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Old January 4th, 2017, 11:04 AM   #921
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70% of all pubic transit trips be on the metro
What's to be the breakdown of the other 30 % between modes:
commuter rail
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Old January 4th, 2017, 02:05 PM   #922
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Shenzhen Metro to have 32 Lines by 2030

Shenzhen Metro masterplan increased from 20 Lines to 32. Total planned network length to reach 1142 km of lines. Network will now consist of 8 Express Lines (think Line 11 and 14) and the rest as local lines. The goal of the expanded metro system is to achieve 45-70-70 as in:

45 minutes commute time between the city center and suburban centers
70% public transport mode share of motorized trips
70% of all pubic transit trips be on the metro

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Notice in this map how Dongguan line 2 was never intended to join line 11. I see there are a couple lines in Dongguan pointing towards Shenzhen, I would make the Western one a line 22 extension.
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Old January 8th, 2017, 10:20 PM   #923
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Is this mind-boggling figure of 1142 km for Shenzhen only or PRD cities on the whole?
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Old January 8th, 2017, 11:34 PM   #924
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The 1142 km figure is for Shenzhen alone. The Pearl River Delta metro is going to be much more massive, the latest Guangzhou plans are well above 1000 km.
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Old January 9th, 2017, 08:48 AM   #925
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The 1142 km figure is for Shenzhen alone. The Pearl River Delta metro is going to be much more massive, the latest Guangzhou plans are well above 1000 km.
Yes I recently a remark posted on another thread. In short it claimed that the existing figures given for Chinese metros both operating and planned were false. The reason given that if the figures were true then the metro systems in China would be equal to or even greater than metros overseas. The author concluded that it was an impossible case to argue so therefore figures and stats relating to metro development in China were frabricated as a ploy by the CPC to create an illusion of metro development when in reality liittle or none exists.

The issue here is the sheer scale of construction is mind boggling , the skeptic or cynic overseas simp[ly can't wrap their mind around it hence question it. Though few in number they are not shy about voicing their skepticism .

THe entire PRD area will have a massive metro system within twenty years if the current rate of construction is mantained.


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Old January 9th, 2017, 02:49 PM   #926
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Yes I recently a remark posted on another thread. In short it claimed that the existing figures given for Chinese metros both operating and planned were false. The reason given that if the figures were true then the metro systems in China would be equal to or even greater than metros overseas. The author concluded that it was an impossible case to argue so therefore figures and stats relating to metro development in China were frabricated as a ploy by the CPC to create an illusion of metro development when in reality liittle or none exists.
And that's implausible. China is too open for tourists to outright fabricate metro systems in operation.

Qualifications may exist, but these would be elsewhere. Care to hear where?
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Old January 10th, 2017, 07:16 AM   #927
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There are a crap-ton of lines planned for all Chinese cities, some of which will be monorails, maglevs, or streetcar/ligh rail instead of a full Metro. They are actually building most of them. The only thing to doubt is that Straddling bus, which is one failed entrepreneur's scam.
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Old January 10th, 2017, 09:41 AM   #928
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The only thing to doubt is that Straddling bus, which is one failed entrepreneur's scam.
Don't forget the extensions of Shanghai Transrapid.
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Old January 20th, 2017, 03:46 AM   #929
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Elevated monorail to be built in Pingshan this year

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An electric monorail system will be built in Pingshan District this year. SD-Agencies

CONSTRUCTION of a long-expected electric monorail will be initiated this year in Pingshan District, connecting the Pingshan High-speed Railway Station to Nan’ao in Dapeng New Area.

The news was announced at a Pingshan-focused panel discussion of the city’s third session of the sixth Shenzhen Municipal People’s Congress that ended Tuesday.

With the electric monorail system and other plans for Metro lines and roads, the public transport system in this newly inaugurated district is expected to be much more convenient.

The first-phase construction of a rail section will be started at the Pingshan High-speed Railway Station and end at Biyadi Road, a road named after the local carmaker BYD, with a total length of 5.4 kilometers.

Though it hasn’t been officially confirmed, there might be four lines for the monorail when it is completed. The four lines are believed to cover most of the key areas and places in Pingshan.

The monorail, developed by BYD, will cover most scenic spots in Dapeng New Area. Dubbed “SkyRail,” the monorail system requires only a sixth of the capital expenditure of a subway system and is cheaper to maintain, the company said, adding that SkyRail will have a delivery capacity of 10,000 to 30,000 passengers one way per hour.

Meanwhile, construction of Metro Lines 14 and 16 has been included in the city’s rail construction plan and will also start this year. Residents of Pingshan will be able to get to the city center via subway in four years’ time.

An express train connecting Pingshan and Futian districts was opened at the beginning of this year. Despite disputes regarding the train fare and the frequency of the trains, the express line saves time for residents traveling between the two districts.

Increasingly convenient transportation will be essential for the area’s future development, as more city-level projects including industrial parks, universities, and hospitals are settling in Pingshan in the next few years.

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Old January 21st, 2017, 10:17 PM   #930
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Old February 15th, 2017, 02:36 PM   #931
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Here is an interesting story for those curious in network usage patterns.

