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Old October 23rd, 2013, 08:47 AM   #581
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Metro names

THE names of existing Shenzhen Metro lines will be changed into a combination of Arabic numerals and Chinese names, Shenzhen Metro Group recently announced online.
Luobao Line, for example, will become Line 1 Luobao Line. Future lines will be named by Arabic numerals only, in an effort to help passengers remember and identify different lines more easily as 15 Metro lines are built in coming years.

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Old October 23rd, 2013, 07:10 PM   #582
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This is nice, but I just noticed that across the way Hong Kong doesn't number their lines. Are people in Shenzhen having trouble remembering line names?
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Old October 23rd, 2013, 11:00 PM   #583
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That's a smart move.
Numbers are better idea than a real names. It's easier to remember them plus much shorter to write. Take an example of long London metro names comparing to an easy numbers system in Paris.
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Old October 24th, 2013, 02:36 AM   #584
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Metro names

THE names of existing Shenzhen Metro lines will be changed into a combination of Arabic numerals and Chinese names, Shenzhen Metro Group recently announced online.
Luobao Line, for example, will become Line 1 Luobao Line. Future lines will be named by Arabic numerals only, in an effort to help passengers remember and identify different lines more easily as 15 Metro lines are built in coming years.

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I guess the names don't work. They change Line # to names in 2008 and in 2013 they go back. Personally I like having names associated with the lanes, gives the line some character.
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Old October 24th, 2013, 01:51 PM   #585
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All they've gotta do now is remove the "Lu"s from China's subway station names and I'll be happy.
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Old October 24th, 2013, 03:47 PM   #586
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All they've gotta do now is remove the "Lu"s from China's subway station names and I'll be happy.
Lu means road, so it doesn't make any sense removing them.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 01:39 AM   #587
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Old November 18th, 2013, 12:02 AM   #588
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improvement work in progress in Hourui Station for the openning of new airport terminal





transit platform for local bus M416 direct from Hourui Metro Station to Airport (former Terminal 3/new terminal)


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Metro Line 11 entrance in the future


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Old November 22nd, 2013, 09:54 AM   #589
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Land dispute delays Metro project by 1 yr

CONSTRUCTION of Fulin Station on the future Metro Line 7 has been delayed by more than a year because of a land dispute with residents that could affect the schedule for the line’s opening, Shenzhen Metro Co. said Wednesday.
Sixty-seven other stations in the city’s third phase of Metro projects are under way or in planning as scheduled.
Fulin Station is planned for a site west of Futian River and north of Shenzhen River, and will serve future development in the Shenzhen-Hong Kong border river area. The Huanggang border area is west of the site.
Because the project needs to temporarily occupy public space at a nearby housing estate, where many border inspection officers live, it drew strong opposition and protests from residents. The project contractor tried to negotiate with residents dozens of times since last September, but failed.
Video clips provided by Shenzhen Metro show residents pushing down fences, slapping construction workers and chasing them with iron bars.
“The project has been delayed for 16 months and caused a loss of nearly 10 million yuan (US$1.6 million),” the contractor said.
Shenzhen Metro said the government only offers compensation for relocations, so because the Fulin Station project would only temporarily occupy 500 square meters of the housing estates’ public space, residents aren’t eligible for compensation.
To minimize impacts, a Metro design company has reduced the station’s size and promised to restore the occupied area and reinforce buildings near the project after the underground work is completed.
Future lines 7, 9 and 11 — all in the city’s third phase of Metro development — will total about 105 kilometers and are scheduled to open in December 2016.
Line 7 will run between Lishui Road in Xili, Nanshan District, and Tai’an Road in Luohu District. It will link the Xili, Longzhu, Chegongmiao, Huaqiangbei, Sungang, Tianbei and Buxin areas. (Richard Han)

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Old November 27th, 2013, 09:47 PM   #590
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Old December 12th, 2013, 04:54 AM   #591
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Huge spending on Metro projects questioned

