shopping in Luohu, Futian, Nanshan and Yantian districts. For a price of 20 yuan (US$3.16), day-ticket buyers can take unlimited rides on Metro trains within 24 hours.
Most of the sold day tickets were bought on Metro lines that service Longgang and Bao’an.
Three stations — the Qinghu, Longsheng and Long-hua stations on the Longhua Line — accounted for one-third of the line’s total day ticket sales.
Several factors could be contributing to the slow start in sales. A Metro survey showed that nearly 60 percent of Metro riders aren’t aware that day tickets are available and day tickets aren’t economical for daily commuters.
Some commuters said Shenzhen Metro could issue monthly tickets to benefit commuters, many of whom think local Metro fares are too expensive.
A Metro rider surnamed Wang said she spends about 300 yuan a month on Metro rides.
“The Metro company has offered day tickets, why not monthly tickets?” Wang asked.
An official at Shenzhen’s rail office said it’s not the right time to issue monthly tickets because ticket scanners can’t identify ticket-holders, meaning several people could share one monthly ticket. Monthly tickets also would reduce Shenzhen Metro’s profits and wouldn’t be good for the company’s practice of sustainable development, the official said.


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Old August 24th, 2012, 03:47 AM   #366
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2 more carriages, but 2 years later

LONGHUA Line operator MTR (Shenzhen) said it would add two carriages to each of the line’s trains by the end of 2014, the Daily Sunshine reported Thursday.
Each train on the line, also known as Line 4, has four carriages. Passengers have blamed the short trains for causing severe crowding during rush hours.
Netizens also expressed dissatisfaction with the long wait for MTR to lengthen the trains and said they hoped local government would pressure MTR to add the carriages as soon as possible.

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Old August 25th, 2012, 02:34 AM   #367
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LONGHUA Line operator MTR (Shenzhen) said it would add two carriages to each of the line’s trains by the end of 2014, the Daily Sunshine reported Thursday.
Each train on the line, also known as Line 4, has four carriages. Passengers have blamed the short trains for causing severe crowding during rush hours.
Netizens also expressed dissatisfaction with the long wait for MTR to lengthen the trains and said they hoped local government would pressure MTR to add the carriages as soon as possible.

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I recall Guangzhou having the same problem with Line 3. They underestimated how popular the line would be and used 4 car's, which caused daily crowding, even during non-peak times. They switched to 6 cars and now the line runs very smoothly.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 03:11 PM   #368
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I recall Guangzhou having the same problem with Line 3. They underestimated how popular the line would be and used 4 car's, which caused daily crowding, even during non-peak times. They switched to 6 cars and now the line runs very smoothly.
but the Longhua Line in Shenzhen is not that crowded during off-peak time, even with doubled or triple intervals as during peak. that's why they are still using 4 cars and buy more four-car trains.

if they can keep shortening up the interval during peak to 1min30s for more or even all (it is 3min now during peak time with two or three 1min30s intervals), i dont think it is still a problem with it.

i think the time for MTR need to run 6-car trains is when Guangming Line begin to operate as travellers have to change to Longhua line for going into the city. otherwise Longhua line will definitely be a nightmare.

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Old August 30th, 2012, 05:58 AM   #369
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Joint transportation cards for sale Sept. 4

THE long-awaited union of Shenzhentong and Hong Kong’s Octopus cards will occur Sept. 4, when administrators of the two cards issue new joint cards in the two cities.
Border-crossing travelers will be able to use public transportation, shop in supermarkets and convenience stores, and eat in participating restaurants in both cities, with one card.
The new smart card will contain one electronic chip and be able to access two accounts. When consumers spend in Hong Kong, money will be automatically deducted in local currency, and vice versa.
How many cards will be issued and how much they will cost remained unknown this week, according to an article in yesterday’s Shenzhen Special Zone Daily.
Shenzhentong, a contactless smart card system for electronic payment, provides quick payment and access to five Metro lines, 10,000 buses, 350 taxis and 3,000 small businesses in the city.
Shenzhentong Co. has issued 15 million cards and the daily transaction volume has reached 7 million. In Shenzhen, supermarkets including Jusco, China Resources Vanguard and A-Best accept Shenzhentong cards for payment.
More than 4,500 service providers in Hong Kong accept Octopus cards for payment and more than 60,000 Octopus scanning machines cover public transport, parking, retail businesses, schools and entertainment facilities. The daily value of Octopus card transactions has reached HK$120 million (US$15 million).