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SZ commuters cover short distance
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February 15, 2017


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COMMUTERS in Shenzhen generally covered a distance of 7.4 kilometers on average from home to office, the third-longest among the four first-tier cities, according to a report of the GPS map service of Tencent.

Statistics show that Beijing commuters covered an average of 9.3 kilometers, which was 1.3 kilometers longer than Shanghai commuters. Guangzhou commuters ranked fourth with the shortest distance of 6.5 kilometers.

Commuters working in the Chegongmiao area in Shenzhen generally covered a distance of 8.1 kilometers, which was the longest distance, followed by commuters working in Shenzhen Hi-Tech Industrial Park in Nanshan District, Futian CBD, and the Caiwuwei area in Luohu District. Nearly half of the commuters working in Chegongmiao lived 5 to 10 kilometers away from their workplace.

The report showed that only 1.8 percent of residents in Shenzhen commuted more than 25 kilometers, 3.2 percent lower than commuters in Beijing. Nearly 49 percent of Shenzhen residents worked within 5 kilometers of their home. Those who lived in Dongguan and Hong Kong had to cover more than 40 kilometers to get to work in downtown Shenzhen.

The opening of Metro lines, especially lines 7 and 9, that link Futian and Nanshan CBDs with the Chegongmiao area has changed the means of commuting. A cab driver, surnamed Li, who has worked in Shenzhen for 10 years, said that ridership had decreased, especially for cross-district rides.

“It is rare to carry cross-district commuters who travel more than 10 kilometers because of the Metro service network,” Li said. Now, most of his customers are traveling short distances of around 3-5 kilometers.

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More news about connecting more of the Pearl River Delta

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Five Metro lines will link SZ, Huizhou
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BESIDES the Ganzhou-Shenzhen High-speed Railway and the Shenzhen-Huizhou inter-city rail line, five Metro lines will also link Shenzhen with Huizhou in the future.

They include extension lines of Shenzhen Metro Lines 14, 16, 21, 8 and 19, according to rail construction plans that are still being finalized, Huizhou’s development and reform bureau said on its official website.

Line 14 will be extended to Huizhou South Railway Station and connected with Metro Line 1 in Huizhou. Work on the project will start after the project is approved by the Central Government, the bureau said, adding that it has been listed in the city’s overall planning and the urban rail transportation plan.

Line 14 runs 50.6 kilometers and has 13 stations on the Shenzhen section, while the Huizhou section will have three stations and cover a distance of 9.1 kilometers.

The two cities have initiated research on an extension of Line 21 to Xinxu Township in Huiyang District, Huizhou City and on an extension of Line 16 to Daya Bay in Huiyang.

Metro Line 21 runs 62.5 kilometers, linking Qianhai in Nanshan District to Pingdi in Longgang District.

The two cities are also considering extending Line 8, which is under construction, and Line 19, which is being planned, to Huizhou.

Shenzhen is embarking on an ambitious drive to expand its Metro system to a total of 32 lines over the next 13 years, outranking Shanghai as the city with the largest subway network in the world.

The expansion is part of efforts to provide a gigantic boost to the city’s industrial upgrade and infrastructure setup, which plays a key role in catering to business and industrial operations, as well as the greater Pearl River Delta region.

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Old March 17th, 2017, 04:15 PM   #933
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With those distances, they will basically be commuter rail.
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So the Shenzhen Metro will have lines connecting to the metros of three other cities? HK, Huizhou & Dongguan. Dongguan Metro will also connect to the Guangzhou Metro which connects to the Foshan Metro.
6 interconnected Metro systems. Are there even plans to get any other region to above 2 interconnected metro systems?

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Huizhou also has an underground railway with metro-style trains and stations opened last year, operated by China Railway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donggu...ercity_Railway
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So the Shenzhen Metro will have lines connecting to the metros of three other cities? HK, Huizhou & Dongguan. Dongguan Metro will also connect to the Guangzhou Metro which connects to the Foshan Metro.
6 interconnected Metro systems. Are there even plans to get any other region to above 2 interconnected metro systems?

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Huizhou is planning a urban rail net of 552 km in 3 stages. However plannings varies.
south of Foshan the next two cities Shunde and Zhongshan haves own plannings some maps shows connections to the border-cities.
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Shunde is a district of Foshan. They have a line U/C all the way to there. Zhongshan is indeed planning its own metro system. I don't know about Zhuhai (the last city before Macau), other than the never-opening tram line.
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What's to be the breakdown of the other 30 % between modes:
commuter rail
streetcar
trolleybus
motor bus?
'Metro' in Shenzhen is the sum-up word for all railway-based transport system...
So commuter rail and streetcar (I'm not familiar with this term. Do you mean tram/light rail?) will be included in the metro system.

There is no trolleybus in Shenzhen and there is no plan for any trolley bus system in Shenzhen.

The other 30% will be pretty much shared between Taxi and Bus.
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Don't forget the extensions of Shanghai Transrapid.
Not sure if you are aware but the Shanghai Maglev Train is planned to be demolished.
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Shunde is a district of Foshan. They have a line U/C all the way to there. Zhongshan is indeed planning its own metro system. I don't know about Zhuhai (the last city before Macau), other than the never-opening tram line.
Which metro line goes out to Shunde? How far along is the construction process?
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