DEPUTIES to the Shenzhen Municipal People’s Congress criticized the costs of local Metro projects Monday during a forum on transportation issues, Shenzhen Evening News reported.
Three deputies on the budget planning committee raised concerns about the government’s heavy spending on public transportation from four perspectives: reasonable planning of public transportation, sustainable investment, smooth management and upgrades amid an economic transformation.
Deputy Liu Luyu said government spending has focused overwhelmingly on public transportation, as the yearly budget for rail transportation is about 20 billion yuan (US$3.28 billion).
Deputy Zheng Xuding cited a long list of transportation spending figures.
The city government’s transportation spending totaled 84.9 billion yuan from June 2008 to June 2013, Zheng said, adding that Shenzhen Metro projects have been much more expensive than a comparable project constructed by a Hong Kong company.
Spending on Metro’s 16-km Longhua Line, funded by MTR Hong Kong, totaled 6 billion yuan, or 375 million yuan per kilometer. The first and second phases of Shenzhen’s Metro development included 178 kilometers of rail at a total cost of 100 billion yuan, or 560 million yuan per kilometer.
The budget for the 70-km third phase of Shenzhen’s Metro development amounts to 160 billion yuan, or 940 million yuan per kilometer.
“Why is the cost of the Longhua Line by MTR Hong Kong 370 million yuan per kilometer while costs of Shenzhen’s second and third phases of Metro projects are snowballing?” Zheng asked.
Some government officials responded to that question by saying the Longhua Line cost less because a 10-km section was built above ground, which is much cheaper than building underground. Officials also said the second phase of Metro development had additional costs such as affordable housing along the rail line, supporting public transit facilities around Metro stations and compensations for demolished buildings.
Those answers didn’t convince the deputies.
In a vote on whether the 940-million-yuan cost of the third phase of Metro development is reasonable, not a single deputy raised their hand in support.
Deputy Xiao Youmei said a lesson should be learned from the bankruptcy of Detroit in the United States. She said the heavy investment of 200 billion yuan on Shenzhen’s rail transportation is appalling, and warned that the results of over-budget spending could be disastrous and would unfairly victimize taxpayers.



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Old December 12th, 2013, 05:25 AM   #592
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The bankruptcy of Detroit was caused by overspending on metro projects?
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Old December 12th, 2013, 06:32 AM   #593
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Shenzhen definitely needs more metro lines. They are much overused.
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Old December 12th, 2013, 09:37 AM   #594
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Huge spending on Metro projects questioned

DEPUTIES to the Shenzhen Municipal People’s Congress criticized the costs of local Metro projects Monday during a forum on transportation issues, Shenzhen Evening News reported.
Three deputies on the budget planning committee raised concerns about the government’s heavy spending on public transportation from four perspectives: reasonable planning of public transportation, sustainable investment, smooth management and upgrades amid an economic transformation.
Deputy Liu Luyu said government spending has focused overwhelmingly on public transportation, as the yearly budget for rail transportation is about 20 billion yuan (US$3.28 billion).
Deputy Zheng Xuding cited a long list of transportation spending figures.
The city government’s transportation spending totaled 84.9 billion yuan from June 2008 to June 2013, Zheng said, adding that Shenzhen Metro projects have been much more expensive than a comparable project constructed by a Hong Kong company.
Spending on Metro’s 16-km Longhua Line, funded by MTR Hong Kong, totaled 6 billion yuan, or 375 million yuan per kilometer. The first and second phases of Shenzhen’s Metro development included 178 kilometers of rail at a total cost of 100 billion yuan, or 560 million yuan per kilometer.
The budget for the 70-km third phase of Shenzhen’s Metro development amounts to 160 billion yuan, or 940 million yuan per kilometer.
“Why is the cost of the Longhua Line by MTR Hong Kong 370 million yuan per kilometer while costs of Shenzhen’s second and third phases of Metro projects are snowballing?” Zheng asked.
Some government officials responded to that question by saying the Longhua Line cost less because a 10-km section was built above ground, which is much cheaper than building underground. Officials also said the second phase of Metro development had additional costs such as affordable housing along the rail line, supporting public transit facilities around Metro stations and compensations for demolished buildings.
Those answers didn’t convince the deputies.
In a vote on whether the 940-million-yuan cost of the third phase of Metro development is reasonable, not a single deputy raised their hand in support.
Deputy Xiao Youmei said a lesson should be learned from the bankruptcy of Detroit in the United States. She said the heavy investment of 200 billion yuan on Shenzhen’s rail transportation is appalling, and warned that the results of over-budget spending could be disastrous and would unfairly victimize taxpayers.



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Regardless it raises a good point elevation is the key to reducing costs.
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Old December 12th, 2013, 12:35 PM   #595
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The way I see it, there's no real reason why (at least most of) the Huanzhong line needed to be below ground. Shangshuijing ain't exactly Manhattan in terms of density.
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By the way, this is the map for the planned lines, I don't believe it's been posted here. Didn't realize that Chegongmiao would be the interchange station for four (!) lines.

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Old December 12th, 2013, 03:18 PM   #597
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Shangshuijing - is it the name of Shenzhen CBD?
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Old December 13th, 2013, 05:44 AM   #599
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Shangshuijing is in Longgang, a stop on the Huanzhong line. A couple pages back there was that news article of the subway stop that came out directly into a farmhouse.
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I see. Thanks.
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