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Old August 31st, 2012, 04:20 AM   #370
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Metro work to close Huaqiangbei roads

PRIMARY vehicle roadways in Huaqiangbei will be closed for up to three years during construction of a new Metro line in the area, Shenzhen Economic Daily reported Thursday.
The new, north-south Metro Line 7 will be 30 kilometers long and have 28 stops. It will run from Xili in Nanshan District to Tianbei in Luohu District, passing through the Huaqiangbei commercial area in Futian District. Officials said the construction will start late this year and be completed in 2016. Huaqiangbei Road will be the most affected by the construction.
Metro Line 7 is among five new lines slated for construction in Shenzhen during the city’s third phase of Metro construction, which will last until 2016. The other four lines are 11, 9, 6 and 8.
The new Metro lines will extend the city’s current 180 kilometers of Metro lines to 350 kilometers. The total investment will amount to 101.8 billion yuan (US$16 billion). After the construction is completed, it is estimated that the average number of passengers on city Metro lines will reach 4 million per day.
Deputies to the local people’s congress, business representatives and construction leaders discussed Metro expansion plans and related issues Wednesday. Discussions focused on the Huaqiangbei area’s business development needs, setup of construction fenders, the re-routing of pedestrians and construction regulations.
Businesses including Shenzhen Electronics Group Co., Huaqiang Group, Shenzhen Textile Holdings Co., Maoye International Holdings and Women’s World all have expressed support for the vast Metro project, but also hope to minimize the effects of its construction on their business.
Three Metro lines currently run through the Huaqiangbei area. Business representatives suggested that nearby underground stations on Line 7 connect with underground commercial areas and exits of Metro lines 1 and 2 in Huaqiangbei.
Metro construction officials said the construction would comply with national standards to ensure safety and sanitation and reduce noise and dust to a minimum.
Most business representatives agreed with the road closures, but suggested that officials publish contact information for construction units to boost public supervision, and compensate businesses for potential lost revenue during the construction.
Ai Shaofeng, deputy general manager of Women’s World, said merchants will suffer substantial losses during the three years of road closures. She said merchants should be allowed to advertise on construction fences and carry out outdoor promotions and weekend deals to reduce the losses.


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There is also another articel on this website about "
New inter-city railways to be built". Maybe someone else can open it and post it here. Cheers
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Old September 2nd, 2012, 11:26 PM   #371
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In most cities public demand fails to meet official estimations, but in Shenzhen it was the opposite and subways are even more popular than expected. Is it the same in other Chinese cities? Do you think the local govs will speed up subway projects because of this?
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Old September 3rd, 2012, 07:59 AM   #372
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In most cities public demand fails to meet official estimations, but in Shenzhen it was the opposite and subways are even more popular than expected. Is it the same in other Chinese cities? Do you think the local govs will speed up subway projects because of this?
Most Chinese local governments already are speeding up subway projects and comnig up with grand plans. Shenzhen and Guangzhou are both success stories of how a subway can be a huge boost to the quality of life, and are incredibly popular. Other cities have sped up construction like Nanjing and Foshan, and many cities are following these successes with subway plans of their own. I don't have a link handy, but there are a several smaller cities in China blowing u their budget in hopes they too can have success with a subway line and provide a stimulus to their local economies.

The challenge will be whether these investments will make sense. If new transportation doesn't speed up growth in the economy, and the housing market crashes, the subway could be hugely wasteful spending, and the smaller cities have a high risk of defaulting on their bank loans. It is a huge risk for a great reward.
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New smart card for SZ, HK on sale

The first limited editions of the Hu Tong Xing smart cards, on sale today in Hong Kong and Shenzhen, were unveiled yesterday. The new electronic payment cards, presented jointly by Hong Kong Octopus Cards and Shenzhentong Co., uses one chip with access to two accounts and can deduct local currency automatically in Shenzhen and Hong Kong. Limited editions of the inaugural Hu Tong Xing cards will be sold — 3,800 sets of two cards each, with matching serial numbers, in each city — starting today, for HK$298 (US$38) in Hong Kong and 238 yuan (US$38) in Shenzhen. General sales of the cards will begin next Tuesday, for HK$98 and 80 yuan. Shenzheners can buy the cards at Shenzhentong service centers across the city and four Metro stations — Futian Checkpoint, Shenzhen North Station, Luohu, and Shekou Port.


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Was excited hoping this card would also work in Guangzhou, but it seems they still haven't completed the "one card to rule them all" upgrades they are making this year.
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Old September 4th, 2012, 09:32 AM   #375
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^ Oh it's supposed to be compatible with Guangzhou's system as well?
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Old September 5th, 2012, 05:14 AM   #376
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^ Oh it's supposed to be compatible with Guangzhou's system as well?
Yes, but concerning the latest articel on Shenzhen Daily it will be combined with the Lingnan Tong at the end of 2015.

Buyers call two-city cards handy, costly


Wu Shuanghui and his wife present the commemorative, limited-edition set of Hu Tong Xing cards they bought at Shenzhen North Station yesterday.

A standard Hong Kong version of the Hu Tong Xing card.

SHENZHEN residents have shown a strong demand for the new limited-edition Hu Tong Xing travel cards that went on sale yesterday at Shenzhentong customer service centers and some Metro stations.
Although only 3,800 of the commemorative, limited-edition sets — of two cards each, for 238 yuan (US$37.50) — are for sale in Shenzhen this week, a resident surnamed Qian arrived at Shenzhen North Station of the Metro’s Longhua Line early yesterday morning and bought eight sets of the Hu Tong Xing cards, which can be used for payment on public transportation and at participating retail stores and restaurants in Shenzhen and Hong Kong.
“I originally planned to buy three sets. (But) I received phone calls from friends while I was queuing and they asked me to buy cards for them, too,” Qian said.
The cards are also for sale at service centers of three other Metro stations: Luohu, Futian Checkpoint and Shekou Port.
Shenzhentong Co. estimated nearly 2,000 sets of the limited-edition Hu Tong Xing cards were sold yesterday.
The standard Hong Kong version of Hu Tong Xing cards, colored orange and priced at HK$98 (US$13), or 80 yuan, will be on sale in Hong Kong and Shenzhen starting Sept. 11. A Shenzhen version will be available at the end of the year, officials said at a Monday news conference.
The Hong Kong and Shenzhen versions of the Hu Tong Xing card can each be used in both cities and have the same functionality. The only difference between the two is that the Hong Kong version lists Hong Kong more prominently, and vice versa.
In an online survey, 37.8 percent of respondents said they intended to buy Hu Tong Xing cards but thought the two-city card was too expensive.
“Shenzhentong cards need a 20-yuan deposit and Octopus cards need HK$50, but Hu Tong Xing cards will cost 80 yuan. The price of a Hu Tong Xing card is higher than the price of the two cards combined,” a netizen complained.
Border-crossing travelers can use the card for public transportation, shopping in supermarkets and convenience stores, and at participating restaurants in both cities.
A ZTE employee surnamed Yang, who works in Shenzhen and lives in Hong Kong, said yesterday that the card will be particularly good for daily commuters like him.
“I have to cross the border every day,” Yang said. “I can now use one card for commuting in the two cities.”
In another development, Shenzhentong and Octopus cards will combine with Lingnan Tong cards by the end of 2015, for the convenience of cardholders in Pearl River Delta cities and Hong Kong, according to a Shenzhen development plan.
Shenzhentong Co. has issued 15 million cards, which are used for 7 million transactions every day. There are 45,000 businesses and 60,000 point-of-sale terminals that accept Octopus cards in Hong Kong. Daily spending attached to Octopus cards has reached HK$120 million.



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Old September 5th, 2012, 09:23 PM   #377
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Almost every week there are incidents on Shenzhen Metro Line 4. Today another one. what happens ? I don't know. probably the ones responsible also don't know. here is what I found about:

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Shenzhen Metro Longhua Line unexpected incidents cause outage
Nanfang Daily, Sep. 05, 2012 6:18
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Original title: Shenzhen Metro Longhua Line sudden accident causes outage


Shenzhen Metro Longhua Line sudden accident causes outage Nanfang Daily (Reporter / traveling Dengxiang She shadow reports) the afternoon of September 5, 13:37, Shenzhen Metro Longhua Line Children's Palace interval with power failure occurs, leading to the folk music station to Fukuda port Station for train operators services suspended.

Microblogging ride netizens said spark and percussion. Reporters on the scene saw broken glass on a train doors, the staff is repair. The train is estimated to be 19:45 in order to resume operations.

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http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2012-09-05/181825107529.shtml

I wonder why there are much more incidents on this single line (which is in HK custody) than on all the other lines together.
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As already posted above, here the Shenzhen Daily version:

Power failure suspends Longhua trains for 6 hrs


A Longhua Line staff worker directs passengers to a nearby bus station after Metro service on the line was suspended because of a power failure for six hours yesterday afternoon.

A POWER failure paralyzed the Metro’s Longhua Line between Minle and Futian Checkpoint stations for nearly six hours yesterday, affecting thousands of commuters.
The power failure started at 1:37 p.m. near Children’s Palace Station. Service resumed at 7:15 p.m., a release of operator HKMTR Shenzhen Co. said. The company will hold a press conference today.
Shenzhen’s transport commission arranged 150 buses — 25 to 30 at each station — to transport passengers who were stranded at Metro stations.
According to a resident quoted by Shenzhen Economic Daily, passengers on a Longhua Line train at the time of the power failure heard loud “scratching” sounds coming from the train’s sides and saw electric sparks before the train stopped 10 seconds later. Glass was broken on one side of a train door. Passengers crouched down and were afraid to sit on their seats, the resident told the paper.
The company confirmed the incident was caused by a power failure. “The power supply failure forced me to change to the Longgang Line, the Huanzhong Line and then back to the Longhua Line to get home,” a microblogger complained.
The power failure was yesterday’s second disruption on the line. During the morning rush hour, Metro train 401 from Qinghu to Futian Checkpoint suddenly stopped as it was entering the Children’s Palace Station area. Many passengers who were crammed into the crowded train fell to the ground, according to a microblogger. “The train moved quietly, slowly and unstably, and finally stopped at Civic Center Station, where it halted operation,” the blogger said.
Many residents criticized HKMTR Shenzhen Co., as many problems such as delays have occurred since the entire line opened in June 2011. The operator also was criticized for over-crowding, especially during rush hours.
The line operates six trains with four carriages each and carries 250,000 passengers a day, between downtown Shenzhen and Longhua New Area.



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It's interesting how the HK MTR which has been running subways for years before Shenzhen is the line that has the most problems. I'm not sure if the other lines not operated by Hong Kong MTR have similar problems though.
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Depends who runs the power supply and whether the electric company has any back-ups in place. Seems the outage was limited to the MTR only and not the surrounding buildings?
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